I have subbed this year and found I am really good at teaching HS Math. I went to find out the requirements to become a full time teacher and it would take nearly 3 years full time in addition to my Bachelor's Degree to get credentials. No wonder there is a shortage of math teachers. Sad thing is that I can really teach Algebra and Stats. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I cannot with a family go back to college for 3 years. Thanks
Rodeo- I hear ya. Teaching sounds fun and rewarding but it really is a sucky, underpaid job with massive politics. It is not worth the money. It sounds great...Summers off, etc but when you do work, you work like a dog and are spent. Trying to get any type of support from anyone is next to impossible. I am leaving the profession and my math skills and going into another field. I am done!
On 4/21/08, Rodeo wrote: > How many different programs did you call? I am in San Diego. > I called several different credential programs. I found > several that were 2 year programs. I found one that had an > accelerated one year evening program. I did that one. > > Call around more. Maybe you will find one that is shorter. > But really. If I were you I would't want to do it. Subbing > is a lot different than teaching. If you think you can > reach every math student then you are being unrealistic. > Those few that still struggle with math or just won't do the > work it takes to learn it will still be there no matter how > good you are. It is a really frustrating job. I mean it is a > job where you will be blamed for any student who doesn't > have the ability or work ethic to learn. > > If you teach in any school that isn't high performing then > your classes will be loaded with students who don't have the > math skills for the classes they have been socially promoted > into. Subbing a couple days and having some of them get it > and feeling proud about that is different than having > responsibility for teaching the state standards for a year > and having the students understand it enough to apply it > independently on a test or as part of more complex problems > later. > > If you become a math teacher, you are now entering a broken > world of dysfunctional policies, districts, schools, and > administrations. You can never be good enough of a math > teacher to protect yourself from the dysfunctions of this > sick system or to overcome the sickness to make it really > right for the students either. If you want to go into math, > just do it with your eyes open. > > It is like going into social work. You can't save the world. > You are going to see and experience a lot of nasty, > frustrating things so make sure you can handle that. A good > math teacher can't reach them all anymore than a good social > worker can stop all the babies on their list from being > popped into a microwave to shaken to death or whatever, if > you get what I am trying to say. > > The system works against you and sometimes you will take the > rap for things that aren't your fault--like bad parenting > or bad genetics or bad placement by the counselors or bad > teaching by former teachers or students being passed who > never should have been...Can you work under those conditions?
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On 4/21/08, TC wrote: > I have subbed this year and found I am really good at > teaching HS Math. I went to find out the requirements to > become a full time teacher and it would take nearly 3 years > full time in addition to my Bachelor's Degree to get > credentials. No wonder there is a shortage of math > teachers. Sad thing is that I can really teach Algebra and > Stats. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I cannot > with a family go back to college for 3 years. Thanks
I went to college in Southern California where they told us that many states love to have teachers who are credentialed in CA. Is Colorado not one of them? I don't have contract experience but I have four long terms under my belt, and three were for 6 months. There were no jobs in So Cal so my fiancee and I moved here to Loveland, CO for a new start and fresh teaching opportunites here. I've probably applied for 20 jobs within the last month. Everytime I see a posting, I put in my interest and have had no calls for interviews. Does anyone have any advise? I have a great resume, but not the contract experience.
To get a job you need to know someone up the food chain who likes you. My advice is to sub at every school district in the state that you can, and once you are known at some schools start bringing in gifts and food for the staff, baking them cookies, offering to clean out classrooms or volunteer for them, drive them home or carpool, do anything they want and more. After a while, someone will start offering things back and when a teacher quits or gets fired or dates one of the students, you'll be on their short list.
Just my opinion.
On 4/28/08, TC wrote: > I was in teacher's lounge today and the subs there said that > there are a million applicants for every job. St. Vrain just > laid off 85 teachers and Denver closed a bunch of schools and > laid off a bunch of teachers. Your best bet is to sub and > get to know Principals. CO is tough place to get a teaching > job right now unless you want to do Special Ed or Math *but > you have to be highly qualified for math. > > > On 4/28/08, Natalie wrote: >> I went to college in Southern California where they told >> us that many states love to have teachers who are >> credentialed in CA. Is Colorado not one of them? I don't >> have contract experience but I have four long terms under >> my belt, and three were for 6 months. There were no jobs >> in So Cal so my fiancee and I moved here to Loveland, CO >> for a new start and fresh teaching opportunites here. I've >> probably applied for 20 jobs within the last month. >> Everytime I see a posting, I put in my interest and have >> had no calls for interviews. Does anyone have any >> advise? I have a great resume, but not the contract >> experience.
You do need to get to know people. Here are two examples:
1) A teacher goes out on maternity leave for a couple of months. An education student from a local college applies for the job and takes a semester off to take the job for a couple of months. She does well. The original teacher, who took maternity leave comes back, finishes the year and works most of the next school year. However, her parents get sick back in her home state and she needs to do what is necessary. There are only a couple of weeks left but the original long-term sub takes the job because her college semester is over. The next school year, she gets the full-time position. Most of her colleagues do not have jobs.
2) Another local college education student does his student teaching at a high school. He does fine. For whatever reason, he needed to extend his undergraduate work another semester. But, he stops in whenever he can to help out. He gets no pay, but does odds and ends. This school year, he is hired full-time. Yesterday he also stated that most of his colleagues do not have jobs.
It really doesn’t matter what industry you are in. But, especially in bad times, it’s not what you know or who you know, it’s who knows you.
On 8/27/10, 479 wrote: > This is true, as I've said in other posts. The middle-class is > on the run for their lives. If you still own a home and aren't > a millionaire, you're very blessed. If you have a job with > benefits and can get decent medical care when you need it, it's > a miracle. The schools are trying to figure out whether or not > things will get worse (and they will, sadly) and what and who > they can cut while still trying to maintain what they have and > teach to the test. > > To get a job you need to know someone up the food chain who > likes you. My advice is to sub at every school district in the > state that you can, and once you are known at some schools > start bringing in gifts and food for the staff, baking them > cookies, offering to clean out classrooms or volunteer for > them, drive them home or carpool, do anything they want and > more. After a while, someone will start offering things back > and when a teacher quits or gets fired or dates one of the > students, you'll be on their short list. > > Just my opinion. > > > > On 4/28/08, TC wrote: >> I was in teacher's lounge today and the subs there said that >> there are a million applicants for every job. St. Vrain just >> laid off 85 teachers and Denver closed a bunch of schools and >> laid off a bunch of teachers. Your best bet is to sub and >> get to know Principals. CO is tough place to get a teaching >> job right now unless you want to do Special Ed or Math *but >> you have to be highly qualified for math. >> >> >> On 4/28/08, Natalie wrote: >>> I went to college in Southern California where they told >>> us that many states love to have teachers who are >>> credentialed in CA. Is Colorado not one of them? I don't >>> have contract experience but I have four long terms under >>> my belt, and three were for 6 months. There were no jobs >>> in So Cal so my fiancee and I moved here to Loveland, CO >>> for a new start and fresh teaching opportunites here. I've >>> probably applied for 20 jobs within the last month. >>> Everytime I see a posting, I put in my interest and have >>> had no calls for interviews. Does anyone have any >>> advise? I have a great resume, but not the contract >>> experience.
If you want to teach, I would suggest leaving Colorado. It is flooded with teachers. I think during the economic collapse that hit the state earlier in the decade, thousands went back to college to get Education degree. Thus, there is now a boatload of teachers. I am curious also as to where this so-called shortage of teachers is? Now that California is laying off a ton of teachers, it is going to be a mess for people trying to land jobs in the Western States.
CO is not flooded if you are willing to do Special Ed.
On 5/03/08, Becky wrote: > If you want to teach, I would suggest leaving Colorado. It > is flooded with teachers. I think during the economic > collapse that hit the state earlier in the decade, > thousands went back to college to get Education degree. > Thus, there is now a boatload of teachers. I am curious > also as to where this so-called shortage of teachers is? > Now that California is laying off a ton of teachers, it is > going to be a mess for people trying to land jobs in the > Western States.
I know there are going to be some people who get upset no matter what I say, but here goes anyway. I have wanted to teach since I was sixteen years old and started tutoring high school students. I ended up majoring in science at university and got high paying lab jobs, instead of teaching. I am now going back to school (at night) to finally teach.
The only messages I seem to be hearing from teachers, on this board and others is how much they hate their job. I spoke about this phenomenon to the local school district hiring manager (and this is the point that is going to upset people) and he told me, "since most teachers haven't held another job, they don't know what it is like in the real world and think they are working too much". Before I get really flamed, I should mention that I work 50+ hours a week, 6 days a week at my lab job. I make twice as much as the average teacher, but I also never see my kids and would love to have summers off.
So, please someone tell me that they like their job. I am really getting discourage at all the whiners and really rude people on this (and other) boards.
Please don't make any rude comments, just plain honest answers. If you are upset by my posting, I am sorry.
Don't get discouraged...I absolutely love my job. i teach the little ones and yes some days are frustrating but more ofter there are good days. If you show the kids that you are excited about what you are going to teach them they will get excited too. You set the tone for learning and attitudes in the class. On 5/09/08, Old enough to know some things wrote: > Allison, > As with all things in life there are many sides to every > subject. Many of us that entered Education, have never > really worked in another field so have no other options. > > I student taught in the middle '70's but only was hired full- > time ten years ago. I was able to work part-time while my > kids were little and I enjoyed being an active mother. Life > in the classrooms have changed about 90&37; from what I was > trained to do. Children have also "changed"--lack of > respect, rules at home, problem homes, etc. Students that > were once in special classroom or schools, are now in the > regular classroom. Often these students make teaching very > difficult not only for the teacher but the other students > suffer in what they are able to learn. > > I'm at the age where my peers are able to retire as they are > finding teaching no longer enjoyable and fun as it once > was. It seems as if it is "All work and no play" these days > and I'm afraid it is not only making our kids into "great" > test takers but to finish the saying "makes Jack very dull > boy". They are stressed each day to perform to achieve > goals set to help them do better. > > On the other hand the new crop of teachers are being trained > in a different way focusing on the data results, state > standards, etc. They seem to have a lot of energy...I'm not > sure how long that will last in the long run. > > In my ten years, I've held 4 different positions, 2 I've > really enjoyed, the other 2 are over worked--each should be > 2 positions but budget is limited in education and some wear > many hats. I'll move on when it is time and I feel the next > opportunity is right but for now I like my Admin., staff and > most of the student (often more as individuals than as a > group). Some days are more rewarding than others and I can > only try my best and hope that my students know more than > when they came to me. > > If you have the opportunity to try teaching, do it. That is > the only way you'll know if you like it or not. Try a > second position if the first doesn't work out before giving > up and returning to your current area. Good luck we need > teachers that really enjoy their teaching and their students. > > > On 5/03/08, Allison wrote: >> I am now going back to school (at night) to >> finally teach. >> >> The only messages I seem to be hearing from teachers, on >> this board and others is how much they hate their job. > >> So, please someone tell me that they like their job. I am >> really getting discourage at all the whiners and really >> rude people on this (and other) boards. >> >> Please don't make any rude comments, just plain honest >> answers. If you are upset by my posting, I am sorry. >> >> Allison
Allison, I love my teaching position. I am 56 and am working on my dissertation for my EdD. This will be my 10th year of teaching. There are times that are frustrating but the rewards of knowing that you are training the future leaders of tomorrow, to me makes a big difference. More children are coming from latch-key homes, parents working two and three jobs and I find that children just want to know that you care about them and want them to be successful. Teaching is not an eight hour job. Teaching is not the most high paying position by far but to know that you are making a difference is so important. The greatest reward comes when former students come walking through the door and thank you for what you did to help them.
Good luck in your teaching endeavors.
Brenda
On 5/04/08, Allison wrote: > Wow, thanks everyone for your honest answers. This is exactly what > I was looking for. > > I spoke with the hiring manager before I started school because I > wanted to make sure that he would hire a new 40ish teacher. He > actually told me that 10 years ago he probably would not have > considered it, but experience has taught him that the older > teachers that come from industry tend to stay longer and, just > like the math guy, use their real world experience in the > classroom. > > I would like to hear more, so if anyone else has anything > constructive to add I would really appreciate it. > > Thanks everyone, > Allison
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I'd like to find out if a person who has moved to Texas is a liscensed teacher in Colorado--where she came from. Is there a website that allows you to search with a name to see that person's certifications?
What is this school like to work in? Has there been any conflict among staff or administrators there? Do teachers have freedom to decide what to teach, or do they have to comply with what is dictated for them? What is the principal like? The LRT? The PTA? If I wanted a job, would you recommend this school as a good place to work?
Wow..That is incredible. What district are you in?
On 5/25/08, COLT wrote: > Our local High School has a math opening and received 51 > resumes with a PHD. Does this tell you how flooded Colorado > is? Nuts!
Rodeo-
I hear ya. Teaching sounds fun and rewarding but it really is a
sucky, underpaid job with massive politics. It is not worth the
money. It sounds great...Summers off, etc but when you do work,
you work like a dog and are spent. Trying to get any type of
support from anyone is next to impossible. I am le...See More