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by Mary

Jan 14, 2011

I applied for the position at Shanghai American School. Please let me know if you see any other openings for a school psychologist at any of the top schools.

We will just have to make the house thing work if I get a job overseas.

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Dave Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like living in "little america".

On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, > but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential > not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not > worth it...See MoreUnless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like living in "little america".

On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, > but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential > not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not > worth it to have to live on a compound. > > On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >> The school actually does post the entire package and it >> does look great, but I thought the international schools >> in Asia were the same. Are they not? For some reason, I >> thought the schools in the middle east paid more, but >> maybe that was only for the locations where there are few >> expats. >> >> >> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> True, but my sources have more details on the package >>> there and it's >>> actually a lot better than the bare salary indicates: >>> Housing and utilities fully covered, +8000 to 10,000 >>> settling in allowance, +18% of your salary towards >>> retirement, +COLA: 8,732-12,083 and of course no US >>> taxes. >>> >>> I have no idea whether it would be a good job or not >>> but it is an advantage to know all of the details when >>> trying to weigh the pros and cons. A single teacher >>> could easily save 20,000 while living pretty well which >>> could never happen here (well in the US I mean). >>> >>>> American School Dubai is expanding to a new campus, >>>> so that could explain the number of vacancies, but I >>>> was not impressed with the salary schedule: Salary >>>> Minimum starting salary: US $35,000 Maximum starting >>>> salary: US $41,500 Maximum salary on scale: US >>>> $48,700 >>>> >>>> One step on the scale for each two years of prior >>>> experience up to a maximum initial placement of step >>>> five. The US dollar base salary is paid in twelve >>>> (12) equal monthly payments and deposited directly >>>> into the employeeï¿½s US or Canadian bank account. >>>> >>>> And interested applicants must be interviewed at one >>>> of the job fairs. I decided not to attend them this >>>> year. >>>> >>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>> The reviews do mention that a very high percentage >>>>> of teachers are leaving this year, because of >>>>> negative changes in the school itself and how >>>>> housing is funded, etc. When I look at available >>>>> openings, there are a LOT for the number of total >>>>> teachers. That worries me. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>> Aw c'mon, its's got American in the name and with >>>>>> a name like American, It's Got To Be Godd! >>>>>> >>>>>> Seriously, though, is that based on recent >>>>>> personal experience or usually reliable rumor, >>>>>> scuttlebutt and innuendo? The reviews on ISR are >>>>>> mixed, but are generally trending towards the >>>>>> good more recently. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/14/11, Dave wrote: >>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend the American School in >>>>>>> Dubai. The compensation package is nice, but >>>>>>> the environment has some shortcomings... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>> At the moment, the only 2 worth considering >>>>>>>> are ISKL (Malaysia) and American School of >>>>>>>> Dubai. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>> I applied for the position at Shanghai >>>>>>>>> American School. Please let me know if you >>>>>>>>> see any other openings for a school >>>>>>>>> psychologist at any of the top schools. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We will just have to make the house thing >>>>>>>>> work if I get a job overseas.

Jan 15, 2011

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D. Thomas Sure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. That's what makes the world an interesting place.

On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: > Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like > living in "little america". > > On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed t...See MoreSure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. That's what makes the world an interesting place.

On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: > Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like > living in "little america". > > On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, >> but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential >> not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not >> worth it to have to live on a compound. >> >> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>> The school actually does post the entire package and it >>> does look great, but I thought the international schools >>> in Asia were the same. Are they not? For some reason, I >>> thought the schools in the middle east paid more, but >>> maybe that was only for the locations where there are few >>> expats. >>> >>> >>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>> True, but my sources have more details on the package >>>> there and it's >>>> actually a lot better than the bare salary indicates: >>>> Housing and utilities fully covered, +8000 to 10,000 >>>> settling in allowance, +18% of your salary towards >>>> retirement, +COLA: 8,732-12,083 and of course no US >>>> taxes. >>>> >>>> I have no idea whether it would be a good job or not >>>> but it is an advantage to know all of the details when >>>> trying to weigh the pros and cons. A single teacher >>>> could easily save 20,000 while living pretty well which >>>> could never happen here (well in the US I mean). >>>> >>>>> American School Dubai is expanding to a new campus, >>>>> so that could explain the number of vacancies, but I >>>>> was not impressed with the salary schedule: Salary >>>>> Minimum starting salary: US $35,000 Maximum starting >>>>> salary: US $41,500 Maximum salary on scale: US >>>>> $48,700 >>>>> >>>>> One step on the scale for each two years of prior >>>>> experience up to a maximum initial placement of step >>>>> five. The US dollar base salary is paid in twelve >>>>> (12) equal monthly payments and deposited directly >>>>> into the employeeï¿½s US or Canadian bank account. >>>>> >>>>> And interested applicants must be interviewed at one >>>>> of the job fairs. I decided not to attend them this >>>>> year. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>> The reviews do mention that a very high percentage >>>>>> of teachers are leaving this year, because of >>>>>> negative changes in the school itself and how >>>>>> housing is funded, etc. When I look at available >>>>>> openings, there are a LOT for the number of total >>>>>> teachers. That worries me. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>> Aw c'mon, its's got American in the name and with >>>>>>> a name like American, It's Got To Be Godd! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seriously, though, is that based on recent >>>>>>> personal experience or usually reliable rumor, >>>>>>> scuttlebutt and innuendo? The reviews on ISR are >>>>>>> mixed, but are generally trending towards the >>>>>>> good more recently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Dave wrote: >>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend the American School in >>>>>>>> Dubai. The compensation package is nice, but >>>>>>>> the environment has some shortcomings... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>> At the moment, the only 2 worth considering >>>>>>>>> are ISKL (Malaysia) and American School of >>>>>>>>> Dubai. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I applied for the position at Shanghai >>>>>>>>>> American School. Please let me know if you >>>>>>>>>> see any other openings for a school >>>>>>>>>> psychologist at any of the top schools. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We will just have to make the house thing >>>>>>>>>> work if I get a job overseas.

Jan 15, 2011

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Dave -> Thomas A lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in the compound, personally it would have driven me nuts.

On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Sure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. > That's what makes the world an interesting place. > > On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: >> Unless compo...See MoreA lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in the compound, personally it would have driven me nuts.

On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Sure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. > That's what makes the world an interesting place. > > On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: >> Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like >> living in "little america". >> >> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, >>> but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential >>> not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not >>> worth it to have to live on a compound. >>> >>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>> The school actually does post the entire package and it >>>> does look great, but I thought the international schools >>>> in Asia were the same. Are they not? For some reason, I >>>> thought the schools in the middle east paid more, but >>>> maybe that was only for the locations where there are few >>>> expats. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>> True, but my sources have more details on the package >>>>> there and it's >>>>> actually a lot better than the bare salary indicates: >>>>> Housing and utilities fully covered, +8000 to 10,000 >>>>> settling in allowance, +18% of your salary towards >>>>> retirement, +COLA: 8,732-12,083 and of course no US >>>>> taxes. >>>>> >>>>> I have no idea whether it would be a good job or not >>>>> but it is an advantage to know all of the details when >>>>> trying to weigh the pros and cons. A single teacher >>>>> could easily save 20,000 while living pretty well which >>>>> could never happen here (well in the US I mean). >>>>> >>>>>> American School Dubai is expanding to a new campus, >>>>>> so that could explain the number of vacancies, but I >>>>>> was not impressed with the salary schedule: Salary >>>>>> Minimum starting salary: US $35,000 Maximum starting >>>>>> salary: US $41,500 Maximum salary on scale: US >>>>>> $48,700 >>>>>> >>>>>> One step on the scale for each two years of prior >>>>>> experience up to a maximum initial placement of step >>>>>> five. The US dollar base salary is paid in twelve >>>>>> (12) equal monthly payments and deposited directly >>>>>> into the employeeï¿½s US or Canadian bank account. >>>>>> >>>>>> And interested applicants must be interviewed at one >>>>>> of the job fairs. I decided not to attend them this >>>>>> year. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>> The reviews do mention that a very high percentage >>>>>>> of teachers are leaving this year, because of >>>>>>> negative changes in the school itself and how >>>>>>> housing is funded, etc. When I look at available >>>>>>> openings, there are a LOT for the number of total >>>>>>> teachers. That worries me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>> Aw c'mon, its's got American in the name and with >>>>>>>> a name like American, It's Got To Be Godd! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seriously, though, is that based on recent >>>>>>>> personal experience or usually reliable rumor, >>>>>>>> scuttlebutt and innuendo? The reviews on ISR are >>>>>>>> mixed, but are generally trending towards the >>>>>>>> good more recently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Dave wrote: >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend the American School in >>>>>>>>> Dubai. The compensation package is nice, but >>>>>>>>> the environment has some shortcomings... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At the moment, the only 2 worth considering >>>>>>>>>> are ISKL (Malaysia) and American School of >>>>>>>>>> Dubai. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I applied for the position at Shanghai >>>>>>>>>>> American School. Please let me know if you >>>>>>>>>>> see any other openings for a school >>>>>>>>>>> psychologist at any of the top schools. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We will just have to make the house thing >>>>>>>>>>> work if I get a job overseas.

Jan 16, 2011

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D. Thomas Well, if the alternative was to have to play Sharia Barbie every time you left the compound I could see that.

On 1/16/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: > A lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in > the compound, personally it would have driven me nuts. > > > On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> Sur...See MoreWell, if the alternative was to have to play Sharia Barbie every time you left the compound I could see that.

On 1/16/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: > A lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in > the compound, personally it would have driven me nuts. > > > On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> Sure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. >> That's what makes the world an interesting place. >> >> On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: >>> Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like >>> living in "little america". >>> >>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>> Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, >>>> but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential >>>> not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not >>>> worth it to have to live on a compound. >>>> >>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>> The school actually does post the entire package and it >>>>> does look great, but I thought the international schools >>>>> in Asia were the same. Are they not? For some reason, I >>>>> thought the schools in the middle east paid more, but >>>>> maybe that was only for the locations where there are few >>>>> expats. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>> True, but my sources have more details on the package >>>>>> there and it's >>>>>> actually a lot better than the bare salary indicates: >>>>>> Housing and utilities fully covered, +8000 to 10,000 >>>>>> settling in allowance, +18% of your salary towards >>>>>> retirement, +COLA: 8,732-12,083 and of course no US >>>>>> taxes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no idea whether it would be a good job or not >>>>>> but it is an advantage to know all of the details when >>>>>> trying to weigh the pros and cons. A single teacher >>>>>> could easily save 20,000 while living pretty well which >>>>>> could never happen here (well in the US I mean). >>>>>> >>>>>>> American School Dubai is expanding to a new campus, >>>>>>> so that could explain the number of vacancies, but I >>>>>>> was not impressed with the salary schedule: Salary >>>>>>> Minimum starting salary: US $35,000 Maximum starting >>>>>>> salary: US $41,500 Maximum salary on scale: US >>>>>>> $48,700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One step on the scale for each two years of prior >>>>>>> experience up to a maximum initial placement of step >>>>>>> five. The US dollar base salary is paid in twelve >>>>>>> (12) equal monthly payments and deposited directly >>>>>>> into the employeeï¿½s US or Canadian bank account. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And interested applicants must be interviewed at one >>>>>>> of the job fairs. I decided not to attend them this >>>>>>> year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>> The reviews do mention that a very high percentage >>>>>>>> of teachers are leaving this year, because of >>>>>>>> negative changes in the school itself and how >>>>>>>> housing is funded, etc. When I look at available >>>>>>>> openings, there are a LOT for the number of total >>>>>>>> teachers. That worries me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>> Aw c'mon, its's got American in the name and with >>>>>>>>> a name like American, It's Got To Be Godd! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seriously, though, is that based on recent >>>>>>>>> personal experience or usually reliable rumor, >>>>>>>>> scuttlebutt and innuendo? The reviews on ISR are >>>>>>>>> mixed, but are generally trending towards the >>>>>>>>> good more recently. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Dave wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend the American School in >>>>>>>>>> Dubai. The compensation package is nice, but >>>>>>>>>> the environment has some shortcomings... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> At the moment, the only 2 worth considering >>>>>>>>>>> are ISKL (Malaysia) and American School of >>>>>>>>>>> Dubai. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I applied for the position at Shanghai >>>>>>>>>>>> American School. Please let me know if you >>>>>>>>>>>> see any other openings for a school >>>>>>>>>>>> psychologist at any of the top schools. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We will just have to make the house thing >>>>>>>>>>>> work if I get a job overseas.

Jan 16, 2011

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Dave Yeah its a different world depending on your gender.

On 1/16/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Well, if the alternative was to have to play Sharia Barbie every time you > left the compound I could see that. > > On 1/16/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: >> A lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in >> ...See MoreYeah its a different world depending on your gender.

On 1/16/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Well, if the alternative was to have to play Sharia Barbie every time you > left the compound I could see that. > > On 1/16/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: >> A lot of the the younger female teachers I've talked to liked staying in >> the compound, personally it would have driven me nuts. >> >> >> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> Sure. And some people actually like prison. Something for everyone. >>> That's what makes the world an interesting place. >>> >>> On 1/15/11, Dave wrote: >>>> Unless compound living is your thing??? Some people I know like >>>> living in "little america". >>>> >>>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>> Actually, I stand corrected. ARAMCO is supposed to be the best, >>>>> but they are actually only paying 70K with a savings potential >>>>> not much different that some of the better schools in Asia. Not >>>>> worth it to have to live on a compound. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>> The school actually does post the entire package and it >>>>>> does look great, but I thought the international schools >>>>>> in Asia were the same. Are they not? For some reason, I >>>>>> thought the schools in the middle east paid more, but >>>>>> maybe that was only for the locations where there are few >>>>>> expats. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/15/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>> True, but my sources have more details on the package >>>>>>> there and it's >>>>>>> actually a lot better than the bare salary indicates: >>>>>>> Housing and utilities fully covered, +8000 to 10,000 >>>>>>> settling in allowance, +18% of your salary towards >>>>>>> retirement, +COLA: 8,732-12,083 and of course no US >>>>>>> taxes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no idea whether it would be a good job or not >>>>>>> but it is an advantage to know all of the details when >>>>>>> trying to weigh the pros and cons. A single teacher >>>>>>> could easily save 20,000 while living pretty well which >>>>>>> could never happen here (well in the US I mean). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> American School Dubai is expanding to a new campus, >>>>>>>> so that could explain the number of vacancies, but I >>>>>>>> was not impressed with the salary schedule: Salary >>>>>>>> Minimum starting salary: US $35,000 Maximum starting >>>>>>>> salary: US $41,500 Maximum salary on scale: US >>>>>>>> $48,700 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One step on the scale for each two years of prior >>>>>>>> experience up to a maximum initial placement of step >>>>>>>> five. The US dollar base salary is paid in twelve >>>>>>>> (12) equal monthly payments and deposited directly >>>>>>>> into the employeeï¿½s US or Canadian bank account. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And interested applicants must be interviewed at one >>>>>>>> of the job fairs. I decided not to attend them this >>>>>>>> year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/15/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>> The reviews do mention that a very high percentage >>>>>>>>> of teachers are leaving this year, because of >>>>>>>>> negative changes in the school itself and how >>>>>>>>> housing is funded, etc. When I look at available >>>>>>>>> openings, there are a LOT for the number of total >>>>>>>>> teachers. That worries me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Aw c'mon, its's got American in the name and with >>>>>>>>>> a name like American, It's Got To Be Godd! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Seriously, though, is that based on recent >>>>>>>>>> personal experience or usually reliable rumor, >>>>>>>>>> scuttlebutt and innuendo? The reviews on ISR are >>>>>>>>>> mixed, but are generally trending towards the >>>>>>>>>> good more recently. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Dave wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend the American School in >>>>>>>>>>> Dubai. The compensation package is nice, but >>>>>>>>>>> the environment has some shortcomings... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment, the only 2 worth considering >>>>>>>>>>>> are ISKL (Malaysia) and American School of >>>>>>>>>>>> Dubai. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/11, Mary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I applied for the position at Shanghai >>>>>>>>>>>>> American School. Please let me know if you >>>>>>>>>>>>> see any other openings for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>> psychologist at any of the top schools. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We will just have to make the house thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> work if I get a job overseas.

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