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discipline with rose colored glasses

by Lisa

Feb 26, 2009

What would you do? 1. Child steals another's paper and turn it in with her name on it.

2. After being caught, she write an ugly note tO the paper's owner with "I hate YOU! and some other racial remark. She doesn't give the note to the girl, but the girl knows about the note and its contents.

3. The girl disposes of the note in the trash. You pick it up and read after being informed by another student of the contents of the note.

NIGHTMARE!!!

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a bit of advice What grade level is this? I may have more consideration for a 3rd grader than a 5th grader in a case such as this. I would talk to the girl one on one. Have a paper of her handwriting as well as the one she handed in that was not hers. Explain to her what she did, that it was wrong and why it is wrong. Then address the note, and the racism. If she ...See More

Feb 28, 2009

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- The Teachable Moment Teacher Yes it's no dream but try to look on these things as an opportunity - no kidding. If you can do that, it helps. You and them. The smaller matter is actually stealing the paper - though some would disagree. This is a product of stupidity and - believe it or not, the stealing child still cares about school and its work or she wouldn't have even bothe...See MoreYes it's no dream but try to look on these things as an opportunity - no kidding. If you can do that, it helps. You and them. The smaller matter is actually stealing the paper - though some would disagree. This is a product of stupidity and - believe it or not, the stealing child still cares about school and its work or she wouldn't have even bothered to turn anything in. I have students who if you put a completed A paper in their hand and told them all they had to do was turn it in and they'd get that A, they wouldn't get up from their chair to do it. They're gone, lost, uncaring. At least the stealer still cares and has some energy and planning skills too... even if not good ones. So 1. I'd say that to Ms Stealer - I'm glad you want to get school work turned in but if it's not really yours, then how can I tell how well you've done?? (is the stealer a weak student- that says and explains a lot if so - this kid may need more support to make it through school if she's got weak academic skills) So 2 - I can't tell you where to improve or what you've done well if if it's not your work. And 3 - Sheila did the work and she's been wondering where her paper was. it's stealing even if it's not money. Don't steal - it's wrong and - you get caught. 4. And why are you angry at Sheila? Are you angry at Sheila or angry at yourself? What did Sheila do? 5. I'm glad when you're angry you don't throw things that can hurt someone or say things that will hurt someone but you write things and throw them in the trash. Susan, why couldn't you come to me and talk about how upset you were? You said things in your note that are inappropriate, very inappropriate - we should not use hurtful language like that and you DO NOT ever use language like that again in my classroom - even if it's on a note you throw in the trash. 6. You need to write a note of apology to Sheila- I'll help you. Get a paper and a pencil- now.

Only if Sheila wants a personal apology would I insist on that - not every kid is comfortable with that. And then I'd keep a special eye on Ms. Stealer to see how badly she's struggling. Unless this is a kid with a history of doing that - and that you should have mentioned to us - this kind of thing can be an opportunity to know that a kid needs help. And it was an opportunity for you to teach several lessons here - that clearly needed reteaching. Why we do our own work, why teachers need us to do our own work, stealing is stealing even if it's a paper and not money, how to channel anger, the use of proper language, an apology always follows a misdeed, and your teacher is there to help with all of the above. > > 3. The girl disposes of the note in the trash. You pick > it up and read after being informed by another student of > the contents of the note. > > NIGHTMARE!!!

Mar 4, 2009

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