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Susan On 8/04/08, unsure wrote:

Many people with credentials are trying to get teaching jobs in Indiana. Many have worked with at risk neglected children/students. Do not assume that public school teachers work short days. Do not assume that teachers have contracts or unions to back them in Indiana. In Indiana it is who you know that gets you a...See MoreOn 8/04/08, unsure wrote:

Many people with credentials are trying to get teaching jobs in Indiana. Many have worked with at risk neglected children/students. Do not assume that public school teachers work short days. Do not assume that teachers have contracts or unions to back them in Indiana. In Indiana it is who you know that gets you a teaching job - not what you know. Subs do not get hired IMO - schools will just keep you subbing. My advice is to stay where you are and just deal - subbing is alot harder than what you are doing and pays much less. > On 8/03/08, Susan wrote: >> On 8/02/08, unsure wrote: > It was not a fly by night program that got me into teaching. I > have a bachelors plus education courses plus student teaching > plus ten years experience with neglected children. Now I > realize how completely unaware people with traditional degrees > are about the programs out there in education that aren't > traditional. I have often worked 12 hour days with children who > have very little home life at all. I enjoyed it - I was hoping > to be considered by the public schools as worthy of interviews > after having proved myself. I am not angry with you or any one > working in public schools. Teachers work hard. I was just > looking for some thoughts from teachers - it sounds like I am > really going to have to sub due to the lack of knowledge and > the anger people have about this type of licensing. Also, > public school teachers be grateful for your union for your > families sakes! > Thanks, Unsure made clear >> >> >> So there are how many unemployed teachers with El Ed licenses >> in Indiana who went through traditional programs and can't >> find a job or are getting laid off and you are complaining? >> >> If you are unhappy - quit! >> >> There are many people who would love to have your job! >> >> I am so tired of people who have gone through these >> alternative programs - griping about doing recess duty and >> working all day! >> >> Do you think there are tons of jobs out there to go to? >> >> Do you think subbing is easy? >> >> Yes go back to Social Work! >> >> Someone else will be glad to have your job! >>> I am a transition to teach grad who has spent 3 years >>> working in the charter schools as an elementary teacher. I >>> have seen 3 different principals in that time. One >>> principal had even less teaching experience than me. I >>> have a proven track record of success with urban kids and >>> have always gotten the scores that earn me a re-hire >>> status (if your class does not achieve within a certain >>> amount improvement on standardized tests in charter >>> schools you are not offered your job the next year). It >>> would be nice to have the things most teachers take for >>> granted like no recess duty, more than a 30 minutes >>> lunch,a plan period each day,and a shorter work day than 7 >>> am to 4pm with only the month of July off. >>> I can't seem to get interviews for the public schools. >>> Does the state or union reps have any idea the >>> pressure/demands that the principals put on the teachers >>> in the charter schools? I hope that this type of schedule >>> does not become the norm for all teachers. >>> I am currently considering 3 options: >>> 1. Go back to another charter school position. >>> 2. Sub or tutor in a public school and hope to get known >>> for next yeat. >>> 3. leave teaching (which I love) and return to social work. >>> >>> Thoughts? Suggestions? (Already watching/applying idoe)

Aug 5, 2008

Marie/IN/5 Have you thought about getting on the sub lists of some of the corporations in your area?

Aug 25, 2008

Art Praxis both tests

by Laurie

Sep 2, 2008

HELP!!! Anything you can email me... Just informed I need to pass the test in two weeks!

Study guides you put together- Copies of all of the tests !!! JUST kidding! Copied all the stuff on the Chatboard but would TRULY appreciate it if anyone could email me with additional notes, photos, ets. Truly!

Transition to Teaching - Business Ed

by Jennifer

Sep 5, 2008

Hello!

I'm actually writing on behalf of my better half, who's looking into the TTT programs for Business Education. Has anyone out there gone through this process? He's finding it a more twisted route than expected, and we were wondering if anyone has ever successfully pulled this off and, if so, how.

Thanks in advance for your h...See More

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Almost forgot... Forgot to add please also tell him to look at getting his vocational business endorsement. He can take the classes he needs for it online from Indiana State or on campus at Ball State. He will need outside-of-education work experience to add it as well (not in marketing or self-employment). It will allow him to teach more business classes, includin...See MoreForgot to add please also tell him to look at getting his vocational business endorsement. He can take the classes he needs for it online from Indiana State or on campus at Ball State. He will need outside-of-education work experience to add it as well (not in marketing or self-employment). It will allow him to teach more business classes, including Work co-op, etc. Some Indiana schools now won't even interview without the endorsement, it is that important to those schools now. He can do it on the tail end of his coursework, or just after he is done. It is my understanding he has to have the business ed on his license before it can be added.

On 9/06/08, IN Teacher wrote: > Depends on your definition of "twisted" Most TTT programs now > have programs to help people get some of their education > classes and classes they might be needing in their major area > for the Indiana certification, but at one point they all have > the person take time off of their full time job to student > teach. This is because that is required, to my knowledge from > what I was told, no way around that. Which makes sense. That > experience is needed, and not having it is a slap in the face > for those of us that took the "traditional" route. We are in > a profession, and that (to me) is like asking doctors not to > go through residency. I would not want to go to a doctor that > didn't do that! > > Tell your better half though that the business ed cert is a > good option though if he is serious about doing this for his > career. I know for a fact there was a shortage of positions > this year in business education, some schools even started the > school year with emergency subs. If he's willing to look and > move statewide, he will have options when he is done. If you > are locked into the larger areas (Indy, Fort Wayne, etc) it > will be more challenging. > > Good luck. > > On 9/05/08, Jennifer wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I'm actually writing on behalf of my better half, who's >> looking into the TTT programs for Business Education. Has >> anyone out there gone through this process? He's finding >> it a more twisted route than expected, and we were >> wondering if anyone has ever successfully pulled this off >> and, if so, how. >> >> Thanks in advance for your help! >> Jennifer

Sep 6, 2008

Currently in TTT As somcone who currently is in Business Ed Transition to Teaching, I can tell you first hand what you need to do. (your husband, anyways). The only transition to teaching program around where I live (Mishawaka, IN) is at Bethel College, and that is currently where I am attending. They have a year long program, but before you get accepted, I totally...See MoreAs somcone who currently is in Business Ed Transition to Teaching, I can tell you first hand what you need to do. (your husband, anyways). The only transition to teaching program around where I live (Mishawaka, IN) is at Bethel College, and that is currently where I am attending. They have a year long program, but before you get accepted, I totally recommend getting a transcript review to make sure there are no more classes that need to be taken or anything. Next, your husband will need to take two tests before he can get admitted, which are the Praxis 1 and the Praxis 2: Business Education. The first Praxis is given at Sylvan learning center in Mishawaka, down the road from UP mall, I'm not sure of other locations, but you can google praxis and they will have more information. The second Praxis is only taken a few times a year, and they have different locations he can take that as well, this is a paper and pencil test, which is unlike the first one, which is a computer test. This is about 2 or 3 hours long, I forget by now, but it's over general basic knowledge, if you go on the Praxis website, your husband can download a study guide to go by.

Also, to get in, you will need 2 letters of reference..actually, if you want to check it out, it gives you all of the details at bethelcollege.edu. That is a much better resource and you can get phone numbers to call people. The program runs from May to May, so the next starting program wouldn't be until next May, but I totally advise getting started as soon as possible so he can make sure he has everything by then. I love the program, it is set up wonderfully and the professors are great. In the fall semester, you have 80 hours of field work that are expected and in the spring, you do student teach like the person above mentioned. So there is that timeframe where you would want to either have someone to help support you and work on the weekends or I'm not sure what. If you have any other questions, I am going through it right now, and I also have a friend that went through it for the same thing a couple of years ago, that's how I found out about the program, you can email me if you would like. I hope this has been helpful. Sorry so long.

On 9/06/08, Almost forgot... wrote: > Forgot to add please also tell him to look at getting his > vocational business endorsement. He can take the classes he > needs for it online from Indiana State or on campus at Ball > State. He will need outside-of-education work experience to add > it as well (not in marketing or self-employment). It will allow > him to teach more business classes, including Work co-op, etc. > Some Indiana schools now won't even interview without the > endorsement, it is that important to those schools now. He can > do it on the tail end of his coursework, or just after he is > done. It is my understanding he has to have the business ed on > his license before it can be added. > > On 9/06/08, IN Teacher wrote: >> Depends on your definition of "twisted" Most TTT programs now >> have programs to help people get some of their education >> classes and classes they might be needing in their major area >> for the Indiana certification, but at one point they all have >> the person take time off of their full time job to student >> teach. This is because that is required, to my knowledge from >> what I was told, no way around that. Which makes sense. That >> experience is needed, and not having it is a slap in the face >> for those of us that took the "traditional" route. We are in >> a profession, and that (to me) is like asking doctors not to >> go through residency. I would not want to go to a doctor that >> didn't do that! >> >> Tell your better half though that the business ed cert is a >> good option though if he is serious about doing this for his >> career. I know for a fact there was a shortage of positions >> this year in business education, some schools even started the >> school year with emergency subs. If he's willing to look and >> move statewide, he will have options when he is done. If you >> are locked into the larger areas (Indy, Fort Wayne, etc) it >> will be more challenging. >> >> Good luck. >> >> On 9/05/08, Jennifer wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I'm actually writing on behalf of my better half, who's >>> looking into the TTT programs for Business Education. Has >>> anyone out there gone through this process? He's finding >>> it a more twisted route than expected, and we were >>> wondering if anyone has ever successfully pulled this off >>> and, if so, how. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your help! >>> Jennifer

Sep 6, 2008

Okay have Teacher licensing in Indiana under rules 46-47.

Have to go back to school every 5 years and take classes - 6 credit hours.

My area of licensing is Elementary Education.

Today a teacher told me that she didn't have to take classes under rules 2002 - just take any Praxis exam she wants to - to be certified to teac...See More

Certification question

by Lucy

Sep 8, 2008

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Teacher I don't know much about Rules 2002, but I do hold a 46-47 and I wouldn't get too psyched on thinking a test will renew your license. I would seriously have her ask, ask, ask on that. Something just doesn't seem right about this for a renewal.

Every time I have needed to renew my 46-47, it has been classes (I never wanted to professionalize...See More

Sep 9, 2008

New Teacher I am a new teacher under Rules 2002. For any teacher to add an additional area of certification under 2002, they must first take the required coursework as required by the state and then pass the Praxis II exam for that certification. The list of courses required for each area can be found on the state's education website.

On 9/09/08, Teac...See More

Sep 14, 2008

Teacher for Business department../another for choir..

by susan

Sep 9, 2008

We need 2 teachers...1 for business ( will be 1 of two teacher department-award winning!) and a part time choir teacher is needed - for maternity leave....contact Tri-County school corp. north of Lafayette.....White County.

susa again...... On 9/09/08, susan wrote: > We need 2 teachers...1 for business ( will be 1 of two > teacher department-award winning!) and a part time choir > teacher is needed - for maternity leave....contact Tri-County > school corp. north of Lafayette.....White County.

Sep 12, 2008

2008 Art Praxis II - Have the questions /answers changed?

by Eddie

Sep 10, 2008

I've noticed how all of these posts rank a year or so old. I'm looking to take the test in Oct in MD since the General Ed scene sucks here and I want a change of pace. Love art and very good with 1st grade, but technical stuff I am not very good with unless it's a notable painting. Have the questions and answers changed at all does anyone know? I w...See More

Eddie By posts, I'm refering to the page long thread on this site I googled which had several questions, answers, and advice from 06-07.

On 9/10/08, Eddie wrote: > I've noticed how all of these posts rank a year or so old. > I'm looking to take the test in Oct in MD since the > General Ed scene sucks here and I want a change of pace. &g...See More

Sep 10, 2008

Indiana History sites

by Julia IN4

Sep 10, 2008

Does anyone know of a good site for projects/lesson on teaching Indian History? Thanks, Julia

Cy4ret Have you tried to "google" Indiana history lesson plans or just indiana history.

Sep 15, 2008

Art content helpful tips (I passed)

by Robby

Sep 20, 2008

I used the "holy grail" from this site and I also picked up copies of " art forms" and the " annotated mona lisa", all of those sources are key to passing the first time. The art forms book and the annotated mona lisa have some of the information that you need for this test!!! Good luck to all of you.