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special education help

by lisa yeoman

Apr 14, 2012

Hello Everyone! Please help! I am conducting a survey for current and former special education teachers to complete my MA in special education. Please take 5 minutes to fill out this short survey-your input is valuable! Thank you in advance:) [link removed]

Why I quit subbing....

by Lauren

Jun 3, 2012

First of all Janice, you are NOT worth 117,000 a year! I don't care HOW LONG you've been teaching. How do you even begin to justify that much???? The poor tax payers in your school district are being raped financially just so you can live your life of Riley. That's almost 10,000.00 a month! And the poor machine operator who struggles to put food on...See More

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lostsubteacher Well,

Substitute teaching is a very difficult job, although regular teachers do seem to see you as a "babysitter" type, at least from my experience, and they don't really seem to expect much out of you, even though you likely do have a degree in Education and are willing to learn. Most places, like my district, even use an automated syste...See MoreWell,

Substitute teaching is a very difficult job, although regular teachers do seem to see you as a "babysitter" type, at least from my experience, and they don't really seem to expect much out of you, even though you likely do have a degree in Education and are willing to learn. Most places, like my district, even use an automated system for choosing subs, so the regular teacher may not even get a chance to meet the sub. The busy work left for the students indicates that the regular teacher expects very little out of the sub, but I guess that's just the way the system is set up. My district also doesn't allow subs to access teachers' computers or use any of the online resources available to the regular teachers, but that's the policy; it's not the teachers' fault.

I also think that it's fruitless for new graduates to criticize the teachers who already found jobs in a better economy and worked for their tenure; from what I've seen, the older teachers are in a league of their own. They've gained experience and education that allows them to effectively deal with situations most would struggle with. It's definitely probably difficult to train a new teacher to deal with similar situations. I, personally, though, would almost work for free to receive some of that training and respect, though and would like to be trained by one of those seasoned professionals. Where can I sign up? Student teaching was not enough and barely prepared me for anything. My respect goes to veteran teachers across America who had enough courage to mess up, stay in, experiment, learn more, and grow through experience.

On 6/08/12, To: anon wrote: > I couldn't have said it better myself! AMEN!! > > > On 6/08/12, anon wrote: >> There are so many falsehoods here it makes me sick. As a >> teacher you are NOT paid for summers and holidays, and you are >> only paid for instruction hours. You take tons of work home >> or work after hours at school to get caught up. You are >> basically laid off during the summer; teachers typically get >> their checks spread out over 12 months so the districts don't >> have to pay UI when teachers are laid off for the school year. >> You think teaching is easy? Try it instead of being > such a >> jealous jerk because you made lousy life choices. >> >> You are such a jealous, filthy liar it isn't really worth >> responding to you. >> >> >> >> On 6/03/12, Lauren wrote: >>> First of all Janice, you are NOT worth 117,000 a year! I >>> don't care HOW LONG you've been teaching. How do you even >>> begin to justify that much???? The poor tax payers in your >>> school district are being raped financially just so you can >>> live your life of Riley. That's almost 10,000.00 a month! >>> And the poor machine operator who struggles to put food on >>> the table and send his kids to school pays whopping taxes so >>> "Janice" can her outrageous pay. And for what? Basically >>> glorified babysitting. It makes me sick! I don't want any >>> part of your profession. >>> >>> And by the way....you DO get paid for summers, holidays, >>> etc. You divide by 52 weeks and get paychecks over the >>> summer. If you say, "No, I divide by 40 because that's how >>> many school days there are..." then you are an idiot and >>> shouldn't be teaching. DUH!

Jun 11, 2012

Reality On 6/04/12, Lauren wrote: > Oh Janice, > I'm SOOOOOOOOOO glad you responded! I completely forgot > another reason I think teachers are spoiled brats...WHO do you > think pays for all those 30 extra credits, master degrees and > Who-Z-Whatsy extra credits you so tout as YOURS! > That's right...poor Joe taxpayer.

Anyone ha...See More

Aug 3, 2012

Re: Why I quit subbing.....

by Detective Dan

Jun 5, 2012

All clues lead to a troll on board...isn't that correct, "Lauren"?

Any Help for a New Grad?

by subfrommobile

Jun 11, 2012

I'm still having trouble finding a teaching job in my district; I've been searching for a few months. I was wondering if any of the teacher unions helped newly licensed teachers find work. I would like to start working and am excited about joining the teaching world.

Kimberly from SoCal On 6/11/12, subfrommobile wrote: > I'm still having trouble finding a teaching job in my > district; I've been searching for a few months. I was > wondering if any of the teacher unions helped newly > licensed teachers find work. I would like to start working > and am excited about joining the teaching world.

First off I'd l...See MoreOn 6/11/12, subfrommobile wrote: > I'm still having trouble finding a teaching job in my > district; I've been searching for a few months. I was > wondering if any of the teacher unions helped newly > licensed teachers find work. I would like to start working > and am excited about joining the teaching world.

First off I'd like to wish you good luck on your job search. In my state, there is a student version of the teachers' union that is directly related to the teaching union itself. I would suggest looking into that union and what is available to its members. Ours offered advice regarding our portfolios, interviews, and other similar job search resources.

Second, I'd like to pass along some information from when I was looking for a job in a tough market. Our teacher preparation program was taught in a cohort format, so I went through all my classes and student teaching with the same group of people for a year. After that year, I was in touch with all of them and tracked them as they did their job searches while I went on to earn my M.Ed.

Many of them, (about half) did not find a job their first year. Those that did -accepted jobs out of the area in rural or urban schools or they accepted jobs in (their)less desired subject matter/age groups. The areas of greatest need at that time were teaching language learners, special education, or middle school aged students. Our credential was aimed at elementary education and many of the teachers wanted primary aged students. The ones that were open to moving found jobs easiest. We lived/went to school in Orange County,CA - a major continuation of the suburbs of Los Angeles. Teachers moved to the desert, to Los Angeles, to pretty much anywhere there was a boom in population or a shortage of teachers and got jobs without much problem.

Those that didn't have jobs within that first year subbed for about a year. School districts would often interview in panels and what many of them heard during those interviews was that the more experience they had subbing, the more desireable they'd be to hire on full time once there was an opening.

When I did get a job, I found one teaching middle school in ELD/Language Arts/Social Studies in a low performing school. Once I was in the district and established tenure, I was free to look at job openings around the district and found the 4th grade opening at a school where I really wanted to teach.

Keep track of openings in your district, make friends of the teachers you sub for and eat lunch with, check in with the administrators so they know your face and name. Do your job well- sticking as close to teacher plans as possible when they are available. Stay positive and humble (subs that brag about being more qualified than the teachers they sub for tend to make fewer friends). You'll find a job.

Jun 20, 2012

Sally As a teacher of 37 years experience, I'd like to say that Kimberly from SoCal offers excellent advice here to teachers looking for a permanent job. She really nails it!

On 6/20/12, Kimberly from SoCal wrote: > On 6/11/12, subfrommobile wrote: >> I'm still having trouble finding a teaching job in my >> district; I've been s...See MoreAs a teacher of 37 years experience, I'd like to say that Kimberly from SoCal offers excellent advice here to teachers looking for a permanent job. She really nails it!

On 6/20/12, Kimberly from SoCal wrote: > On 6/11/12, subfrommobile wrote: >> I'm still having trouble finding a teaching job in my >> district; I've been searching for a few months. I was >> wondering if any of the teacher unions helped newly >> licensed teachers find work. I would like to start working >> and am excited about joining the teaching world. > > First off I'd like to wish you good luck on your job search. > In my state, there is a student version of the teachers' union > that is directly related to the teaching union itself. I > would suggest looking into that union and what is available to > its members. Ours offered advice regarding our portfolios, > interviews, and other similar job search resources. > > Second, I'd like to pass along some information from when I > was looking for a job in a tough market. Our teacher > preparation program was taught in a cohort format, so I went > through all my classes and student teaching with the same > group of people for a year. After that year, I was in touch > with all of them and tracked them as they did their job > searches while I went on to earn my M.Ed. > > Many of them, (about half) did not find a job their first > year. Those that did -accepted jobs out of the area in rural > or urban schools or they accepted jobs in (their)less desired > subject matter/age groups. The areas of greatest need at that > time were teaching language learners, special education, or > middle school aged students. Our credential was aimed at > elementary education and many of the teachers wanted primary > aged students. The ones that were open to moving found jobs > easiest. We lived/went to school in Orange County,CA - a > major continuation of the suburbs of Los Angeles. Teachers > moved to the desert, to Los Angeles, to pretty much anywhere > there was a boom in population or a shortage of teachers and > got jobs without much problem. > > Those that didn't have jobs within that first year subbed for > about a year. School districts would often interview in > panels and what many of them heard during those interviews was > that the more experience they had subbing, the more desireable > they'd be to hire on full time once there was an opening. > > When I did get a job, I found one teaching middle school in > ELD/Language Arts/Social Studies in a low performing school. > Once I was in the district and established tenure, I was free > to look at job openings around the district and found the 4th > grade opening at a school where I really wanted to teach. > > Keep track of openings in your district, make friends of the > teachers you sub for and eat lunch with, check in with the > administrators so they know your face and name. Do your job > well- sticking as close to teacher plans as possible when they > are available. Stay positive and humble (subs that brag about > being more qualified than the teachers they sub for tend to > make fewer friends). You'll find a job. >

Nov 8, 2012

The Real Message about Unions

by LocoLouie in NY/NM

Jun 15, 2012

Wake Up People!!!!! We, as teachers, think of ourselves as professionals; when, in reality, we are merely hired help. Despite salary gains over the past 40 years ( I started at $5300 for 10 months and worked jobs over the summer ) we continue to compare ourselves to private sector occupations with the same level of education. With this poor economy...See More

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Broke FL Teacher On 12/13/12, waaa waa waa wrote: > When the teachers in IL were threatening to strike over wages they > listed the wages of every single teacher and their pay. I started > counting the ones over 100K when I reached a 125 and had pages of > names to go. They topped out at 147K other than one for 193K but I > wrote that off as an error...See MoreOn 12/13/12, waaa waa waa wrote: > When the teachers in IL were threatening to strike over wages they > listed the wages of every single teacher and their pay. I started > counting the ones over 100K when I reached a 125 and had pages of > names to go. They topped out at 147K other than one for 193K but I > wrote that off as an error. >

Good for them! They deserve it. I wouldn't teach in Chicago for any amount of money. I want to live.

> Teachers as well as most other government jobs have never paid really > well. You knew that going in or should have. If you don't like it you > could certainly change careers and make more. Many have. >

The posts here are trying to clear up misconceptions about teacher pay. These misconceptions drive the public to not support us when we look for pay increases. No one went into teaching to become rich.

> I always like the comparison to CEO's and Dr.'s. I don't know many > teachers who could run a corporation. There are tons of people with > as much education as you that don't make a lot more and those that > make less but you always choose the top of the crop to compare > yourself to even though study after study has shown teachers are not > the cream of the crop in colleges. >

They are the cream of the crop in Finland. Why? Because Finland pays teachers well.

No one said we can do the same job as CEO's or Dr's, just that they are professionals, too. (Since many teachers think they are professionals).

I have accepted the fact that I am not a professional based on the pay and treatment from everyone. I consider myself a lowly public servant. My pay is slightly above the principal's secretary (she makes $37,000, I make $38,000).

> As we tell our children take responsibility. Sitting around feeling > sorry for yourself doesn't accomplish anything for you or those > around you. If you don't like it either work to change your > profession or find another one. > > Or just keep sitting around crying to each other. >

Who is crying? Just stating facts to people who don't know any better.

Feb 2, 2013

AM C level professionals are the ones taking from everyone including ALL other professions whose status as well as pay has dropped dramatically. We don't have the tax money to pay you as we no longer pay the income taxes we used to.

Doctors you say? I wouldn't put teachers on a doctors level at all but that is besides the point. Doctors inco...See MoreC level professionals are the ones taking from everyone including ALL other professions whose status as well as pay has dropped dramatically. We don't have the tax money to pay you as we no longer pay the income taxes we used to.

Doctors you say? I wouldn't put teachers on a doctors level at all but that is besides the point. Doctors income has dropped dramatically. As those same CEO's make the decisions on what doctors can be paid by insurance companies many are now going into BK> They can't afford their businesses anymore. Others are not taking insurance at all. They'll give you receipts and you file yourself.

Same with nurses. They used to do patient care, while doing that it allowed them to evaluate the patients status. Now min wage employees do that. Nurses only dispense medicine etc. They have more patients than ever and since they are no longer involved in the lower forms of care patients are not getting the care they used to.

All professions are suffering, all professions have taken huge pay cuts as C level employees are raking in more and more.

On 6/15/12, LocoLouie in NY/NM wrote: > Wake Up People!!!!! We, as teachers, think of ourselves as > professionals; when, in reality, we are merely hired help. > Despite salary gains over the past 40 years ( I started at > $5300 for 10 months and worked jobs over the summer ) we > continue to compare ourselves to private sector occupations > with the same level of education. With this poor economy, > we sometimes forget the people who merely have minimum wage > jobs to support themselves and their families. We will > never have the prestige of the over priced _________ ( fill > in the blank > > with your own favorite cast of the evil empire ... see > CEO's ) or the power of politicians ( with union membership > dropping) so get use to having a target on your back. Just > like that English teacher said at the graduation exercise, > .." we are nothing special..." With the greed is good > attitude of the seventies and the F*** the public attitude > of government in the 80's, our prestige and influence has > never been lower. We are still working class people ( > government's definition ) because we are members of a union > and since we cannot afford the high priced lawyers like > businesses can, we are effectively screwed. Do we deserve > goo pay ? ( Doctors get big bucks for what they know and > do.(just like us) but no one screams to cut their pay. Cops > and firemen put their lives on the line but CEO's don't. > Our job is to help the future of this country, so why > should we be saying, " do you want fries with that?" Unions > are still the only thing that protects us from the > stupidity of the people. Congress has laws to protect them, > whynot for us too ?

Jul 11, 2013

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by Esmee

Jun 15, 2012

I'd like to see more articles like this one. Do you know where I can find them?adhd blogChildren with ADHDThere is a plrepexing state of affairs in today's society, there lies a strong correlation between the affluence of a society and the amount of disease that is present. There is also another correlation that troubles many a people and that is w...See MoreI'd like to see more articles like this one. Do you know where I can find them?adhd blogChildren with ADHDThere is a plrepexing state of affairs in today's society, there lies a strong correlation between the affluence of a society and the amount of disease that is present. There is also another correlation that troubles many a people and that is with affluence comes disease at an Earlier age.Working with children and the parents of these children I often get asked the question, 'Why are Children with ADHD on the increase?'The answer as you shall find is one that is both interesting and challenging.Children of today are really no more different from the children of yesterday in terms of genetic makeup. However, if you examine the issue more closely you will tend to find that many children today have been given labels. For example, 'Oh, those are children with ADHD' or 'Those are the children who can't sit still.' Or 'That is the kid that always gets into trouble.'These labels are not only destructive but also become a self fulfilling prophecy as it is repeated adnauseum.So as a 21st century parent or a parent with a child with ADHD or a parent with children with ADHD, what knowledge framework do you need to equip yourself with to ensure your children live out their true potential?Here is a quick reference list for thinking about ADHD? ADHD is a source of great frustration because it is misunderstood? ADHD medications are a great short term time buying device and should be avoided long term? The above point goes for any sort of drug consumption. Think about it for a minute. Unless you have a biochemical deficiency in your body like Type 1 diabetes where your body fails to produce enough insulin or any at all, why would you take an external drug? A body that is in balance is totally healthy. It is only when the body is out of balance that dis-ease symptoms start to creep up.? ADHD is a biochemical imbalance of the mind and body.? The Head of Psychiatry in Harvard states that drugs for ADHD simply mask the effects of ADHD. It does not cure ADHD. This is an important point because a cure implies never to have to take the medication. This means that once you start on medication you will have to be on it for the rest of your life i.e. you have medically acquired a dependency for a biochemical imbalance. That is like stuffing all your rubbish (problematic behaviors) into a closet (medication) where no one can see it. But if you continue to stuff more rubbish into that closet, one day you will not have enough space and need to do one of two things. You either empty the rubbish (the natural conclusion) or you get a bigger closet (i.e. change to stronger medication to control the symptoms). The choice is obvious but sometimes when you don't have the necessary tools to deal with ADHD you tend to think the bigger closet is the only option.? ADHD children are super sensitive to the emotions around them. Often they pick up emotional cues from their parents without realizing. Many parents come home frustrated or annoyed from work, the child with ADHD picks this up and starts to 'cause trouble' by becoming restless. Parents frustration increase because they just want some peace and quiet. They get angry which in turn is picked up by the child who then intensifies their activity. Things get way out of hand and some sort of punishment is handed down to the child who has no idea what just happened. The cycle repeats itself every so often. ? Our brains are wired emotionally. Positive praise is interpreted as an analytical/thinking exercise. Negative criticism including scolding, name calling, physical punishment all go directly to the emotional brain of children with ADHD. This means in order to ensure you get your message across in the most optimal way, you need to learn how to communicate with your ADHD children the way they like to be communicated with.? Every negative comment requires 16 positive comments to neutralize the emotion. Save yourself the frustration and agitation by practicing positive communication.The list is by no means complete. In dealing with children with ADHD there are a certain set of behavioural principles to follow. I will detail these steps in the coming weeks. I'll also build on the list as you continue to learn about what appears to be a mystical disorder known as 'Children with ADHD'

Retired Teacher I have always believed that there have been autistic kids, ADD kids, ADHD kids, ...all kinds of kids out there for years. We didn't get these problems overnight! I believe that it is the knowledge about them that has come to light. Years ago, if a child didn't make eye contact with anyone the parents didn't think anything of it.....probably thought...See MoreI have always believed that there have been autistic kids, ADD kids, ADHD kids, ...all kinds of kids out there for years. We didn't get these problems overnight! I believe that it is the knowledge about them that has come to light. Years ago, if a child didn't make eye contact with anyone the parents didn't think anything of it.....probably thought he was "shy". Now, with all the information on the internet, TV, etc, parents suspect autism and bring their kid to the doctor for a diagnosis. So.... these conditions have been around...many people have, in fact, lived with them for years but have been unaware of it!

> I'd like to see more articles like this one. Do you know where I can find them?adhd blogChildren with ADHDThere is a plrepexing state of affairs in today's society, there lies a strong correlation between the affluence of a society and the amount of disease that is present. There is also another correlation that troubles many a people and that is with affluence comes disease at an Earlier age.Working with children and the parents of these children I often get asked the question, 'Why are Children with ADHD on the increase?'The answer as you shall find is one that is both interesting and challenging.Children of today are really no more different from the children of yesterday in terms of genetic makeup. However, if you examine the issue more closely you will tend to find that many children today have been given labels. For example, 'Oh, those are children with ADHD' or 'Those are the children who can't sit still.' Or 'That is the kid that always gets into trouble.'These labels are not only destructive but also become a self fulfilling prophecy as it is repeated adnauseum.So as a 21st century parent or a parent with a child with ADHD or a parent with children with ADHD, what knowledge framework do you need to equip yourself with to ensure your children live out their true potential?Here is a quick reference list for thinking about ADHD? ADHD is a source of great frustration because it is misunderstood? ADHD medications are a great short term time buying device and should be avoided long term? The above point goes for any sort of drug consumption. Think about it for a minute. Unless you have a biochemical deficiency in your body like Type 1 diabetes where your body fails to produce enough insulin or any at all, why would you take an external drug? A body that is in balance is totally healthy. It is only when the body is out of balance that dis-ease symptoms start to creep up.? ADHD is a biochemical imbalance of the mind and body.? The Head of Psychiatry in Harvard states that drugs for ADHD simply mask the effects of ADHD. It does not cure ADHD. This is an important point because a cure implies never to have to take the medication. This means that once you start on medication you will have to be on it for the rest of your life i.e. you have medically acquired a dependency for a biochemical imbalance. That is like stuffing all your rubbish (problematic behaviors) into a closet (medication) where no one can see it. But if you continue to stuff more rubbish into that closet, one day you will not have enough space and need to do one of two things. You either empty the rubbish (the natural conclusion) or you get a bigger closet (i.e. change to stronger medication to control the symptoms). The choice is obvious but sometimes when you don't have the necessary tools to deal with ADHD you tend to think the bigger closet is the only option.? ADHD children are super sensitive to the emotions around them. Often they pick up emotional cues from their parents without realizing. Many parents come home frustrated or annoyed from work, the child with ADHD picks this up and starts to 'cause trouble' by becoming restless. Parents frustration increase because they just want some peace and quiet. They get angry which in turn is picked up by the child who then intensifies their activity. Things get way out of hand and some sort of punishment is handed down to the child who has no idea what just happened. The cycle repeats itself every so often. ? Our brains are wired emotionally. Positive praise is interpreted as an analytical/thinking exercise. Negative criticism including scolding, name calling, physical punishment all go directly to the emotional brain of children with ADHD. This means in order to ensure you get your message across in the most optimal way, you need to learn how to communicate with your ADHD children the way they like to be communicated with.? Every negative comment requires 16 positive comments to neutralize the emotion. Save yourself the frustration and agitation by practicing positive communication.The list is by no means complete. In dealing with children with ADHD there are a certain set of behavioural principles to follow. I will detail these steps in the coming weeks. I'll also build on the list as you continue to learn about what appears to be a mystical disorder known as 'Children with ADHD'

Jun 15, 2012

Teacher Evaluations Publicized

by Veteran Teacher

Jun 17, 2012

Just wondering what you think about teachers' evaluations being open to the public to view. As it stands now, only the kids' parents can view the results of the evalustions (efficient, inefficient, etc). It seems that if the general public can view teachers' salaries they should be able to see if the teachers are, in fact, earning those salaries......See More

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NOt so On 6/17/12, Veteran Teacher wrote: > Just wondering what you think about teachers' evaluations > being open to the public to view. As it stands now, only > the kids' parents can view the results of the evalustions > (efficient, inefficient, etc). It seems that if the general > public can view teachers' salaries they should be able to...See More

Aug 3, 2012

Privacy I have yet to receive a bad eval and I would quit my job and go into a new field if they had to be public. I live in a small enough town as it is...I don't need rumors compounded about me from some principal who has no experience in my field but for whatever reason is "qualified" to evaluate me. No, I don't think so. I do not hold my principal's ev...See More

Feb 2, 2013

"Secret Millionaire"--Perhaps you've seen an episode!

by Dean

Aug 13, 2012

Sunday night,Aug.12th my wife and I were very gratified and inspired to see the latest program on ABC/Secret Millionaire! I would encourage you to spend a few minutes and view this inspiring program of the 25 year old and how he became at a very young age a millionaire!! The program tells where he visited and how he willingly gave very generously f...See More

by french teacher

Oct 21, 2012

Hi all, I’ll be direct: I suffered an accident in my school, a student closed firmly a door against my head, ambulance, head injury, 3 days, compensation; 1 week later: constant headaches, 2 weeks later: syncope vasovagal, a black curtain closed my eyes in the school, I passed out, ambulance, 3 days more; today: it continue the headaches. What to...See More

Holly I am a union rep for my building. If one of my teachers came to me with this situation, I would recommend that they look into what it says in the contract regarding short term disability. I would tell you to talk to your director of personnel and see what steps you would have to take (most likely doctor recommendation) to see if this would be an op...See More

Nov 28, 2012

A Teacher Died Today by Al Haskvitz

by Teachers.Net Gazette

Dec 1, 2012

It was a slow death. Indeed it took years to wake him up to the fact that he was dead. [Click below to read the rest.]

[link removed]]

Elaine On 12/01/12, Teachers.Net Gazette wrote: > It was a slow death. Indeed it took years to wake him up to > the fact that he was dead. [Click below to read the rest.] > > [link removed]]

this was very good...and pretty much how I felt when I decided to retire. Thanks for posting the link

Dec 1, 2012

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