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by Bev-MI

Sep 23, 2010

Teacher supplies and resources at Student Teacher prices! Just retired and need to share my collection of books, bulletin board decorations, notepads, student literature, etc. Materials cover 2-6th grade. E-mail for more info or with specific requests. Thanks.

Alvina C hristian On 9/23/10, Bev-MI wrote: > Teacher supplies and resources at Student Teacher prices! > Just retired and need to share my collection of books, > bulletin board decorations, notepads, student literature, > etc. Materials cover 2-6th grade. E-mail for more info or > with specific requests. Thanks.

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Sep 29, 2010

Advice for Student Teachers

by A Cooperating Teacher

Sep 23, 2010

I have my first student teacher this year, and, unfortunately, I am unimpressed. A few words of advice:

1. Ask questions. Especially when I ask, "Do you have any questions?" There is so much to learn, and there has to be something, at least ONE thing you have a question about or need to know more about. I think in three weeks he has asked...See MoreI have my first student teacher this year, and, unfortunately, I am unimpressed. A few words of advice:

1. Ask questions. Especially when I ask, "Do you have any questions?" There is so much to learn, and there has to be something, at least ONE thing you have a question about or need to know more about. I think in three weeks he has asked maybe one or two questions.

2. Get to know those you will be working with. My ST has never initiated a conversation with me, not even to say hello. I went to lunch with him during workshop week and, as we ate, asked a few basic getting-to-know-you questions, such as "Where are you from? How was your summer? Did you do anything fun?" He succinctly answered my questions and then just sit there. He never asked me a single questions in response.

3. Take the initiative. He doesn't do anything unless I give him explicit directions. Don't be afraid to offer to hand out papers, grade assignments, or make copies. Take attendance. Walk around the room and help out students as they work independently.

4. Become familiar with the curriculum. Ask for a copy of the textbook. Do the readings the students are assigned. Look at the handouts.

And, if your cooperating teacher is gone the first two days of the week on a conference, and she assigns a vocabulary assignment that needs to be graded and handed back to the students by the third day so they can complete the review, and you've graded the same type of assignment before, it would be a fantastic idea if you helped out your cooperating teacher by, oh, I don't know, grading the assignment! It may not be required, but I would be infinitely grateful if you helped me out once in a while.

I know there are many of you student teachers out there who are doing a fantastic job, many of you going above and beyond what is required of you. Some of you have taken over classes on your first few days. You have enthusiasm and you work hard. You are doing an excellent job and I applaud you.

I think I just need to vent a little about my situation. I am working with my student teacher, giving him feedback and encouraging him, but sometimes I want to scream, "Don't just sit there! Do something!" Because, honestly, he would just sit there until I gave him directions. I'm sick of having to tell him every little thing every single time.

*sigh* Thanks for listening.

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Depressed Thanks Judy! I am working part time as a teacher tutor. I have never had anyone say anything bad about my performance and I give everything I have everyday to my students. However, after three years of tutoring I have not gotten a full-time job. Sometimes, I feel as though the full-time classroom teachers look down on me because I am just a tutor. ...See MoreThanks Judy! I am working part time as a teacher tutor. I have never had anyone say anything bad about my performance and I give everything I have everyday to my students. However, after three years of tutoring I have not gotten a full-time job. Sometimes, I feel as though the full-time classroom teachers look down on me because I am just a tutor. I wonder if they think that I must be a bad teacher because I have not gotten a full-time job yet which in turn makes them not want to consider me when the full-time jobs open and it turns into a viscious cycle. Do you think that could be true?

On 7/15/11, Judy2/CA wrote: > I doubt your coop teacher had anything to do with who was > hired for the open position. Don't blame her or yourself. > It doesn't mean that you didn't do a great job. We have > many teachers in our district who are working part-time as > teacher tutors and they generally get full-time positions > as they occur. Teachers who have completed a number of long > term sub jobs often get hired full-time also. I've only > known one student teacher who was hired at our school and > that was a long time ago when there was actually a teacher > shortage due to class size reduction. > > > > On 7/13/11, rejected wrote: >> What sort of things did your student teacher do that >> she was then hired at >> your school? I loved my cooperating teacher and thought >> she liked me too but when there was an opening for her >> teaching partner, I didn't get it. I was heartbroken. >> It was kind of a strange situation because the position >> opened up in the middle of the year and was never >> officially posted but I had turned in my resume to the >> principal in case they ever had openings. My >> cooperating teacher had always told me that I was a >> great teacher but maybe she was just saying that... I >> wish I knew what I did wrong. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/08/11, Mrs. Mikesell wrote: >>> I couldn't help but jump in... >>> >>> I have had three student teachers. >>> >>> Two were fantastic - dreamy. One is actually my >>> co-teacher now. >>> >>> One did not work out. They were asked to leave my >>> school due to actually combative behavior. Whoa. >>> >>> Each person is different. You have to build a >>> relationship. You're basically with this person from >>> sun up to sun down for 1/2 a year! >>> >>> I've never gotten paid for having a student teacher - >>> yet, I'm still begging to get more because I know >>> that I can learn as much from them as they can from >>> me. >>> >>> Sometimes I think people forget that student teachers >>> are just like our elementary students - you have to >>> model, model, model and practice, practice, practice >>> and talk, talk, talk! >>> >>> Kelly :)

Aug 6, 2011

Judy2/CA We have teacher tutors in our district also. It can be a way to get into a classroom full-time (one of our teacher tutors was hired this year when a new primary class had to be opened) but there is so little hiring going on here that it doesn't always seem to work out that way. I know that nobody at my school looks down on the teacher tutors. The e...See MoreWe have teacher tutors in our district also. It can be a way to get into a classroom full-time (one of our teacher tutors was hired this year when a new primary class had to be opened) but there is so little hiring going on here that it doesn't always seem to work out that way. I know that nobody at my school looks down on the teacher tutors. The economy has made it an uncertain time to retire so you don't have many of those classrooms opening up plus we live in a very desirable area so teachers don't leave for a different area. Does the district office know that you are looking for a full-time job? Have you met the hiring director personally? Schmoozing is sometimes necessary to get noticed.

On 8/06/11, Depressed wrote: > Thanks Judy! I am working part time as a teacher tutor. I have > never had anyone say anything bad about my performance and I > give everything I have everyday to my students. However, after > three years of tutoring I have not gotten a full-time job. > Sometimes, I feel as though the full-time classroom teachers > look down on me because I am just a tutor. I wonder if they > think that I must be a bad teacher because I have not gotten a > full-time job yet which in turn makes them not want to consider > me when the full-time jobs open and it turns into a viscious > cycle. Do you think that could be true? > > > On 7/15/11, Judy2/CA wrote: >> I doubt your coop teacher had anything to do with who was >> hired for the open position. Don't blame her or yourself. >> It doesn't mean that you didn't do a great job. We have >> many teachers in our district who are working part-time as >> teacher tutors and they generally get full-time positions >> as they occur. Teachers who have completed a number of long >> term sub jobs often get hired full-time also. I've only >> known one student teacher who was hired at our school and >> that was a long time ago when there was actually a teacher >> shortage due to class size reduction. >> >> >> >> On 7/13/11, rejected wrote: >>> What sort of things did your student teacher do that >>> she was then hired at >>> your school? I loved my cooperating teacher and thought >>> she liked me too but when there was an opening for her >>> teaching partner, I didn't get it. I was heartbroken. >>> It was kind of a strange situation because the position >>> opened up in the middle of the year and was never >>> officially posted but I had turned in my resume to the >>> principal in case they ever had openings. My >>> cooperating teacher had always told me that I was a >>> great teacher but maybe she was just saying that... I >>> wish I knew what I did wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/08/11, Mrs. Mikesell wrote: >>>> I couldn't help but jump in... >>>> >>>> I have had three student teachers. >>>> >>>> Two were fantastic - dreamy. One is actually my >>>> co-teacher now. >>>> >>>> One did not work out. They were asked to leave my >>>> school due to actually combative behavior. Whoa. >>>> >>>> Each person is different. You have to build a >>>> relationship. You're basically with this person from >>>> sun up to sun down for 1/2 a year! >>>> >>>> I've never gotten paid for having a student teacher - >>>> yet, I'm still begging to get more because I know >>>> that I can learn as much from them as they can from >>>> me. >>>> >>>> Sometimes I think people forget that student teachers >>>> are just like our elementary students - you have to >>>> model, model, model and practice, practice, practice >>>> and talk, talk, talk! >>>> >>>> Kelly :)

Aug 13, 2011

Why is it so bad? And what can be done?

by Catsister

Sep 28, 2010

I also had a horrid experience, and this was back in the Compuserve days! I had no other stories of mean CT's. Fortunately, I was backed up by my college (they were annoyed when she demanded to read the "Private diary" section of my ST looseleaf and demanded I take out anything negative about her.) I got my revenge when I didn't invite her to the d...See MoreI also had a horrid experience, and this was back in the Compuserve days! I had no other stories of mean CT's. Fortunately, I was backed up by my college (they were annoyed when she demanded to read the "Private diary" section of my ST looseleaf and demanded I take out anything negative about her.) I got my revenge when I didn't invite her to the dinner at the end of the year. Fifteen years later, she wouldn't say "hello" to me when I had an interview at the school. To this day, if I see her around town, I feel sick.

So I guess the bigger question is: why does ST go wrong so often? My hypotheses: 1. Conflicting expectations. ST wants a mentor, CT wants a personal assistant, and many women (usually) attack personal assistants when they can't please them perfectly enough.

2. College ed depts. and real schools have very different ideas about teaching. I heard nothing but brainstorming, coop learning, etc. for years n grad school--but none of this existed at this time in the real world. My CT did nothing but make the kids copy overheads. Creativity was not welcome.

3. No interview process. There's no attempt to match anyone with someone they'd be compatible with. Even if my CT's nickname weren't "The Bitch," we would not be a good match.

4. Discipline. Kids know the ST is temporary, and will not take discipline from them like they will a "real" teacher. Little kids may not know the difference, but by middle school or high school--fugetaboutit! Even if she is well- meaning, an ST does not have classroom management experience and will experience problems. It's inevitable, unless you're in a class of angels. A good CT will understand that some problems will occur and not overdramatize them. A bad one will make a federal case out of every bad kid.

5. Control. A ST will not have any say over grading policies and even some assignments. You're forced to do stuff you wouldn't do otherwise.

I was swamped when my CT made me grade every little thing. When I was a real teacher, I cut down on the assignments and never graded homework. I almost broke down from all the grading. Also, I had an incident where I had to take the kids outside to do ecology projects. While I was there, one girl started smoking, one flirted with some guy and a deranged kid who was cutting class started screaming at me, saying I had a fat ass. The smoking/ flirting/derangement never would have happened with their regular teacher, who everyone feared. I never would have taken the kids out of the building, though.

Denise I laughed out loud at your horror story about taking the kids outside for a lab! I'm sure you laugh at it now, too, but I'm sure it wasn't so funny at the time!

I agree with just about everything that you said. I forgot that I had to use a curriculum that she had written, i.e. worksheets, readings, etc. but I was to create new lesson plan...See MoreI laughed out loud at your horror story about taking the kids outside for a lab! I'm sure you laugh at it now, too, but I'm sure it wasn't so funny at the time!

I agree with just about everything that you said. I forgot that I had to use a curriculum that she had written, i.e. worksheets, readings, etc. but I was to create new lesson plans that incorporated them. This was nearly impossible as I did not understand how she wanted them taught. I had to have lesson plans in two weeks ahead, and I had 3 preps. She would go over my plans each Tuesday, the same day she knew I had 5 hours of class following school, and would expect the rewritten plans the next day. I don't know how I did it. She would rarely say my ideas were poor, but she couldn't just say, "Hey, I think you are on to something here!" So she would pick out a word choice and demand I change it. Just enough to remind me who was in charge.

I know that many teachers are fantastic mentors. I just wish that mine would have been more patient with me. As I began, she told me she expected me to take on one class each week, but by my 2nd week, she pushed me to teach all day. It's definitely better being a teacher!

On 9/28/10, Catsister wrote: > I also had a horrid experience, and this was back in the > Compuserve days! I had no other stories of mean CT's. > Fortunately, I was backed up by my college (they were > annoyed when she demanded to read the "Private diary" > section of my ST looseleaf and demanded I take out anything > negative about her.) I got my revenge when I didn't invite > her to the dinner at the end of the year. Fifteen years > later, she wouldn't say "hello" to me when I had an > interview at the school. To this day, if I see her around > town, I feel sick. > > So I guess the bigger question is: why does ST go wrong so > often? My hypotheses: 1. Conflicting expectations. ST wants > a mentor, CT wants a personal assistant, and many women > (usually) attack personal assistants when they can't please > them perfectly enough. > > 2. College ed depts. and real schools have very different > ideas about teaching. I heard nothing but brainstorming, > coop learning, etc. for years n grad school--but none of > this existed at this time in the real world. My CT did > nothing but make the kids copy overheads. Creativity was > not welcome. > > 3. No interview process. There's no attempt to match anyone > with someone they'd be compatible with. Even if my CT's > nickname weren't "The Bitch," we would not be a good match. > > 4. Discipline. Kids know the ST is temporary, and will not > take discipline from them like they will a "real" teacher. > Little kids may not know the difference, but by middle > school or high school--fugetaboutit! Even if she is well- > meaning, an ST does not have classroom management > experience and will experience problems. It's inevitable, > unless you're in a class of angels. A good CT will > understand that some problems will occur and not > overdramatize them. A bad one will make a federal case out > of every bad kid. > > 5. Control. A ST will not have any say over grading > policies and even some assignments. You're forced to do > stuff you wouldn't do otherwise. > > I was swamped when my CT made me grade every little thing. > When I was a real teacher, I cut down on the assignments > and never graded homework. I almost broke down from all the > grading. Also, I had an incident where I had to take the > kids outside to do ecology projects. While I was there, one > girl started smoking, one flirted with some guy and a > deranged kid who was cutting class started screaming at me, > saying I had a fat ass. The smoking/ flirting/derangement > never would have happened with their regular teacher, who > everyone feared. I never would have taken the kids out of > the building, though.

Sep 28, 2010

MM On my fourth time out (5 outings each 2 weeks over the 8 months degree course) the host teacher said, "Why do they send me such people?" when the door closed and the principal left me with her. She spent minimal time with me, gave me constructive (but not overly negative) feedback when warranted and gave me an outstanding rating. She told me she wa...See MoreOn my fourth time out (5 outings each 2 weeks over the 8 months degree course) the host teacher said, "Why do they send me such people?" when the door closed and the principal left me with her. She spent minimal time with me, gave me constructive (but not overly negative) feedback when warranted and gave me an outstanding rating. She told me she was amazed by my organization and how I juggled her myriad of subjects (business in those days had shorthand, typing, office practice, organization and management, etc.). But I found that atmosphere stressful. Unlike the two placements where the teachers were so grateful to get a student teacher they hugged me the minute they saw me. I guess some of these people are pressured by their heads and principals to take students. Anyways, one of my friends had to pick up the mail and coffee for her host teacher each morning! And this host teacher was a department head! She also went on to train teachers in our district and at the local university. She would get the student teacher teaching almost on the second day and then abscond to work on her Master's degree and other projects necessary for her promotion. This is not unusual. You have folks taking student teachers as if they're to relieve them while they do course work. And I've often heard kids say (they said it decades ago too when I was a student) that it was the only time they actually got some real teaching and one-on-one help. Sometimes the planned placements are in short supply, some fall through, some are bad because other training institutions have creamed off better prospects.

On 9/28/10, Denise wrote: > > > > I laughed out loud at your horror story about taking the kids > outside for a lab! I'm sure you laugh at it now, too, but I'm > sure it wasn't so funny at the time! > > I agree with just about everything that you said. I forgot > that I had to use a curriculum that she had written, i.e. > worksheets, readings, etc. but I was to create new lesson plans > that incorporated them. This was nearly impossible as I did > not understand how she wanted them taught. I had to have > lesson plans in two weeks ahead, and I had 3 preps. She would > go over my plans each Tuesday, the same day she knew I had 5 > hours of class following school, and would expect the rewritten > plans the next day. I don't know how I did it. She would > rarely say my ideas were poor, but she couldn't just say, "Hey, > I think you are on to something here!" So she would pick out a > word choice and demand I change it. Just enough to remind me > who was in charge. > > I know that many teachers are fantastic mentors. I just wish > that mine would have been more patient with me. As I began, > she told me she expected me to take on one class each week, but > by my 2nd week, she pushed me to teach all day. It's > definitely better being a teacher! > > > > > > > > > On 9/28/10, Catsister wrote: >> I also had a horrid experience, and this was back in the >> Compuserve days! I had no other stories of mean CT's. >> Fortunately, I was backed up by my college (they were >> annoyed when she demanded to read the "Private diary" >> section of my ST looseleaf and demanded I take out anything >> negative about her.) I got my revenge when I didn't invite >> her to the dinner at the end of the year. Fifteen years >> later, she wouldn't say "hello" to me when I had an >> interview at the school. To this day, if I see her around >> town, I feel sick. >> >> So I guess the bigger question is: why does ST go wrong so >> often? My hypotheses: 1. Conflicting expectations. ST wants >> a mentor, CT wants a personal assistant, and many women >> (usually) attack personal assistants when they can't please >> them perfectly enough. >> >> 2. College ed depts. and real schools have very different >> ideas about teaching. I heard nothing but brainstorming, >> coop learning, etc. for years n grad school--but none of >> this existed at this time in the real world. My CT did >> nothing but make the kids copy overheads. Creativity was >> not welcome. >> >> 3. No interview process. There's no attempt to match anyone >> with someone they'd be compatible with. Even if my CT's >> nickname weren't "The Bitch," we would not be a good match. >> >> 4. Discipline. Kids know the ST is temporary, and will not >> take discipline from them like they will a "real" teacher. >> Little kids may not know the difference, but by middle >> school or high school--fugetaboutit! Even if she is well- >> meaning, an ST does not have classroom management >> experience and will experience problems. It's inevitable, >> unless you're in a class of angels. A good CT will >> understand that some problems will occur and not >> overdramatize them. A bad one will make a federal case out >> of every bad kid. >> >> 5. Control. A ST will not have any say over grading >> policies and even some assignments. You're forced to do >> stuff you wouldn't do otherwise. >> >> I was swamped when my CT made me grade every little thing. >> When I was a real teacher, I cut down on the assignments >> and never graded homework. I almost broke down from all the >> grading. Also, I had an incident where I had to take the >> kids outside to do ecology projects. While I was there, one >> girl started smoking, one flirted with some guy and a >> deranged kid who was cutting class started screaming at me, >> saying I had a fat ass. The smoking/ flirting/derangement >> never would have happened with their regular teacher, who >> everyone feared. I never would have taken the kids out of >> the building, though.

Oct 7, 2010

Book that every student teacher must have

by Margret Jackson

Oct 13, 2010

Hello New Teachers, Are you struggling with behavior problems? If so, read on. You should get the book called Secrets of Classroom Behavior Management. By Mamie Jefferson-Hill sold on Amazon.com

Please email me and let me know how much the book helped you. It's only $10.00

Sincerely,

Margret

PedagoNet You can also find other great books on behavior management at the link belo

Oct 16, 2010

by Mary

Oct 18, 2010

Has anyone here taken the PACT test in Texas? All advice on how to prepare for this will be appreciated. Experienced folks kindly respond. Thank you :)

Student Teaching

by susan

Oct 18, 2010

Hi, I am attending college to become an elementary school teacher. My question is i have to support myself and work full time while attending school. I work in the evening and attend school in the mornings. My question is I am going to have to work full time and do the student teaching. Is this even possible? Or should I give up now? Thanks. Any ad...See More

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How about applying for position now? How about applying for a provisional position now as only have student teaching left? Could apply as early as December for Spring this year or January for Fall of next year? Student teaching is waived if you get hired, you merely are observed and it is counted. Also, advantage is you don't have to use student teaching evaluations to qualify for fut...See More

Oct 21, 2010

realist 1) Look into geting student insurance and remember.. health care reform passed so you might be better off than you think you are.

2) You won't get hired without student teaching and get it waived-- period. Don't waste time trying.. you won't even get an interview, especially now.

3) No you can't work full time. If kids are there f...See More

Oct 22, 2010

NEW TEACHER: Introduction Letter to Students/and or Parent

by JRivera

Oct 19, 2010

I'm in an alternative certification program. I just took the classroom management course from Harry Wong. I'm stuck on writing an introduction letter to students and parents. This would be my first year as a teacher. How do I write a letter that does not scare them away?

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Leah I would make it short and sweet. "I am looking forward to teaching your child, and discovering the way he/she learns best. During my classroom experience I was amazed to see the growth the students made." Show you enthusiasm, energy and interest in their child and you will do fine. Many parents like having their child in a classroom with a new, en...See More

Nov 27, 2010

Karen Gani On 10/19/10, JRivera wrote: > I'm in an alternative certification program. I just took > the classroom management course from Harry Wong. I'm stuck > on writing an introduction letter to students and parents. > This would be my first year as a teacher. How do I write a > letter that does not scare them away?

Hi there I am al...See More

Nov 3, 2011

re: student teaching.

by depends on the location.

Oct 23, 2010

Getting hired for a provisional also can depend on the location someone is in. Some of the adminstrators do hire provisional if there is an area of need, for example: special ed., spanish, science math or ESL. Have met teachers who are provisional. True, it is hard to get one of these but occasionally it does happen. But probably more realistic to ...See More

What My Sis Was Advised in 1972. (Cringe!) (Chuckle!)

by MM

Oct 24, 2010

A 'bible' of books was given to new teachers. It was called "The First Few Frantic Weeks" It was actually written in the early 1960s. I was a junior in high school at the time and I remember thinking I'd stumbled on to some war plans that all teachers used. Anyway, if anyone is doing a paper on how classroom management has changed, this is one to c...See More

Twitter for Student-Teachers, Interns, Aspiring Teachers

by Jennifer

Oct 26, 2010

Hey!!!

I am currently interning at a high school in Florida, and will be graduating in May 2011. I started a twitter for people like us, aspiring to be teachers. Please follow me at: [link removed].

Look forward to tweeting with you!

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