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cheating

by Allison

Feb 2, 2009

Yesterday when grading some things, I found that two girls in my class who sit next to each other had cheated. The spelling test could have been coincidence, but I also found another quiz that was VERY obvious (answered 4 random and incorrect answers from 3 chapters of a book). I told them what it looked like to me, and they both were very defensive even before I had told them what I had found, and told me they did not cheat. I gave them two choices--one was to take a zero on the quiz, the other was to retake the quiz during lunch in a couple of days. After some defiance, both girls decided to re-take the quiz. There was just the one part of the quiz that made me suspicious, so my question is, should I have them just re-take that part, or the whole quiz (about 15 questions)? Or am I doing things wrong altogether?

(5th grade)

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Leah There was just the one part of the quiz that made > me suspicious, so my question is, should I have them just > re-take that part, or the whole quiz

I vole for the whole quiz. You are teaching them an important lesson.

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Feb 3, 2009

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vet teacher I'm a teacher with a very different viewpoint on cheating. My first concern is why did this happen - are these two girls strong students or weak students? Any student who cheats still cares about school in my opinion - if they really didn't care, they wouldn't even bother to cheat. If they're weak students, well, then I'm not so shocked - consisten...See MoreI'm a teacher with a very different viewpoint on cheating. My first concern is why did this happen - are these two girls strong students or weak students? Any student who cheats still cares about school in my opinion - if they really didn't care, they wouldn't even bother to cheat. If they're weak students, well, then I'm not so shocked - consistently weak kids have issues and rarely can we solve those issues in school even though we kind of want everyone to believe we can. Unless your school is very different from mine, I have very strong students and very weak students all in the same room. How can the weak kids possibly keep up?

But maybe your school is different. It must be because if I suspected two kids of cheating here and I couldn't really prove that - I'd be in big trouble making them take a quiz over again. Here I'd have to speak to the Asst. Principal before I could speak to the girls as you did. And he'd never let me make the girls take the entire quiz over - he'd see that as counter productive. But no one including me can tell you what you did was wrong or right - without knowing what you want to accomplish? What's your goal? That directs what you do. What's most important to you? For most teachers, doling out punishment for cheating becomes immediately the most important thing. Figuring out what went wrong that had the kids not knowing what they should know is rarely a concern. But that's my concern and what I do comes from that. > Yesterday when grading some things, I found that two girls > in my class who sit next to each other had cheated. The > spelling test could have been coincidence, but I also > found another quiz that was VERY obvious (answered 4 > random and incorrect answers from 3 chapters of a book). > I told them what it looked like to me, and they both were > very defensive even before I had told them what I had > found, and told me they did not cheat. I gave them two > choices--one was to take a zero on the quiz, the other was > to retake the quiz during lunch in a couple of days. > After some defiance, both girls decided to re-take the > quiz. There was just the one part of the quiz that made > me suspicious, so my question is, should I have them just > re-take that part, or the whole quiz (about 15 > questions)? Or am I doing things wrong altogether? > > (5th grade)

Feb 4, 2009

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