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How to study subject content for Texes EC-6

by Christina

Jan 10, 2011

Hi all,

Can someone please give me some advice on how best to study for the subject content, especially math, science, and history? It's been a few years since I left high school, and I studied in a different country, so I am finding it hard to catch up.

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Help! Where should I student teach?

by Erin

Jan 10, 2011

Hi everyone. I am currently finishing my masters degree in Elementary Education at the University of Phoenix. I really wanted to student teach at the Boston Public Schools but it doesn't look like they work with anyone but students from BC. Any suggestions on other good school districts I should apply to student teach at?

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Hired after student teaching

by CS

Jan 13, 2011

What are the chances of being hired after student teaching (either in the same school or somewhere else)? I will student teach in the fall & I feel that may be the better way to get my foot in the door instead of applying for positions a 100 other people are possibly applying for.

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to Emily So, you are still learning about school politics. Just because you put in time in a school doesn't mean you are the person they are looking for to do a particular job. Your CT probably had no idea, as Chloe said, interviewing, hiring etc. isn't usually handled by classroom teachers.

Socializing with your CT, shopping, visiting, etc. doesn'...See MoreSo, you are still learning about school politics. Just because you put in time in a school doesn't mean you are the person they are looking for to do a particular job. Your CT probably had no idea, as Chloe said, interviewing, hiring etc. isn't usually handled by classroom teachers.

Socializing with your CT, shopping, visiting, etc. doesn't qualify you for a job either.

Many student teachers look to their CT and the school they student teach in as a path into that particular school and it just doesn't work that way. There are many things considered in hiring a new teacher. Some legitimate, filling the position with a transfer teacher from another school for example and some not so legitiamte, as in the super's niece just graduated and needs a job.

Figure out what makes you a stronger candidate for a position than just your CT's recommendation, you can't rely on that. Then go and do or take care of those things.

On 2/03/11, Emily wrote: > Thanks for your support. > > The thing is that my cooperating teacher gave me wonderful reviews > and told me I was meant to be a teacher. She went so far as to > invite me to her house for Christmas with her family and we used to > go shopping all the time, clothes shopping and shopping for school > stuff. I thought we were really close and counted her as a close > friend and mentor, she is 20 years older than I am. > > But, when there was an opening for a teacher who would be her > teammate I did not so much as get an interview. Now, we hardly > talk. I feel like I lost a close friend as well as a job > opportunity. > > > > > > > On 1/24/11, To Emily wrote: >> That is wild, I am not surprised they are so funny. That is what >> I am seeing, that many of the new teachers hired are brand 'new' >> teachers. I also think and feel it doesn't help to sub but >> hurts one as it is too easy to be labeled as a sub. While it >> works for some, don't think it does for most. And regarding the >> sub blogg on this site, that consist of subs mostly who just sub >> period and very few are looking for permanent work. There are a >> few who have licenses and are acquiring them, but they are not >> in their own classrooms. Long Term doesnt count, no contract, >> its not one's own class. Most who blogg just sub for extra >> money or sound like they are older. >> >> Regarding student teaching, how common is it that everybody is >> given a recommendation letter from the CT? And or is it common >> sometimes also for the ST to be passed but the CT still not >> support the ST? What if you get a real toughee, scarget type >> like in the Geico comercial (guy calls his patient, Mamby Pamby, >> cry baby etc) I see a lot of complaints on the bloggs about the >> cooperating teachers passing but being mean, but also see some >> who are so happy and get great people. I think it's '50 to 50 >> ratio', in other words I think some have good experiences, get >> good refs. and a lot of others get passed but poor or no refs. >> I also think the colleges keep it low profile when their >> students get a bad experience, they have to protect their >> relationship with the district because that is their living and >> without the districts, they would not be able to place their >> teachers and it is practical and makes sense. >> >> In short,I believe it is popular to have a student teacher now >> mostly because the budget cuts have removed the aids and I think >> that many CT's dont' truly desire a ST, but need an assistant >> especially with the higher class loads. That is fine if they >> want to help, but if they don't help, they really hurt the >> person they took on. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/20/11, Emily wrote: >>> I student taught in a wonderful elementary school and loved >>> it. My cooperating teacher gave me great reviews and told me I >>> was ment to be a teacher. Not only that, her teammate who >>> taught next door, and is on the interview committee and >>> several of the other teachers were constantly complimenting me >>> on my teaching skills and ability to work well with young >>> children. A few years later when they had a rare opening at >>> the school teaching with the same teacher who was my >>> cooperating teacher, it was like I had never done anything. I >>> had been subbing and working as a tutor in the same district >>> and sometimes same school where I had student taught. When I >>> heard about the opening, I immedieately applied. But, I never >>> got so much as an interview. Some girl who had never done >>> anything at the school before was hired. I didn't even recieve >>> a rejection letter. My former cooperating teacher just looked >>> at my blankly when I politely asked what happened. Maybe, I >>> misunderstood all her compliments. But, I think I should have >>> at least have been able to interview and recieve a rejection >>> letter if not chosen. But, perhaps you will have a better >>> chance. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/13/11, CS wrote: >>>> What are the chances of being hired after student teaching >>>> (either in the same school or somewhere else)? I will >>>> student teach in the fall & I feel that may be the better >>>> way to get my foot in the door instead of applying for >>>> positions a 100 other people are possibly applying for. >>>>

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Old Teach Emily- The fact is, while your CT and/or her friend may have been on the interview committee, they probably were not in on the selection process, that is, the culling through the many applications which were undoubtedly received. Usually an administrator does that. This is the way the process works: First, the people involved ( usually administrato...See MoreEmily- The fact is, while your CT and/or her friend may have been on the interview committee, they probably were not in on the selection process, that is, the culling through the many applications which were undoubtedly received. Usually an administrator does that. This is the way the process works: First, the people involved ( usually administrators) decide what qualities they are looking for in a candidate. The applications are gone through and sorted into "yes" maybe" and "No " piles based on those criteria. The next step is usually a review of college transcripts and letters of reference. The selectors might be looking for certain strengths in specific areas. They might have decided that only those with experience will be considered. Of course, in these economic times, sometimes the opposite is true- they are looking for new and "cheap" teachers! Then the applicants are winnowed down into five or six people to call for interview. Then the interview committee is selected and the interview questions decided upon. All candidates must be asked the same questions. Does your having student taught in that school give you an edge? Yes, but not that much. It might be the deciding factor if it came down to you or another candidate, (" the devil you know" principle") , but that's all. I understand that not even being granted an interview was disappointing to you, but there must have been something they were looking for that you lacked or something in your app packet that threw up red flags. I used to stress to student teachers how important that app package is. Review yours and make sure it is perfect- no typos, grammatical errors, etc. , contains a strong personal philosophy statement, etc.

Your not being called for interview was undoubtedly not your CT's fault, so please give her a break :)

On 2/04/11, to Emily wrote: > So, you are still learning about school politics. Just because you put > in time in a school doesn't mean you are the person they are looking > for to do a particular job. Your CT probably had no idea, as Chloe > said, interviewing, hiring etc. isn't usually handled by classroom > teachers. > > Socializing with your CT, shopping, visiting, etc. doesn't qualify you > for a job either. > > Many student teachers look to their CT and the school they student > teach in as a path into that particular school and it just doesn't work > that way. There are many things considered in hiring a new teacher. > Some legitimate, filling the position with a transfer teacher from > another school for example and some not so legitiamte, as in the > super's niece just graduated and needs a job. > > Figure out what makes you a stronger candidate for a position than just > your CT's recommendation, you can't rely on that. Then go and do or > take care of those things. > > > On 2/03/11, Emily wrote: >> Thanks for your support. >> >> The thing is that my cooperating teacher gave me wonderful reviews >> and told me I was meant to be a teacher. She went so far as to >> invite me to her house for Christmas with her family and we used to >> go shopping all the time, clothes shopping and shopping for school >> stuff. I thought we were really close and counted her as a close >> friend and mentor, she is 20 years older than I am. >> >> But, when there was an opening for a teacher who would be her >> teammate I did not so much as get an interview. Now, we hardly >> talk. I feel like I lost a close friend as well as a job >> opportunity. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/24/11, To Emily wrote: >>> That is wild, I am not surprised they are so funny. That is what >>> I am seeing, that many of the new teachers hired are brand 'new' >>> teachers. I also think and feel it doesn't help to sub but >>> hurts one as it is too easy to be labeled as a sub. While it >>> works for some, don't think it does for most. And regarding the >>> sub blogg on this site, that consist of subs mostly who just sub >>> period and very few are looking for permanent work. There are a >>> few who have licenses and are acquiring them, but they are not >>> in their own classrooms. Long Term doesnt count, no contract, >>> its not one's own class. Most who blogg just sub for extra >>> money or sound like they are older. >>> >>> Regarding student teaching, how common is it that everybody is >>> given a recommendation letter from the CT? And or is it common >>> sometimes also for the ST to be passed but the CT still not >>> support the ST? What if you get a real toughee, scarget type >>> like in the Geico comercial (guy calls his patient, Mamby Pamby, >>> cry baby etc) I see a lot of complaints on the bloggs about the >>> cooperating teachers passing but being mean, but also see some >>> who are so happy and get great people. I think it's '50 to 50 >>> ratio', in other words I think some have good experiences, get >>> good refs. and a lot of others get passed but poor or no refs. >>> I also think the colleges keep it low profile when their >>> students get a bad experience, they have to protect their >>> relationship with the district because that is their living and >>> without the districts, they would not be able to place their >>> teachers and it is practical and makes sense. >>> >>> In short,I believe it is popular to have a student teacher now >>> mostly because the budget cuts have removed the aids and I think >>> that many CT's dont' truly desire a ST, but need an assistant >>> especially with the higher class loads. That is fine if they >>> want to help, but if they don't help, they really hurt the >>> person they took on. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/20/11, Emily wrote: >>>> I student taught in a wonderful elementary school and loved >>>> it. My cooperating teacher gave me great reviews and told me I >>>> was ment to be a teacher. Not only that, her teammate who >>>> taught next door, and is on the interview committee and >>>> several of the other teachers were constantly complimenting me >>>> on my teaching skills and ability to work well with young >>>> children. A few years later when they had a rare opening at >>>> the school teaching with the same teacher who was my >>>> cooperating teacher, it was like I had never done anything. I >>>> had been subbing and working as a tutor in the same district >>>> and sometimes same school where I had student taught. When I >>>> heard about the opening, I immedieately applied. But, I never >>>> got so much as an interview. Some girl who had never done >>>> anything at the school before was hired. I didn't even recieve >>>> a rejection letter. My former cooperating teacher just looked >>>> at my blankly when I politely asked what happened. Maybe, I >>>> misunderstood all her compliments. But, I think I should have >>>> at least have been able to interview and recieve a rejection >>>> letter if not chosen. But, perhaps you will have a better >>>> chance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/13/11, CS wrote: >>>>> What are the chances of being hired after student teaching >>>>> (either in the same school or somewhere else)? I will >>>>> student teach in the fall & I feel that may be the better >>>>> way to get my foot in the door instead of applying for >>>>> positions a 100 other people are possibly applying for. >>>>>

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Can't bring myself to do it

by Buster

Jan 16, 2011

I just finished my student teaching last month. Each day of the experience felt like the new worst day of my life. I have wanted to be a high school English teacher for years, and have racked up a sizable student loan debt getting to this point in the journey, but after my student teaching, I don't want to get a job teaching. Is there anything anyo...See MoreI just finished my student teaching last month. Each day of the experience felt like the new worst day of my life. I have wanted to be a high school English teacher for years, and have racked up a sizable student loan debt getting to this point in the journey, but after my student teaching, I don't want to get a job teaching. Is there anything anyone can say to help me get my passion back? Has anyone overcome this?

Here's the story (I'll try to keep it brief):

My CoOp teacher seemed way to busy to work with me on anything throughout the semester. She was a veteran of 17 years, head of the English dept. and union rep for the district. We had barely any communication because she was always talking to other people about department stuff and union stuff...literally every moment of every day. I don't know how she could find time to teach, let alone train a student teacher.

I would try to make her plan time to visit with me, but usually something came up. The conversations I did get with her were short and I often needed to ask the same questions again later, which annoyed her, but I obviously wasn't getting something. I felt unprepared for every moment of every day.

I often stayed up 'til 2AM figuring out the details of the next day and got up at 5 so I could be there by 7. I hope to God this isn't normal. At no point was I able to plan ahead more than a day or two - my coop teacher made it very clear that she was dissapointed in my inability to do this, but rather than help me get there, she made a long-term general plan for me (I wanted to have her walk me through it or something that involved ME). Many times, she would see that a lesson I wrote was not right, or didn't fit what she needed me to do, and she would scrap it as I began to teach it and tell me to do something else...in front of the students!

My supervisor said she was just using me for free labor so she could tend to her union stuff. He was pretty upset with her, and it was all he could do to convince her that she should pass me. We all agreed that I had some things I definitely need to continue working on, but it's nothing that I can't work out on the job (classroom mgmt stuff, projecting my voice, classroom awareness, etc.)

Everyone tells me I'll make a great teacher (except the CoOp) someday, but to be honest, I can't bring myself to apply for a job. I still feel like I would be completely unprepared for each day. In my ST experience, I often finished up 15 minutes earlier than I planned and had nothing else to give the kids to do. This is where an experienced teacher could have come up with something or had something they use all the time, but I don't have that. I just had to let them chat or read or whatever until the bell rang. The CoOp wanted to kill me for it, but I didn't know what else to do.

Anyway, sorry to rant. I just need help getting back my passion to do this. I need good resources to help me fix my issues and prepare me for each day. I need advice from people who understand. To be honest, I don't know what I need. Has anyone else had this? How do I overcome it? Any thoughts?

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Sara On 1/26/11, Sub.. wrote:

Well, teaching's not for everybody but little that you've said would convince me that you're one of the people for whom teaching is the wrong thing to do. But that said - lesson planning is key. It's commonplace to not have long enough lessons at the beginning and over the years, you build up a bank of lessons and...See MoreOn 1/26/11, Sub.. wrote:

Well, teaching's not for everybody but little that you've said would convince me that you're one of the people for whom teaching is the wrong thing to do. But that said - lesson planning is key. It's commonplace to not have long enough lessons at the beginning and over the years, you build up a bank of lessons and activities in your head that you can pull out at any given moment.

Did you like anything about being in the classroom? It concerns me a bit that you're not saying anything positive. Did you enjoy the students? Did they evidence any positive response to you and your teaching?

I think subbing is trial by fire - but you for the most part as a sub will be given lesson plans and won't have to do planning. You could give that a try and see how you feel then. What about a teaching assistant? They're not often hired at the high school level though but being a TA can give you insight into how much you like teaching while still not having primary responsibility for a class.

But yes - your first year of teaching will be Hard. I went to bed each night at 2 - my first year - and got up at 6. If you want an easy first year on the job, don't teach. The first year is NOT easy but each year after that usually gets a bit easier than the year before.

In an English class you can always fill odd moments with writing -though some kids are very resistant to it. You can fill it with discussion and most kids like that or fill it with debate - who wants to make a case that Shakespeare is not the best writer in the English language because his plot devices are so incredibly trivial?" I always have takers for that and then some students who want to passionately defend Shakespeare. "Who believes that rap is a kind of poetry"? (My students will climb over each other to defend that)

Did you like the kids? How passionately do you feel about the English language, about writing, about rhetoric and the many wonderful aspects of communication? You were teaching under a critical eye - what if you had a freer hand? It will be work but I for one find it fun - I love what I teach and most of the kids seem to lap it up and enjoy class and say things like "I never thought I could understand Shakespeare."

Check out youtube - it has Great Stuff for teaching. We teach in the new day and under the influence of the New Criticism and Reader Response Theory when everybody's individual interpretation of literature is valid. Students love hearing that. Yes there are reluctant readers but it's very gratifying to help them forgive themselves for that and actually enjoy hearing about literature. Literature is life itself - I find that heady - and I love sharing with students how much literature has influenced my life even if it hasn't had that impact on theirs.

Are you a storyteller? Do you like to share? Teaching can be a wonderful bully pulpit. In any case, I hope you find your answer but little that you've said here causes me to question your choice of teaching as a career.

> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway, sorry to rant. I just need help getting back my >> passion to do this. I need good resources to help me fix my >> issues and prepare me for each day. I need advice from >> people who understand. To be honest, I don't know what I >> need. Has anyone else had this? How do I overcome it? Any >> thoughts?

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Buster Well, teaching's not for everybody but little that you've said > would convince me that you're one of the people for whom > teaching is the wrong thing to do.

I have considered that. I thought that almost every day of my student teaching experience.

> Did you like anything about being in the classroom? It concerns > ...See MoreWell, teaching's not for everybody but little that you've said > would convince me that you're one of the people for whom > teaching is the wrong thing to do.

I have considered that. I thought that almost every day of my student teaching experience.

> Did you like anything about being in the classroom? It concerns > me a bit that you're not saying anything positive. Did you enjoy > the students? Did they evidence any positive response to you and > your teaching?

For the most part, I did like the students. I had a class that was half ELL, and the school I worked at did not have an ELL program. Also, nearly half of the class was on IEPs, and the school didn't have an integrated SpEd department, only case workers and a resource room. They were the toughest kids to teach because they didn't buy into anything I was trying to do and they didn't see me as the teacher because my CT kept disempowering me in front of the students. But still, I feel like I made some real connections in that class, maybe moreso than the honors class I also taught. Those kids were teacher-pleasers, so anything I did with them was fine (and it was refreshing to not have to fight with students to do something).

In reality, I cannot give the canned answer "because I love working with kids" to the question "why do you want to be a teacher?" I don't think a teacher necessarily has to love kids to be a good teacher. I do have a passion for language, however. And I don't want all of our kids to grow up with Jersey Shore as their only point of culture. I want to be a teacher because I want to serve as a role model to people who are trying to figure out who they want to be. I want to teach English because I think the ability to communicate clearly is the most important skill a student can learn.

>But that said - lesson > planning is key. It's commonplace to not have long enough > lessons at the beginning and over the years, you build up a bank > of lessons and activities in your head that you can pull out at > any given moment.

That's what I'm banking on, but that deer-in-the-headlights feeling is the worst thing in the world when you're in front of a class of students. I don't really buy into giving the students time to read in class because they should be able to do that on their own time and work during class time, but I have to fall back on in-class reading often because I don't have enough work to give them...yet. I am pretty organized and I know that I will eventually accumulate a bunch of lessons I can teach on the fly, and I can't wait for that day to come.

> But yes - your first year of teaching will be Hard. I went to > bed each night at 2 - my first year - and got up at 6. If you > want an easy first year on the job, don't teach. The first year > is NOT easy but each year after that usually gets a bit easier > than the year before.

I understand that it's hard. I expect it to be hard. I just don't think it should be health-threatening. 3 hours of sleep a day is unhealthy and none of the teachers I know said they had to do that.

> Are you a storyteller? Do you like to share? Teaching can be a > wonderful bully pulpit. In any case, I hope you find your answer > but little that you've said here causes me to question your > choice of teaching as a career.

I still wonder if I chose the right profession. I find it hard to believe that, after all the time and money I put into doing this, I would flake out at the very end. I'm going to sub for a while. I think that I made the right choice in careers. I'm getting my passion back and I'm starting to have dreams again where I'm in front of a class and things go smoothly rather than the trainwreck teaching dreams I was having. Anyway, thanks for the post. It gave me a lot to think about.

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Integrating myself into the classroom

by Caroline

Jan 23, 2011

I am doing some practicum work this semester before I do my student teaching next spring. I am coming into the classroom half way through the school year. The norms and expectations have already been established. The teacher and students know each other very well. How do I integrate myself into the classroom without messing up what is already in th...See More

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Leah Watch, listen, and ask the teacher for direction. Work on learning the children's names.

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Jan 24, 2011

I only have three days left of student teaching and im wondering about what to do with my kids on the last day. I was thinking of giving them an evaluation form, so that they could evaluate my teaching. I believe that this will give me feedback on my stregths and weaknesses from my students perspectives. I want to give them specific questions so th...See More

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why do you feel you need to do this? Why do you feel you need to do this? I understant that textbooks recommend it, but it was my impression that it works better when the teacher is their assigned teacher and is there later to apply what she learned from it.

As important as the final evaluation is, I think I wouldn't want to risk bringing negative attention to anything you m...See More

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Motivating Students

by KatLeslie

Jan 27, 2011

I am in a teacher education program and just starting my practicums. Today I was helping a child with his reading. He was not taking it very seriously and I said to him, "did you know that the more you practice reading, the better reader you will become? you need to practice so your brain can learn." His response was, "I know but I don't want to be...See More

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DaveAnimal All I can say is to have kids want to be in your classroom by providing an enviornment that lends itself to foster a love of learning. I can't say enough about a program I was introduced to a couple of weeks back. The Positive Engagement Project has been a blessing as far as helping me transform my classroom into a more positive place. I agree with...See MoreAll I can say is to have kids want to be in your classroom by providing an enviornment that lends itself to foster a love of learning. I can't say enough about a program I was introduced to a couple of weeks back. The Positive Engagement Project has been a blessing as far as helping me transform my classroom into a more positive place. I agree with other posters that making learning interesting is key. There are tons of great programs and strategies out there, PEP is just one. Teaching is striving to always do better and look for as many great ideas and techniques as possible. This site, teachers dot net is a great example of what teacher helping teachers is all about.

On 2/08/11, Just getting started wrote: > I believe that the best way to get a child who is not interested > in reading to read, it to make reading fun. As teachers, if we > can choose interesting books and show students how entertaining > reading can be, I believe we will spark an interest and desire > in our students to learn. Also, we must be patient in helping > the students learn to read. Reading is a subject that can be > very frustrating until it has been mastered, but by making sure > each student is making the proper progress, we can keep the > students from being discouraged or feeling like they've failed at > this aspect of learning, before they've even really begun. > > On 2/05/11, Learning the ropes wrote: >> On 1/27/11, KatLeslie wrote: >>> I am in a teacher education program and just starting my >>> practicums. Today I was helping a child with his reading. >>> He was not taking it very seriously and I said to him, "did >>> you know that the more you practice reading, the better >>> reader you will become? you need to practice so your brain >>> can learn." His response was, "I know but I don't want to >>> because I don't like reading." What would be the best way >>> to handle this situation? Thanks for the advice! >> >> I have also noticed from my classroom experience, that student >> motivation is a common barrier to learning. A few things I >> have found that really help are showing the students how >> excited you are about what you are trying to teach them and >> explaining why you think what your teaching is so important in >> a way they can understand. However, in general I think the >> best way to motivate students is to learn to relate to their >> interests on their level. As far as explaining the importance >> of reading, you could ask the student what he wants to do >> when he grows up. Then, explain to him how reading will help >> him in his future job as an astronaught, fireman, etc. You >> could also ask him if he likes to play video games, and >> explain that if he wants to be good at them, he will need to >> be able to read the instructions. Point out how in adventure >> movies the hero has to read a treasure map, or how in Harry >> Potter he has to read his spells, these are just some silly >> examples, but the point is to relate to his interest and >> explain why reading is important in areas he sees as >> important. You could also motivate him with a sort of reward >> system for reading a certain amount of books. As far as >> trying to motivate him on his level, the content of the book >> is also very important. If your student is having to read >> about a subject he doesn't find very interesting, I could see >> how he would get bored. Maybe if you ask him some of his >> interests: sports, animals, games, etc. and look for some >> books about those specific topics he would get excited about >> reading. This has worked remarkably well for me, particularly >> with easy reader Disney books, which have pictures in them. >> Depending on your setting, this much individualized attention >> may not be possible, but I think trying to relate learning to >> students' interests as much as possible is really helpful. >> Just a few thoughts for you...what you told him is >> right though, that he will enjoy reading more and get better >> at it the more he practices. If you continue to work with >> him, my guess is that it will get easier each time. Don't get >> discouraged :

Feb 8, 2011

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Leah Davies You may be interested in the following articles:

Motivating Children; Successful Teachers; Love and Logic Basic.

Just click below and on the title of your choice

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