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Singapore

by SDC in Lynwood

Jan 23, 2011

Hi, My husband my have a job opportunity in Singapore. I have a SP.Ed credential and am recently a NBCT. Does anyone know about teaching/volunteering opportunities that exit in this country. Does anyone know how special education is conducted over there? Thank you for you time.

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Dave -> Thomas Sorry Thomas I think were both right, though I wasn't specific. There are special education schools in Singapore. In my experience every country/major city has a special needs schools, I should have made that point. In my post though I was largely referring to special education programs inside general education international/private schools, of whi...See More

Jan 24, 2011

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D. Thomas No offense, but in Davapore maybe you are still completely right. In Singapore, however, there are many private special education schools that teach in English (like I showed in the link) and that hire foreigners. This is actually fairly unique compared to the rest of the world, due to the language of instruction and the sheer number/size of the sc...See More

Jan 24, 2011

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Dave -> Thomas Genesis and Dover Court Prep do have special education, and they do count. There are 18 IBO schools, the DOS school (Singapore American School) and COBIS (UK Ministry of Education) does not list an accredited "British" school in Singapore, though Dover offers a typical UK curriculum. Of those 18 IB schools none of them offer Special Education progr...See MoreGenesis and Dover Court Prep do have special education, and they do count. There are 18 IBO schools, the DOS school (Singapore American School) and COBIS (UK Ministry of Education) does not list an accredited "British" school in Singapore, though Dover offers a typical UK curriculum. Of those 18 IB schools none of them offer Special Education programs and only 2 of them offer learning resource. SAS doent offer Special ed. So not including the Genesis school, as they are solely a special education school there are 3 general education schools that provide special education. So out of 20 schools only 15% of the schools provide any service at all. I'm sorry thats hardly (in my opinion) how I would describe a country that embraces special education.

We keep bumping heads on this and let me suggest that we simply have different standards for our expectations. I dont consider learning resource truly special education (hence why we call it special ed lite). I'm sorry, I value your opinion and consider you a friend. Yes special education exists in Singapore, and there is a school for them but thats because the other schools dont want to deal with special ed. So yes Dover prep is a general educations school that offers full special ed services. One school in 20....

I will say in all honesty though I didnt know Dover Prep had special ed, though I was familiar with it, and I had no clue the Genesis school even existed. Your right though, we just travel in different circles and so have different knowledge basis to draw on.

and experience. On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: > No offense, but in Davapore maybe you are still completely right. In > Singapore, however, there are many private special education schools > that teach in English (like I showed in the link) and that hire > foreigners. This is actually fairly unique compared to the rest of the > world, due to the language of instruction and the sheer number/size of > the schools. > > Also, there is the Genesis School (private special needs school run by > expat) AND Dover Court Prep.(which is a general education > international/private school). They have actual self-contained special > education classes. In their school. I know because I applied to teach > one of them. > > Which part of that are you denying is true? Or are you saying that > those don't count for some reason? > > You are right in that the majority of international schools in > Singapore (like most of the world) do not offer anything beyond > learning support (SPED-lite). > > On 1/24/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: >> Sorry Thomas I think were both right, though I wasn't specific. >> There are special education schools in Singapore. In my experience >> every country/major city has a special needs schools, I should have >> made that point. In my post though I was largely referring to >> special education programs inside general education >> international/private schools, of which no offense, there really >> aren't any as I stated in my original response. >> >> >> On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> Actually that turns out not to be the case. You may not have run >>> in those circles, Dave, but there are a number of special >>> education schools in Singapore run by voluntary welfare >>> organizations. The Pathlight School in particular is supposed to >>> be a large (500 students) and excellent school for high- >>> functioning students with Autism. >>> >>> [link removed].

Jan 25, 2011

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D. Thomas No problem. Davapore actually sounded funnier and less snarky in my head then it did on the screen. I'm the first one to say that int'l schools don't offer real SPED services. If they did I'd have a lot more jobs and parts of the world open to me as my son could get into more schools. Still, we're getting smarter about figuring out how to find arra...See MoreNo problem. Davapore actually sounded funnier and less snarky in my head then it did on the screen. I'm the first one to say that int'l schools don't offer real SPED services. If they did I'd have a lot more jobs and parts of the world open to me as my son could get into more schools. Still, we're getting smarter about figuring out how to find arrangements for him in more places, so after a few years in Beijing, I know I won't have problems finding a job. My wife is getting IB experience and I'm actually running a school that uses the ENC (sort of). Go figure.

On 1/25/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: > Genesis and Dover Court Prep do have special education, and they do count. > There are 18 IBO schools, the DOS school (Singapore American School) and > COBIS (UK Ministry of Education) does not list an accredited "British" > school in Singapore, though Dover offers a typical UK curriculum. Of those > 18 IB schools none of them offer Special Education programs and only 2 of > them offer learning resource. SAS doent offer Special ed. So not including > the Genesis school, as they are solely a special education school there > are 3 general education schools that provide special education. So out of > 20 schools only 15% of the schools provide any service at all. I'm sorry > thats hardly (in my opinion) how I would describe a country that embraces > special education. > > We keep bumping heads on this and let me suggest that we simply have > different standards for our expectations. I dont consider learning > resource truly special education (hence why we call it special ed lite). > I'm sorry, I value your opinion and consider you a friend. Yes special > education exists in Singapore, and there is a school for them but thats > because the other schools dont want to deal with special ed. So yes Dover > prep is a general educations school that offers full special ed services. > One school in 20.... > > I will say in all honesty though I didnt know Dover Prep had special ed, > though I was familiar with it, and I had no clue the Genesis school even > existed. Your right though, we just travel in different circles and so > have different knowledge basis to draw on. > > and experience. On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: >> No offense, but in Davapore maybe you are still completely right. In >> Singapore, however, there are many private special education schools >> that teach in English (like I showed in the link) and that hire >> foreigners. This is actually fairly unique compared to the rest of the >> world, due to the language of instruction and the sheer number/size of >> the schools. >> >> Also, there is the Genesis School (private special needs school run by >> expat) AND Dover Court Prep.(which is a general education >> international/private school). They have actual self-contained special >> education classes. In their school. I know because I applied to teach >> one of them. >> >> Which part of that are you denying is true? Or are you saying that >> those don't count for some reason? >> >> You are right in that the majority of international schools in >> Singapore (like most of the world) do not offer anything beyond >> learning support (SPED-lite). >> >> On 1/24/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: >>> Sorry Thomas I think were both right, though I wasn't specific. >>> There are special education schools in Singapore. In my experience >>> every country/major city has a special needs schools, I should have >>> made that point. In my post though I was largely referring to >>> special education programs inside general education >>> international/private schools, of which no offense, there really >>> aren't any as I stated in my original response. >>> >>> >>> On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>> Actually that turns out not to be the case. You may not have run >>>> in those circles, Dave, but there are a number of special >>>> education schools in Singapore run by voluntary welfare >>>> organizations. The Pathlight School in particular is supposed to >>>> be a large (500 students) and excellent school for high- >>>> functioning students with Autism. >>>> >>>> [link removed].

Jan 25, 2011

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Dave -> Thomas The Davapore joke is so common it doesn't even register on my laugh-o-meter anymore, but I'll give you laugh for effort. (HaHa).

I'm glad changes are happening, In some ways I'm a bit jealous your actually changing things, pushing the envelope. I have to admit in my experience going on 5 years overseas, I've gotten further and further awa...See MoreThe Davapore joke is so common it doesn't even register on my laugh-o-meter anymore, but I'll give you laugh for effort. (HaHa).

I'm glad changes are happening, In some ways I'm a bit jealous your actually changing things, pushing the envelope. I have to admit in my experience going on 5 years overseas, I've gotten further and further away from Special ed exposure (I am certified). Either the schools just dont have it or it's all they have and I've never taught or even been to a special ed school. Maybe thats why I don't really consider learning resource special ed. I've probabley had special ed students who would qualify for services but they were so high functioning that I wouldn't know unless someone told me. My experience with learning resource usually involves a student who is going through adjustment issue (they miss there friends back home and are depressed) or recovering from an injury (a student with a broken leg in a cast and uses crutches) but those are always short term accommodations.

On 1/25/11, D. Thomas wrote: > No problem. Davapore actually sounded funnier and less > snarky in my head > then it did on the screen. I'm the first one to say > that int'l schools don't offer real SPED services. If > they did I'd have a lot more jobs and parts of the > world open to me as my son could get into more schools. > Still, we're getting smarter about figuring out how to > find arrangements for him in more places, so after a > few years in Beijing, I know I won't have problems > finding a job. My wife is getting IB experience and I'm > actually running a school that uses the ENC (sort of). > Go figure. > >> > >> On 1/25/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: Genesis and Dover >> Court Prep do have special education, and they do >> count. There are 18 IBO schools, the DOS school >> (Singapore American School) and COBIS (UK Ministry of >> Education) does not list an accredited >> "British" school in Singapore, though Dover >> offers a typical UK curriculum. Of those 18 IB >> schools none of them offer Special Education programs >> and only 2 of them offer learning resource. SAS doent >> offer Special ed. So not including the Genesis >> school, as they are solely a special education school >> there are 3 general education schools that provide >> special education. So out of 20 schools only 15% of >> the schools provide any service at all. I'm sorry >> thats hardly (in my opinion) how I would describe a >> country that embraces special education. >> >> We keep bumping heads on this and let me suggest that >> we simply have different standards for our >> expectations. I dont consider learning resource truly >> special education (hence why we call it special ed >> lite). I'm sorry, I value your opinion and consider >> you a friend. Yes special education exists in >> Singapore, and there is a school for them but thats >> because the other schools dont want to deal with >> special ed. So yes Dover prep is a general educations >> school that offers full special ed services. One >> school in 20.... >> >> I will say in all honesty though I didnt know Dover >> Prep had special ed, though I was familiar with it, >> and I had no clue the Genesis school even existed. >> Your right though, we just travel in different >> circles and so have different knowledge basis to draw >> on. >> >> and experience. On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>> No offense, but in Davapore maybe you are still >>> completely right. In Singapore, however, there are >>> many private special education schools that teach >>> in English (like I showed in the link) and that >>> hire foreigners. This is actually fairly unique >>> compared to the rest of the world, due to the >>> language of instruction and the sheer number/size >>> of the schools. >>> >>> Also, there is the Genesis School (private special >>> needs school run by expat) AND Dover Court >>> Prep.(which is a general education >>> international/private school). They have actual >>> self-contained special education classes. In their >>> school. I know because I applied to teach one of >>> them. >>> >>> Which part of that are you denying is true? Or are >>> you saying that those don't count for some reason? >>> >>> You are right in that the majority of international >>> schools in Singapore (like most of the world) do >>> not offer anything beyond learning support >>> (SPED-lite). >>> >>>> On 1/24/11, Dave -> Thomas wrote: Sorry Thomas I >>>> think were both right, though I wasn't specific. >>>> There are special education schools in Singapore. >>>> In my experience every country/major city has a >>>> special needs schools, I should have made that >>>> point. In my post though I was largely referring >>>> to special education programs inside general >>>> education international/private schools, of which >>>> no offense, there really aren't any as I stated >>>> in my original response. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/24/11, D. Thomas wrote: >>>>> Actually that turns out not to be the case. You >>>>> may not have run in those circles, Dave, but >>>>> there are a number of special education schools >>>>> in Singapore run by voluntary welfare >>>>> organizations. The Pathlight School in >>>>> particular is supposed to be a large (500 >>>>> students) and excellent school for high- >>>>> functioning students with Autism. >>>>> >>>>> [link removed].

Jan 25, 2011

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