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by potential immigrant

Jan 21, 2011

Hi everybody! Is there anyone here who knows anything about teaching in New Zealand?

My husband and I are interested in immigrating there. I've seen on various websites that primary school teachers are considered a future growth industry in NZ. We are going to start giving it serious thought in another year or so (we have some things here in the US to finish up), but just at the beginning I'm wondering if anyone can give me info about how hard it is to get a teaching job in NZ. I'm a certified teacher in the US with five years experience, but it's been a long time. I currently work in the health care industry.

I'm curious because a lot of people think there is a teacher shortage in the US but of course there isn't and it is very hard to find jobs here. I'm wondering if it is just hype that you can get a teaching job in NZ.

We love the country and the culture and would like to immigrate there permanently. My husband has connections there and can probably get ...See More

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Dave -> Thomas Thanks Thomas I got that they were interested in officially emigrating to NZ.

On 1/21/11, D. Thomas wrote: > Dave, I think they are actually talking about officially > emigrating to NZ, in which case the procedures and potential > challenges would be very different. If successsful, then yes > there are public schools/areas tha...See More

Jan 21, 2011

D. Thomas Then I'm not sure where you were going with that. IF they could get approved to emigrate THEN they more than likely could get jobs in one of the municipal schools where the shortages are. That would kind of be the whole point. Like I said, TES had a ton of info. on this.

On 1/21/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: > Thanks Thomas I got that th...See More

Jan 22, 2011

Dave -> Thomas Sorry its been a busy week and realize I should have been more detailed. The points needed to qualify for self sponsorship of a working visa are very high. I assumed that since both of them worked, and had jobs that they "needed" too and based on that assumption I concluded that at least one of them would need sponsorship.

On 1/22/11, D. ...See More

Jan 23, 2011

more info from OP Thanks to both of you for being so helpful! Thomas, thanks especially for that website link. I will have a look this weekend, especially the huge thread you mention. Dave, thanks for asking those questions about their school system. I know absolutely nothing about it, so I need to start learning!

Some more information- keep in mind this is...See MoreThanks to both of you for being so helpful! Thomas, thanks especially for that website link. I will have a look this weekend, especially the huge thread you mention. Dave, thanks for asking those questions about their school system. I know absolutely nothing about it, so I need to start learning!

Some more information- keep in mind this is just an emerging plan! We have played around with the point system and get around 160 points which appears pretty good without knowing anymore about it. My husband's job is with an American company, but he has the option to settle in a few places in the next few years and NZ is one of them. So we can easily immigrate there, but he would still be working for an American company. Since we'd like to actually move there long-term, what our rough plan is would be for him to get us there and start earning while I look for employment from someone who would sponser me- either in education or in health care. Then when he retires from the American company, we could stay in NZ on my status. That's the rough plan anyway- obviously we have a lot of research to do. We aren't in any hurry though so I think it could happen.

My question was more general, however. I was simply wondering if there are teaching jobs available- if the market is open. I know that the sorts of schools that people have to work in when they get started aren't the best. It's the same way here in the US and after teaching in American inner city ghettos, I can't imagine that NZ could be worse, especially outside of Auckland. I just wanted to know generally if there are teaching jobs available or if the so-called NZ teaching shortage is a myth like the American teaching shortage is.

My certification is still valid. It's been quite a while since I taught, but as I will not be in a hurry to seek work right away, I thought I could volunteer for a while and do appropriate trainings to transfer to the NZ system and then network for a job that way over a year or two. But if there are no jobs at all, well then better to focus on the health care industry!

Thanks again and I'm sorry my questions are so general in nature. We are only just starting to do research and the two leads that you guys have given me (the website and the info about their school system) give me a good place to start!

On 1/23/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: > Sorry its been a busy week and realize I should have been more detailed. > The points needed to qualify for self sponsorship of a working visa are > very high. I assumed that since both of them worked, and had jobs that > they "needed" too and based on that assumption I concluded that at least > one of them would need sponsorship. > > On 1/22/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> Then I'm not sure where you were going with that. IF they could get >> approved to emigrate THEN they more than likely could get jobs in one >> of the municipal schools where the shortages are. That would kind of >> be the whole point. Like I said, TES had a ton of info. on this. >> >> On 1/21/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: >>> Thanks Thomas I got that they were interested in officially >>> emigrating to NZ. >>> >>> On 1/21/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>> Dave, I think they are actually talking about officially >>>> emigrating to NZ, in which case the procedures and potential >>>> challenges would be very different. If successsful, then yes >>>> there are public schools/areas that have teaching shortages >>>> (usually outside of the large cities). >>>> >>>> There are websites that you can enter your information into and >>>> see how many points you guys would score. Your points will >>>> determine how easy or hard it would be for you to get permission >>>> to emigrate. It would also show you areas you are week in and >>>> things you could do to improve your score. >>>> >>>> Also, on TES, the UK version of T-net, there is a huge thread >>>> about this very subject. Some of the info. will be different >>>> since many posters would be coming from the UK, but it could be >>>> useful. >>>> >>>> [link removed].

Jan 23, 2011

Dave Well that makes it a lot easier to answer. Yes there are real openings that I would describe as a shortage. It is not media hype, the vacancies are there.

On 1/23/11, more info from OP wrote: > Thanks to both of you for being so helpful! Thomas, > thanks especially for > that website link. I will have a look this weekend, > es...See MoreWell that makes it a lot easier to answer. Yes there are real openings that I would describe as a shortage. It is not media hype, the vacancies are there.

On 1/23/11, more info from OP wrote: > Thanks to both of you for being so helpful! Thomas, > thanks especially for > that website link. I will have a look this weekend, > especially the huge thread you mention. Dave, thanks > for asking those questions about their school system. I > know absolutely nothing about it, so I need to start > learning! > > Some more information- keep in mind this is just an > emerging plan! We have played around with the point > system and get around 160 points which appears pretty > good without knowing anymore about it. My husband's job > is with an American company, but he has the option to > settle in a few places in the next few years and NZ is > one of them. So we can easily immigrate there, but he > would still be working for an American company. Since > we'd like to actually move there long-term, what our > rough plan is would be for him to get us there and > start earning while I look for employment from someone > who would sponser me- either in education or in health > care. Then when he retires from the American company, > we could stay in NZ on my status. That's the rough plan > anyway- obviously we have a lot of research to do. We > aren't in any hurry though so I think it could happen. > > My question was more general, however. I was simply > wondering if there are teaching jobs available- if the > market is open. I know that the sorts of schools that > people have to work in when they get started aren't the > best. It's the same way here in the US and after > teaching in American inner city ghettos, I can't > imagine that NZ could be worse, especially outside of > Auckland. I just wanted to know generally if there are > teaching jobs available or if the so-called NZ teaching > shortage is a myth like the American teaching shortage > is. > > My certification is still valid. It's been quite a > while since I taught, but as I will not be in a hurry > to seek work right away, I thought I could volunteer > for a while and do appropriate trainings to transfer to > the NZ system and then network for a job that way over > a year or two. But if there are no jobs at all, well > then better to focus on the health care industry! > > Thanks again and I'm sorry my questions are so general > in nature. We are only just starting to do research and > the two leads that you guys have given me (the website > and the info about their school system) give me a good > place to start! > >> On 1/23/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: Sorry its been a >> busy week and realize I should have been more >> detailed. The points needed to qualify for self >> sponsorship of a working visa are very high. I >> assumed that since both of them worked, and had jobs >> that they "needed" too and based on that >> assumption I concluded that at least one of them >> would need sponsorship. >> >> On 1/22/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> Then I'm not sure where you were going with that. >>> IF they could get approved to emigrate THEN they >>> more than likely could get jobs in one of the >>> municipal schools where the shortages are. That >>> would kind of be the whole point. Like I said, TES >>> had a ton of info. on this. >>> >>>> On 1/21/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: Thanks Thomas I >>>> got that they were interested in officially >>>> emigrating to NZ. >>>> >>>> On 1/21/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>> Dave, I think they are actually talking about >>>>> officially emigrating to NZ, in which case the >>>>> procedures and potential challenges would be >>>>> very different. If successsful, then yes there >>>>> are public schools/areas that have teaching >>>>> shortages (usually outside of the large >>>>> cities). >>>>> >>>>> There are websites that you can enter your >>>>> information into and see how many points you >>>>> guys would score. Your points will determine >>>>> how easy or hard it would be for you to get >>>>> permission to emigrate. It would also show you >>>>> areas you are week in and things you could do >>>>> to improve your score. >>>>> >>>>> Also, on TES, the UK version of T-net, there is >>>>> a huge thread about this very subject. Some of >>>>> the info. will be different since many posters >>>>> would be coming from the UK, but it could be >>>>> useful. >>>>> >>>>> [link removed].

Jan 23, 2011

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