...See MoreMore and more Virginia historic homes and museums are slashing their budgets by downsizing educational personnel and axing curriculum and standards-based hands-on activities.
Educational departments are being replaced by volunteer docents and self-guided tours.
These changes really do affect the quality of fieldtrips.
The most recent is Gunston Hall and a couple of years ago, Pamplin Historical Park.
If y'all feel that sites such as these should be supporting these people and programs, chime in. Additionally, it might be instructive to all of us if you can share some good/bad experiences or can offer some suggestions.
It's unfortunate that this thread is entitled, 'Beware of Prometour', because it is sticking to a very good company. I've booked with Prometours and it is one of the best companies in North America. The concerns being expressed are indicative of those who either are not seasoned travelers, or who don't read their contracts.
It's unfortunate that this thread is entitled, 'Beware of Prometour', because it is sticking to a very good company. I've booked with Prometours and it is one of the best companies in North America. The concerns being expressed are indicative of those who either are not seasoned travelers, or who don't read their contracts.
If you’re reading this review, it means that you’re considering spending some time abroad to learn a foreign language. I personally spent nine months in two different EF schools. I will get straight to the point: don’t choose EF. It’s a rip-off. I’m not used to criticize, but EF kind of deserves it. Read the following if you want to be co...See MoreIf you’re reading this review, it means that you’re considering spending some time abroad to learn a foreign language. I personally spent nine months in two different EF schools. I will get straight to the point: don’t choose EF. It’s a rip-off. I’m not used to criticize, but EF kind of deserves it. Read the following if you want to be convinced. Sure, they present well, their Internet site looks professional. Don’t be deceived. They are bad; for two main reasons: it’s one of the most expensive language schools, and, most important, you hardly learn. Why? Well, I give you some examples of their way of teaching. Vocabulary: you would spend one whole hour drawing something reminding you a word of the vocab list. The next hour, you would do the same for another word. Then, they would give you the definition of one word (that you’ve never seen before), and you have to guess it. Three hours, three words. Thanks, EF. Ok, that’s some of the worst examples. But overall, the lessons aren’t way more brilliant. You don’t feel like you learn. You’d tell me, it’s only one teacher in one EF. Well, I went to EF Boston and EF Brisbane; I met some people transferring from EF Santa Barbara, Seattle, Sydney, Perth… Result: EF is bad, EF is bad, EF is bad. Really, I’m not exaggerating. Another thing is the cost of the activities offered by EF: three days to NYC, 400$. You go by yourself, 150$; all included. Surfing? EF, 200$, yourself, 80$. I’m not going further, you see the point. They love your money. Why didn’t I quit then? Yep, that’s what I wanted. And they would let you go; but not with your money. I paid like 6500$ for three months. They “made an exception” for me: instead of refunding me nothing, as it’s written in their contract, they were pleased to get me 2700$ back. I would give them only 3800$. Lovely. Last point: I know some fellows who just didn’t improve at all. They came and left with the same level. We’ve got to teach English ourselves. EF’s contribution’s insignificant. The only positive thing is that I got to know friends from all over the world. But for that, there are other languages schools, which are cheaper, and they would actually have to be gifted to do worse than EF. I could’ve added more but it’s already too long. I got to understand why EF attracts so much criticism. Now you’re warned. Choose carefully!
I’m not used to criticize, but EF kind of deserves it. Read the following if you want to be convinced.
Sure, they present well, their Internet site looks professional. Don’t be deceived. They are bad; for two main reasons: it’s one of the most expensive language schools, and, most important, you hardly learn.
Why? Well, I give you some examples of their way of teaching. Vocabulary: you would spend one whole hour drawing something reminding you a word of the vocab list. The next hour, you would do the same for another word. Then, they would give you the definition of one word (that you’ve never seen before), and you have to guess it. Three hours, three words. Thanks, EF. Ok, that’s some of the worst examples. But overall, the lessons aren’t way more brilliant. You don’t feel like you learn.
You’d tell me, it’s only one teacher in one EF. Well, I went to EF Boston and EF Brisbane; I met some people transferring from EF Santa Barbara, Seattle, Sydney, Perth… Result: EF is bad, EF is bad, EF is bad. Really, I’m not exaggerating.
Another thing is the cost of the activities offered by EF: three days to NYC, 400$. You go by yourself, 150$; all included. Surfing? EF, 200$, yourself, 80$. I’m not going further, you see the point. They love your money. Why didn’t I quit then? Yep, that’s what I wanted. And they would let you go; but not with your money. I paid like 6500$ for three months. They “made an exception” for me: instead of refunding me nothing, as it’s written in their contract, they were pleased to get me 2700$ back. I would give them only 3800$. Lovely.
Last point: I know some fellows who just didn’t improve at all. They came and left with the same level. We’ve got to teach English ourselves. EF’s contribution’s insignificant.
The only positive thing is that I got to know friends from all over the world. But for that, there are other languages schools, which are cheaper, and they would actually have to be gifted to do worse than EF.
I could’ve added more but it’s already too long. I got to understand why EF attracts so much criticism. Now you’re warned. Choose carefully!
beverl3y swalwellOn 1/21/15, Kevin N Gavit wrote: > I wish I would have read this before I booked. I have been > on a trip/vacation with EF back when I was in High school. > I was hoping to have the same experience with the Language > school in Paris. That is not the case. > The post from Jack J is 100&37; accurate. Everything was > great unti...See MoreOn 1/21/15, Kevin N Gavit wrote: > I wish I would have read this before I booked. I have been > on a trip/vacation with EF back when I was in High school. > I was hoping to have the same experience with the Language > school in Paris. That is not the case. > The post from Jack J is 100&37; accurate. Everything was > great until I got here. I was lied to about the housing, I > was promised by a staff member to be close to the school > inside the city of Paris. That did not happen, I was > placed with a family 35 minutes by metro away from the > school and outside of the city. I was even told that > because I would be starting in January, that I would have > more options available to me. However once I get here they > tell me that 200 other students arrive the same day and > that I should be happy with where they placed me. I was > also promised a free tablet (iPad) and that I would receive > it once I arrived, however once I got here they told me > that that offer was not available to me. > > All three of the staff members in the Boston office have > lied to me time and time again. > > DO NOT use EF for a language school. There are many better > options available. > On 3/10/11, jack j. wrote: >> If you’re reading this review, it means that you’re >> considering spending some time abroad to learn a foreign >> language. I personally spent nine months in two different >> EF schools. I will get straight to the point: don’t choose >> EF. It’s a rip-off. >> >> I’m not used to criticize, but EF kind of deserves it. > Read >> the following if you want to be convinced. >> >> Sure, they present well, their Internet site looks >> professional. Don’t be deceived. They are bad; for two > main >> reasons: it’s one of the most expensive language schools, >> and, most important, you hardly learn. >> >> Why? Well, I give you some examples of their way of >> teaching. Vocabulary: you would spend one whole hour >> drawing something reminding you a word of the vocab list. >> The next hour, you would do the same for another word. >> Then, they would give you the definition of one word (that >> you’ve never seen before), and you have to guess it. Three >> hours, three words. Thanks, EF. Ok, that’s some of the >> worst examples. But overall, the lessons aren’t way more >> brilliant. You don’t feel like you learn. >> >> You’d tell me, it’s only one teacher in one EF. Well, I >> went to EF Boston and EF Brisbane; I met some people >> transferring from EF Santa Barbara, Seattle, Sydney, > Perth… >> Result: EF is bad, EF is bad, EF is bad. Really, I’m not >> exaggerating. >> >> Another thing is the cost of the activities offered by EF: >> three days to NYC, 400$. You go by yourself, 150$; all >> included. Surfing? EF, 200$, yourself, 80$. I’m not going >> further, you see the point. They love your money. Why >> didn’t I quit then? Yep, that’s what I wanted. And they >> would let you go; but not with your money. I paid like >> 6500$ for three months. They “made an exception” for me: >> instead of refunding me nothing, as it’s written in their >> contract, they were pleased to get me 2700$ back. I would >> give them only 3800$. Lovely. >> >> Last point: I know some fellows who just didn’t improve at >> all. They came and left with the same level. We’ve got to >> teach English ourselves. EF’s contribution’s > insignificant. >> >> The only positive thing is that I got to know friends from >> all over the world. But for that, there are other > languages >> schools, which are cheaper, and they would actually have > to >> be gifted to do worse than EF. >> >> I could’ve added more but it’s already too long. I got to >> understand why EF attracts so much criticism. Now you’re >> warned. Choose carefully!
HostOn 3/10/11, jack j. wrote: > If you’re reading this review, it means that you’re > considering spending some time abroad to learn a foreign > language. I personally spent nine months in two different > EF schools. I will get straight to the point: don’t choose > EF. It’s a rip-off. > > I’m not used to criticize, but E...See MoreOn 3/10/11, jack j. wrote: > If you’re reading this review, it means that you’re > considering spending some time abroad to learn a foreign > language. I personally spent nine months in two different > EF schools. I will get straight to the point: don’t choose > EF. It’s a rip-off. > > I’m not used to criticize, but EF kind of deserves it. Read > the following if you want to be convinced. > > Sure, they present well, their Internet site looks > professional. Don’t be deceived. They are bad; for two main > reasons: it’s one of the most expensive language schools, > and, most important, you hardly learn. > > Why? Well, I give you some examples of their way of > teaching. Vocabulary: you would spend one whole hour > drawing something reminding you a word of the vocab list. > The next hour, you would do the same for another word. > Then, they would give you the definition of one word (that > you’ve never seen before), and you have to guess it. Three > hours, three words. Thanks, EF. Ok, that’s some of the > worst examples. But overall, the lessons aren’t way more > brilliant. You don’t feel like you learn. > > You’d tell me, it’s only one teacher in one EF. Well, I > went to EF Boston and EF Brisbane; I met some people > transferring from EF Santa Barbara, Seattle, Sydney, Perth… > Result: EF is bad, EF is bad, EF is bad. Really, I’m not > exaggerating. > > Another thing is the cost of the activities offered by EF: > three days to NYC, 400$. You go by yourself, 150$; all > included. Surfing? EF, 200$, yourself, 80$. I’m not going > further, you see the point. They love your money. Why > didn’t I quit then? Yep, that’s what I wanted. And they > would let you go; but not with your money. I paid like > 6500$ for three months. They “made an exception” for me: > instead of refunding me nothing, as it’s written in their > contract, they were pleased to get me 2700$ back. I would > give them only 3800$. Lovely. > > Last point: I know some fellows who just didn’t improve at > all. They came and left with the same level. We’ve got to > teach English ourselves. EF’s contribution’s insignificant. > > The only positive thing is that I got to know friends from > all over the world. But for that, there are other languages > schools, which are cheaper, and they would actually have to > be gifted to do worse than EF. > > I could’ve added more but it’s already too long. I got to > understand why EF attracts so much criticism. Now you’re > warned. Choose carefully!
On 3/24/11, Delia Stark wrote: > Just came back from our second trip with Mariden U.S.A. - > excellent company. They are easy to work with, lots of > personal attention. And our tour guide overseas was > phenomenal. Very knowledgeable, personable, and she managed > to make sure that the Louvre honored its commitment to our > group for a tour when they tried to cancel due to employee > illness. Our meals were excellent; often with several > choices for each course -that helped to keep everyone > smiling. And the hotels were well located and very nice - > the one in Paris was really spacious. For the cost (quite > reasonable) we had a trip that was a very high educational, > cultural, and recreational value. I recommend them highly.
You will be totally covered by insurance even if the school does not sponsor the trip. You will be added as an additional insured on their liability insurance and you can be sent a copy. I find this very reassuring. The tours are well run and put together by educators . They will also customize the itinerary. Good Company.
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Does anyone have or know of someone who has an NETC travel voucher they would be willing to sell for a discounted price? It must be valid for use during the summer of 2011.
Marge CostaOn 7/14/14, Marge Costa wrote: > On 10/16/13, Beverly wrote: >> On 4/25/11, Megan wrote: >>> Does anyone have or know of someone who has an NETC > travel >>> voucher they would be willing to sell for a discounted >>> price? It must be valid for use during the summer of 2011. >> >> I have posted my ...See MoreOn 7/14/14, Marge Costa wrote: > On 10/16/13, Beverly wrote: >> On 4/25/11, Megan wrote: >>> Does anyone have or know of someone who has an NETC > travel >>> voucher they would be willing to sell for a discounted >>> price? It must be valid for use during the summer of 2011. >> >> I have posted my NETC voucher on this website for sale. > Good >> for travel through Dec. 2015. Do you know of anyone > who >> might like to purchase? Face value is $625.00, but will sell >> for $500.00. Please respond if you know of anyone who > might >> be able to use this voucher. My son's trip was canceled in >> April, and his teacher moved to Hawaii. We will not be able >> to use this voucher, and we have incurred some unexpected >> medical expenses and REALLY need to sell this. Thank > you. I also have a NETC travel voucher worth $900 that I am willing to sell at a discount. The voucher is good now until 12/31/15. You can reach me at [email removed].