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Counseling Positions

by D Thomas

Feb 6, 2012

So whats with the counseling positions at top tier schools this year? Some even had multiple openings at the same school. And it seemed like a lot newbies just walked into top schools this year. Not that I'm jealous (much).

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Dave Is your internship going to be a semester or year?

On 3/30/12, School Psyc wrote: > I am glad I started moving forward with adding school counselor back > in the fall. I should be doing my internship in the fall of 2013. > > On 3/30/12, Dave wrote: >> Im sorry, its just the way the market is shifting. Your either a >...See More

Mar 31, 2012

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School Psyc I believe that only one semester is required, unlike my school psychologist one that was full time for an entire school-year.

On 3/31/12, Dave wrote: > Is your internship going to be a semester or year? > > On 3/30/12, School Psyc wrote: >> I am glad I started moving forward with adding school counselor back >> in the...See More

Apr 2, 2012

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Would love to go abroad for the summer...

by Lauren

Feb 22, 2012

I am overwhelmed after typing in "summer jobs abroad" in a recent google search. I am a middle school English teacher with six years experience and would love to spend a summer overseas (anywhere) teaching or leading student groups. Does anyone have any experience/direction in how to go about this or what agency to use? Thanks!

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Dave Daves ESL cafe is a good spot to start. TIE online is as well (but costs money to join). What i would do is decide on a location (country) you would like to go to then go to the IBO website ([link removed].

On 2/22/12, Lauren wrote: > I am overwhelmed after typing in "summer jobs abroad" in a > recent google search. I am a middle sc...See More

Feb 22, 2012

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Teach in Korea

by Shuntena

Feb 22, 2012

Having trouble finding work in the US? Come Teach in Korea and have a 1-year adventure while getting paid! Easily return home with savings of $15K or more! Location: Seoul, Korea & surrounding areas Salary: Starting @ 2.5 mil (about $ 2,350)/ one month bonus pay at completion of contract Housing: Yes. Fully-Furnished Insurance: Yes Air-Fare: Pa...See More

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Dave Not that great for an ESL gig in S.Korea, and certainly not competitive for a real international school or a real teacher.

On 2/22/12, Shuntena wrote: > Having trouble finding work in the US? Come Teach in Korea > and have a 1-year adventure while getting paid! Easily > return home with savings of $15K or more! > Location: Seo...See More

Feb 23, 2012

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~Just beginning to look for 12/13..TOO LATE???

by in hopes for next year

Mar 3, 2012

Due to life changes I am just starting to look for opportunities for next year.

Most of the schools I check already are posting that they have finished hiring for next year.

What schools/countries typically hire a littel later , so that I might still have a chance?

Also, I am looking for an area with a great opportunity f...See More

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D. Thomas That could actually be a significant boost to get you noticed, if you play it up right.

Shanghai American and Nanjing are also considered very good options in China. There are some good options for saving in the ME, but many of the better schools have done most of their hiring and those countries are doable, but not the best for a single w...See MoreThat could actually be a significant boost to get you noticed, if you play it up right.

Shanghai American and Nanjing are also considered very good options in China. There are some good options for saving in the ME, but many of the better schools have done most of their hiring and those countries are doable, but not the best for a single woman/parent.

There is usually a smaller wave of jobs around April as things crystalize for schools (new classes being added, last minute resignations etc) so one of the better schools could have need of you. The previous connection with China could make you stand out a bit with schools here.

3/03/12, in hopes for next year wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts. > > I forgot to mention that I am currently teaching ECE at a IB-PYP USA > school, although this is my first year and the school is still in the > initial 3 yr training period. Guess this is betetr than no IB > expereince. > > What other schools, besides WAB or ISB do most consider great options > in China? > > You mentioned " Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore are difficult to save > money >> in compared to other places in asia. " > > What countries WOULD others suggestion (In asia or worldwide) for great > savings potetial??? > > thanks > > PS What country are you in/have been in??. > > > > > > On 3/03/12, Dave wrote: >> Your not to late at all for China. Ive found that savings has a lot >> more to do with you then with the country or salary. You can save >> in Europe if your frugal, and while factors in a region can make >> it easier, I know people that make huge salaries in places with low >> cost of living that are basically broke all the time. Second, >> visiting a place and living in a place incorporate different > type >> of economics. Yes, you can save in Taiwan, but its not as easy > as >> it is in China. >> >> Your very competitive, the only thing your missing is IB experience, >> which for Primary is significant. Not that its impossible, but if >> you had PYP experience youd have a job in Asia in a week, but > your >> the type of candidate that a school is likely to consider "worth" >> training if they are going to go that direction. Primary tends to be >> harder to find later in the year, as schools need to/like to save a >> primary position or two for teaching couples where one spouse is in >> a hard to fill teaching subject. >> >> Honestly, a top tier or "elite" school is going to be a harder >> issue. Its just late in the hiring season, and your teaching area >> isnt in very high demand. Those schools are just harder to walk >> into. Not that it doesnt happen, but you have a higher probability >> of being disappointed if say ISB or WAB dont hire you. If your >> thinking elite schools in China, there are about 6-8 total. > Thats a >> pretty small list. >> >> Singapore is nice, and its a super easy country to live in. The >> saving potential just isnt there though. Singapore is an expensive >> city, and your housing allowance probably wouldnt cover more then a >> HDB apartment. You can save if your frugal, but it would be harder >> to bank the type of money you would in China or Indonesia. The three >> tigers Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore are difficult to save > money >> in compared to other places in asia. >> >> >> >> On 3/03/12, starting to look wrote: >>> Thanks. >>> >>> I would prefer Asia and would really prefer China or a country >>> that has Mandarin, as my child (primary school) is studying >>> Mandarin the US. >>> >>> As for me I am a Reading Specialist, ESL ane ECE/Primary teacher- >>> all certified and experienced.STRONG background in curriculum and >>> staff development. I am also a certified Principal, but have >>> never served in that capacity. >>> 40 years old, single, 1 primary aged child. >>> 18 years experience, advanced degrees. >>> Not sure if this is considered "competitive" or would they prefer >>> young teachers w/ just a few years???? >>> >>> As stated my wish list would be a great (or very good school) >>> where my child can also receive at least minimal Mandarin in >>> school. IF a school in China, I want a top tier school, or very, >>> very close. >>> >>> ***I know Taiwan has Mandarin, but can you really SAVE there??? >>> WHen I lived in China before I saved quite a bit, but when we >>> visited Taiwan on vacations it was quite expensive, especially >>> compared to China. >>> >>> ***What about Singapore? Are the salaries/benefits there to the >>> standard where the living is comfortable and potential to save?? >>> >>> ***If a Mandarin speaking country is not going to be an option, >>> what other countries/schools could someone recommend where we >>> could have a comfortable lifestyle and great very good or better >>> savings potential. If our first choices aren't going to be an >>> option, we are open to a year or two of transition where we just >>> kind of rest, take it easy and would like to save in the interim. >>> Then we could really get on track for 13/14 or 14/15. >>> Basicly if we can't have our main/primary choices, then I would >>> really like to SAVE!!!! >>> >>> ANY advice is greatly appreciated!!!! >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/03/12, Dave wrote: >>>> Your a little late, but not if your a competitive candidate >>>> and your really open about where to go. >>>> >>>> As far as savings go, Asia is the way to go. You cant really >>>> save money in Europe. Places like China, Thailand, Taiwan, >>>> Philippines, Indonesia come with contracts that include >>>> housing and have low cost of living and taxes, this is the >>>> formula for high savings potential. >>>> >>>> Tell us more about you and your resume, and we can be more >>>> specific. Where are you interested in outside "savings"? >>>> Whats your family situation? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/03/12, in hopes for next year wrote: >>>>> Due to life changes I am just starting to look for >>>>> opportunities for next year. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the schools I check already are posting that they >>>>> have finished hiring for next year. >>>>> >>>>> What schools/countries typically hire a littel later , so >>>>> that I might still have a chance? >>>>> >>>>> Also, I am looking for an area with a great opportunity for >>>>> saving a good portion of my salary. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks!

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Dave Actually that would be perfect, IB PYP experience regardless the schools level of authorization is very valuable. Just leave out the first your of authorization, and youd be a hot commodity.

The asian countries with the BEST income potential are in my opinion:

Thailand Philippines Indonesia China S. Korea

Taiwan and Vi...See MoreActually that would be perfect, IB PYP experience regardless the schools level of authorization is very valuable. Just leave out the first your of authorization, and youd be a hot commodity.

The asian countries with the BEST income potential are in my opinion:

Thailand Philippines Indonesia China S. Korea

Taiwan and Vietnam/Cambodia have good potential as well, but not the best.

Im in "northern europe", around Denmark (long story). Ive worked in Egypt, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, and Italy. Ive studied in the UK and France.

On 3/03/12, in hopes for next year wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts. > > I forgot to mention that I am currently teaching ECE at a IB-PYP USA > school, although this is my first year and the school is still in the > initial 3 yr training period. Guess this is betetr than no IB > expereince. > > What other schools, besides WAB or ISB do most consider great options > in China? > > You mentioned " Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore are difficult to save > money >> in compared to other places in asia. " > > What countries WOULD others suggestion (In asia or worldwide) for great > savings potetial??? > > thanks > > PS What country are you in/have been in??. > > > > > > On 3/03/12, Dave wrote: >> Your not to late at all for China. Ive found that savings has a lot >> more to do with you then with the country or salary. You can save >> in Europe if your frugal, and while factors in a region can make >> it easier, I know people that make huge salaries in places with low >> cost of living that are basically broke all the time. Second, >> visiting a place and living in a place incorporate different > type >> of economics. Yes, you can save in Taiwan, but its not as easy > as >> it is in China. >> >> Your very competitive, the only thing your missing is IB experience, >> which for Primary is significant. Not that its impossible, but if >> you had PYP experience youd have a job in Asia in a week, but > your >> the type of candidate that a school is likely to consider "worth" >> training if they are going to go that direction. Primary tends to be >> harder to find later in the year, as schools need to/like to save a >> primary position or two for teaching couples where one spouse is in >> a hard to fill teaching subject. >> >> Honestly, a top tier or "elite" school is going to be a harder >> issue. Its just late in the hiring season, and your teaching area >> isnt in very high demand. Those schools are just harder to walk >> into. Not that it doesnt happen, but you have a higher probability >> of being disappointed if say ISB or WAB dont hire you. If your >> thinking elite schools in China, there are about 6-8 total. > Thats a >> pretty small list. >> >> Singapore is nice, and its a super easy country to live in. The >> saving potential just isnt there though. Singapore is an expensive >> city, and your housing allowance probably wouldnt cover more then a >> HDB apartment. You can save if your frugal, but it would be harder >> to bank the type of money you would in China or Indonesia. The three >> tigers Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore are difficult to save > money >> in compared to other places in asia. >> >> >> >> On 3/03/12, starting to look wrote: >>> Thanks. >>> >>> I would prefer Asia and would really prefer China or a country >>> that has Mandarin, as my child (primary school) is studying >>> Mandarin the US. >>> >>> As for me I am a Reading Specialist, ESL ane ECE/Primary teacher- >>> all certified and experienced.STRONG background in curriculum and >>> staff development. I am also a certified Principal, but have >>> never served in that capacity. >>> 40 years old, single, 1 primary aged child. >>> 18 years experience, advanced degrees. >>> Not sure if this is considered "competitive" or would they prefer >>> young teachers w/ just a few years???? >>> >>> As stated my wish list would be a great (or very good school) >>> where my child can also receive at least minimal Mandarin in >>> school. IF a school in China, I want a top tier school, or very, >>> very close. >>> >>> ***I know Taiwan has Mandarin, but can you really SAVE there??? >>> WHen I lived in China before I saved quite a bit, but when we >>> visited Taiwan on vacations it was quite expensive, especially >>> compared to China. >>> >>> ***What about Singapore? Are the salaries/benefits there to the >>> standard where the living is comfortable and potential to save?? >>> >>> ***If a Mandarin speaking country is not going to be an option, >>> what other countries/schools could someone recommend where we >>> could have a comfortable lifestyle and great very good or better >>> savings potential. If our first choices aren't going to be an >>> option, we are open to a year or two of transition where we just >>> kind of rest, take it easy and would like to save in the interim. >>> Then we could really get on track for 13/14 or 14/15. >>> Basicly if we can't have our main/primary choices, then I would >>> really like to SAVE!!!! >>> >>> ANY advice is greatly appreciated!!!! >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/03/12, Dave wrote: >>>> Your a little late, but not if your a competitive candidate >>>> and your really open about where to go. >>>> >>>> As far as savings go, Asia is the way to go. You cant really >>>> save money in Europe. Places like China, Thailand, Taiwan, >>>> Philippines, Indonesia come with contracts that include >>>> housing and have low cost of living and taxes, this is the >>>> formula for high savings potential. >>>> >>>> Tell us more about you and your resume, and we can be more >>>> specific. Where are you interested in outside "savings"? >>>> Whats your family situation? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/03/12, in hopes for next year wrote: >>>>> Due to life changes I am just starting to look for >>>>> opportunities for next year. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the schools I check already are posting that they >>>>> have finished hiring for next year. >>>>> >>>>> What schools/countries typically hire a littel later , so >>>>> that I might still have a chance? >>>>> >>>>> Also, I am looking for an area with a great opportunity for >>>>> saving a good portion of my salary. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks!

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***Needing the basics of International school teaching

by in hopes for next year

Mar 3, 2012

Hello,

After deciding I have a better chance of getting elected President than being picked up by DoDDS, I have decided to really consider International schools.

After reading the posts here I see that I may have some misconceptions and have "over generalized" the benefits.

I realize that there are variations in all schoo...See More

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Help From Those With Experience

by International Couple

Mar 4, 2012

This will probably be a long post; please don't feel obligated to respond to the whole thing. There are just a lot of thoughts going through my head! I would appreciate all of the help that I can get.

My wife and I would like to teach internationally beginning in the 2013-2014 school year. I have an MS in mathematics, 5 years as a univers...See MoreThis will probably be a long post; please don't feel obligated to respond to the whole thing. There are just a lot of thoughts going through my head! I would appreciate all of the help that I can get.

My wife and I would like to teach internationally beginning in the 2013-2014 school year. I have an MS in mathematics, 5 years as a university lecturer, and 2 years as a high school math teacher. My wife has a BS in biology (MS in geoscience expected summer 2013) and 2 years as a middle school science teacher. We both have standard teaching certificates from the state of Texas. We have no dependents and no plan on having any.

Question 1) From the above, do we look like decent candidates for teaching overseas?

Question 2) My wife would like to know if picking up additional certifications would be beneficial. She has a certificate allowing her to teach core courses in the 4th through 8th grades. Should she get an 8-12 certificate as well? What about an ESL certificate?

Question 3) We are thinking about starting accounts with Search Associates. Is this a good idea?

Question 4) How much "stuff" can you typically take with you? We are not home-owners, but have a two bedroom apartment. Obviously everything can't go, but do we have to sell/store most of our possessions?

Question 5) After moving allowances, how many expenses were a surprise. I would like to have between $6,000-$10,000 saved in case we need it. Should we shoot for more?

Question 6) Is there anything else we do to plan ahead? We have passports. Is there anything else from a paperwork perspective we can take care of early.

Question 7) Based on reading this board and our desire to save money, it looks like China would be one of the more attractive options. Where else should we look?

Question 8) What countries or regions should we definitely NOT be looking at? Western Europe is probably a "No" since we'd like to save a little, some Middle-Eastern countries are probably a "No" with the Arab Spring, etc.

Question 9) What about pets? We have no kids, but our one (very small) dog is like a child. Which countries would allow her to come, too?

Sorry for the long post, but I'd appreciate any help that I can get. If you have any other thoughts for making the transition as easy as possible, please let me know!

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International Couple Thanks for the help, Dave.

> Hi again, well a good time would have been 4 months ago. Hiring usually > starts in November, with the 3 big fairs in January, early February being > the "end" of hiring season. It starts again to a smaller degree in April, > when schools have a better idea on who is and isnt returning.

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Dave Yeah its too early for 2013/2014. Schools are still recruiting for 2012/2013,. Aside from that n one would really know who is leaving or returning that far down the road. Its really as one season ends (August) the next is about to start (November).

Yeah thats really it, you visit the websites of schools you like, and bookmark their HR pag...See More

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IES Schools in Sweden

by Wanderlust

Mar 7, 2012

Hi all,

Does anyone have any knowledge of the IES Schools (Internationella Engelska Skolan) in Sweden? From what little info I have found online, the pay is not so good for uber-expensive Sweden.

Any thoughts or opinions greatly appreciated!

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Dave Its an OK school. Theres nothing bad about it, its just average in a lot of ways. Teachers come in to teach their lessons, they leave after the last class for the day. Not a lot of meetings or anything. Not a lot of PD either. The pay is also average, because Sweden just doesnt pay a lot even IS Stockholm, pays little compared to other parts of eur...See More

Mar 7, 2012

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Wanderlust Thanks so much Dave. Not a lot of meetings? That's the school for me!

On 3/07/12, Dave wrote: > Its an OK school. Theres nothing bad about it, its just > average in a lot of ways. Teachers come in to teach their > lessons, they leave after the last class for the day. Not a > lot of meetings or anything. Not a lot of PD either. ...See More

Mar 8, 2012

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Thinking of TESOL

by karon

Mar 15, 2012

Hello, I found this site and am just beginning to search for options. Your feedback is truly appreciated. I am in US and am desiring to travel. I can learn to teach English...I am a natural with grammer and a stickler for the language. I looked into a program in Prague that does not require a BA degree, since I do not have one this looks good. What...See More

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Dave It would be a VERY bad idea, bordering on a scam. You need a degree to qualify for a work visa in Prague, which means this program is essentially hiring you on a tourist visa, which is illegal. Second, you would have zero and I mean no protections. You would also have near zero alternatives about finding a new job or position and in getting approp...See More

Mar 15, 2012

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Censorship

by Dave -> Thomas

Mar 17, 2012

Have you noticed lately how posts just disappear on the "other, other" board? There seems to be this group of new posters that just post to disagree with other posters (mainly me). It doesn't matter what Lu say hey post the opposite, and just write whatever is said is to true.

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Dave Yeah I just reposted what i had saved, but its not even posts i wrote, its yours, and a bunch of others including the ones that boston wrote and one or two other posters. They simply deleted everything going back to March 18th. It happened on the same thread before which is why I originally posted this one. I could understand if it was about adult...See More

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D. Thomas No idea really. Whatever the purpose, it's not consistent. I can only think that they responded to specific complaints about specific threads. But even that doesn't really scan.

On 3/20/12, Dave wrote: > Yeah I just reposted what i had saved, but its not even posts i wrote, > its yours, and a bunch of others including the ones that b...See More

Mar 20, 2012

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Needin' some Lovin'

by Single Intl/Teacher

Apr 1, 2012

Ok, I've been teaching overseas for a few years now and love the lifestyle with the HUGE exception of never having anyone to date. I'd love to get married but am afraid if I stay overseas I'll wind up being an old maid. In fact, I'm 44 years old so I'm already an old maid according to some people. Anyone else experiencing the same frustration? Wres...See More

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D. Thomas I was expecting this to be a post from a man asking where he could teach and really do well picking up girls, so I was pleasantly surprised.

I went overseas married to another teacher so can't really help you much.

I have met quite a few couples (some married) who met overseas, some both teaching, some not. So, I don't know. I am ...See MoreI was expecting this to be a post from a man asking where he could teach and really do well picking up girls, so I was pleasantly surprised.

I went overseas married to another teacher so can't really help you much.

I have met quite a few couples (some married) who met overseas, some both teaching, some not. So, I don't know. I am sure that some places may be better for you than others. Just like some schools (especially larger ones) may have a larger pool of eligible men.

I do see that being back home would generally give you larger pool of possible matches, but there a lot of different factors that play into it.

If you do stay overseas, consider the schools you have been at, the countries you have lived in and what you do to upgrade and/or put yourself out there beyond the people you meet in school (e.g. clubs, gyms, language classes, cooking classes, hiking/traveling groups, sports groups etc).

Good luck with whatever you decide. On 4/01/12, Dave wrote: > Well it really depends where you are? Your not alone though > many ITs (international teachers) who are woman often > complain that the dating pool is non existent. Whereas guys > tend to be better to doing A LOT better. Again depends on the > country, for instance Turkey is a great place for woman to > date, whereas practically everywhere in Asia is great (or at > least better) for guys. > > You need to consider though and not trying to be a jerk or > anything but what makes you think your chances in the USA > would be any better? I havent been back to the states in > about 8 years outside of visiting family briefly, but woman in > their 40's arent exactly on the top of the food chain, and > the whole "Cougar life" is greatly exaggerated unless youve > had a LOT of work done and can really afford to spend a lot > to maintain appearances. Teachers in the USA arent known for > making a lot of money. > > I'd argue that parts of europe are better, but the men that > would be interested in a woman your age wouldnt really be > looking to settle down. It always seems that the good ones > are married (happily or unhappily doesnt really matter, hes > either not available or he isnt going to "really" leave his > wife). > > > On 4/01/12, Single Intl/Teacher wrote: >> Ok, I've been teaching overseas for a few years now and >> love the lifestyle with the HUGE exception of never having >> anyone to date. I'd love to get married but am afraid if I >> stay overseas I'll wind up being an old maid. In fact, I'm >> 44 years old so I'm already an old maid according to some >> people. Anyone else experiencing the same frustration? >> Wrestling with the question of whether to remain in intl. >> teaching or moving back to USA where there would be more >> opportunity to meet someone... >> >>

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