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by Rookie Abroad

Dec 11, 2011

Hello all - I was wondering if anyone can offer some general info. on Int'l. schools. I am pursuing my 1'st Intl. job and was wondering when hiring wraps up for the season. I have been told it is done much earlier than traditional schools gien the time needed to visas, travel arrnagements, etc. I am signed up with Search Assoc. and my advisor says most schools typically hire teaching couples first, and then move to singles (my spouse does not teach and we have no kids). I have applied about 10 schools already and will be attending a job fair in Feb. I'm just curious when I should chalk it up as a no go and pursue other options? I have 15 years exp. (excellent recommendations/credentials) and advanced degrees. I know having no Intl. experience will hurt me I just don't know how much. Any feedback is appreciated.

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Dave WOW, thats a lot of questions. So heres how it works. Most schools start recruiting in November/December when they find out whos leaving and whos coming back. The elite schools tend to scoop up the cream of the crop and couples early. Then around January with the Bangkok fair is when they start looking at filling the teaching couples, and those wit...See MoreWOW, thats a lot of questions. So heres how it works. Most schools start recruiting in November/December when they find out whos leaving and whos coming back. The elite schools tend to scoop up the cream of the crop and couples early. Then around January with the Bangkok fair is when they start looking at filling the teaching couples, and those with IB experience (usually 5 years and up). The with the February fair they pick up the singles with the minimum 2 years experience. Then the third tier schools recruit the leftovers. Its all done by March. Then over the summer you have a final round of hiring for the no shows, and thats it until about December when there is a little mid year and maternity/emergency leave hiring.

10 Schools thats it? Unless thats all the positions there are available, thats not a serious job search. What are you certified in/looking to teach? What regions are you interested in?

If you want a lot of responses not just mine go to the forums at ISR (International school review), and post your question, though there are already a lot of posts as well.

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On 12/11/11, Rookie Abroad wrote: > Hello all - > I was wondering if anyone can offer some general info. on > Int'l. schools. I am pursuing my 1'st Intl. job and was > wondering when hiring wraps up for the season. I have been > told it is done much earlier than traditional schools gien > the time needed to visas, travel arrnagements, etc. I am > signed up with Search Assoc. and my advisor says most > schools typically hire teaching couples first, and then > move to singles (my spouse does not teach and we have no > kids). I have applied about 10 schools already and will be > attending a job fair in Feb. I'm just curious when I > should chalk it up as a no go and pursue other options? I > have 15 years exp. (excellent recommendations/credentials) > and advanced degrees. I know having no Intl. experience > will hurt me I just don't know how much. Any feedback is > appreciated.

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Rookie Abroad Thanks for the info. Dave that's pretty much what I was looking for. Heck, I thought 10 schools by mid Dec. was pretty good. I am willing to pretty much consider anywhere except a desert climate (don't do the heat). I'm basically applying to schools that I think would be a good fit for me and the salary/package is reasonable. I am in a position now...See MoreThanks for the info. Dave that's pretty much what I was looking for. Heck, I thought 10 schools by mid Dec. was pretty good. I am willing to pretty much consider anywhere except a desert climate (don't do the heat). I'm basically applying to schools that I think would be a good fit for me and the salary/package is reasonable. I am in a position now where I do not have to do anything. I'm willing to make some sacrafices given my lack of Intl. exp. but am not willing to start my career over. I kind of feel 15 years of exp. along with my education is worth something. I am certified in english, history, media, journalism, reading/special ed., was an activites coordinator for many years, and have advised many student groups. If the job won't accomplish what I am looking to do, I guess it wasn't meant to be. Thanks again for all the info. and the website referral. I'll check it out.

On 12/11/11, Dave wrote: > WOW, thats a lot of questions. So heres how it works. Most > schools start recruiting in November/December when they find > out whos leaving and whos coming back. The elite schools tend > to scoop up the cream of the crop and couples early. Then > around January with the Bangkok fair is when they start > looking at filling the teaching couples, and those with IB > experience (usually 5 years and up). The with the February > fair they pick up the singles with the minimum 2 years > experience. Then the third tier schools recruit the leftovers. > Its all done by March. Then over the summer you have a final > round of hiring for the no shows, and thats it until about > December when there is a little mid year and > maternity/emergency leave hiring. > > 10 Schools thats it? Unless thats all the positions there are > available, thats not a serious job search. What are you > certified in/looking to teach? What regions are you interested > in? > > If you want a lot of responses not just mine go to the forums > at ISR (International school review), and post your question, > though there are already a lot of posts as well. > > [link removed].

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Dave Can I be honest? Your probably over shooting. I imagine most of the schools your looking at are the "american" schools overseas and most of those are the elite schools. You dont just "walk into' one of those positions. You need IB experience, international experience, certifications, and at least a masters. Youve got some of that but your missing s...See MoreCan I be honest? Your probably over shooting. I imagine most of the schools your looking at are the "american" schools overseas and most of those are the elite schools. You dont just "walk into' one of those positions. You need IB experience, international experience, certifications, and at least a masters. Youve got some of that but your missing some crucial pieces. Its not that your not qualified, its just that these schools get thousands of applications a year all from people just like you. Most of your certifications (with the exception of special ed, called Learning Support or Resource Teacher overseas) are not in very high demand.

Usually a new international teacher starts out at a second tier school somewhere in Asia, then moves up to a first tier school, then around 4-6 years makes the jump to one of the 1st tier schools in the premium regions like europe or Japan. After two years there they move into an "elite" school. So thats 8 years before your where you want to be, if there is something special about your qualifications you can cut about 2 years from that (maybe even in half, if you want to stay in one of the non premium regions).

On 12/11/11, Rookie Abroad wrote: > Thanks for the info. Dave that's pretty much what I was looking > for. Heck, I thought 10 schools by mid Dec. was pretty good. I > am willing to pretty much consider anywhere except a desert > climate (don't do the heat). I'm basically applying to schools > that I think would be a good fit for me and the salary/package is > reasonable. I am in a position now where I do not have to do > anything. I'm willing to make some sacrafices given my lack of > Intl. exp. but am not willing to start my career over. I kind of > feel 15 years of exp. along with my education is worth > something. I am certified in english, history, media, > journalism, reading/special ed., was an activites coordinator for > many years, and have advised many student groups. If the job > won't accomplish what I am looking to do, I guess it wasn't meant > to be. Thanks again for all the info. and the website referral. > I'll check it out. > > On 12/11/11, Dave wrote: >> WOW, thats a lot of questions. So heres how it works. Most >> schools start recruiting in November/December when they find >> out whos leaving and whos coming back. The elite schools tend >> to scoop up the cream of the crop and couples early. Then >> around January with the Bangkok fair is when they start >> looking at filling the teaching couples, and those with IB >> experience (usually 5 years and up). The with the February >> fair they pick up the singles with the minimum 2 years >> experience. Then the third tier schools recruit the leftovers. >> Its all done by March. Then over the summer you have a final >> round of hiring for the no shows, and thats it until about >> December when there is a little mid year and >> maternity/emergency leave hiring. >> >> 10 Schools thats it? Unless thats all the positions there are >> available, thats not a serious job search. What are you >> certified in/looking to teach? What regions are you interested >> in? >> >> If you want a lot of responses not just mine go to the forums >> at ISR (International school review), and post your question, >> though there are already a lot of posts as well. >> >> [link removed].

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