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Charter School Drop Out

by unsure

Aug 2, 2008

I am a transition to teach grad who has spent 3 years working in the charter schools as an elementary teacher. I have seen 3 different principals in that time. One principal had even less teaching experience than me. I have a proven track record of success with urban kids and have always gotten the scores that earn me a re-hire status (if your class does not achieve within a certain amount improvement on standardized tests in charter schools you are not offered your job the next year). It would be nice to have the things most teachers take for granted like no recess duty, more than a 30 minutes lunch,a plan period each day,and a shorter work day than 7 am to 4pm with only the month of July off. I can't seem to get interviews for the public schools. Does the state or union reps have any idea the pressure/demands that the principals put on the teachers in the charter schools? I hope that this type of schedule does not become the norm for all teachers. I am currently considering 3 options...See More

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Susan On 8/02/08, unsure wrote:

So there are how many unemployed teachers with El Ed licenses in Indiana who went through traditional programs and can't find a job or are getting laid off and you are complaining?

If you are unhappy - quit!

There are many people who would love to have your job!

I am so tired of people ...See More

Aug 3, 2008

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unsure On 8/03/08, Susan wrote: > On 8/02/08, unsure wrote: It was not a fly by night program that got me into teaching. I have a bachelors plus education courses plus student teaching plus ten years experience with neglected children. Now I realize how completely unaware people with traditional degrees are about the programs out there in education tha...See MoreOn 8/03/08, Susan wrote: > On 8/02/08, unsure wrote: It was not a fly by night program that got me into teaching. I have a bachelors plus education courses plus student teaching plus ten years experience with neglected children. Now I realize how completely unaware people with traditional degrees are about the programs out there in education that aren't traditional. I have often worked 12 hour days with children who have very little home life at all. I enjoyed it - I was hoping to be considered by the public schools as worthy of interviews after having proved myself. I am not angry with you or any one working in public schools. Teachers work hard. I was just looking for some thoughts from teachers - it sounds like I am really going to have to sub due to the lack of knowledge and the anger people have about this type of licensing. Also, public school teachers be grateful for your union for your families sakes! Thanks, Unsure made clear > > > So there are how many unemployed teachers with El Ed licenses > in Indiana who went through traditional programs and can't > find a job or are getting laid off and you are complaining? > > If you are unhappy - quit! > > There are many people who would love to have your job! > > I am so tired of people who have gone through these > alternative programs - griping about doing recess duty and > working all day! > > Do you think there are tons of jobs out there to go to? > > Do you think subbing is easy? > > Yes go back to Social Work! > > Someone else will be glad to have your job! >> I am a transition to teach grad who has spent 3 years >> working in the charter schools as an elementary teacher. I >> have seen 3 different principals in that time. One >> principal had even less teaching experience than me. I >> have a proven track record of success with urban kids and >> have always gotten the scores that earn me a re-hire >> status (if your class does not achieve within a certain >> amount improvement on standardized tests in charter >> schools you are not offered your job the next year). It >> would be nice to have the things most teachers take for >> granted like no recess duty, more than a 30 minutes >> lunch,a plan period each day,and a shorter work day than 7 >> am to 4pm with only the month of July off. >> I can't seem to get interviews for the public schools. >> Does the state or union reps have any idea the >> pressure/demands that the principals put on the teachers >> in the charter schools? I hope that this type of schedule >> does not become the norm for all teachers. >> I am currently considering 3 options: >> 1. Go back to another charter school position. >> 2. Sub or tutor in a public school and hope to get known >> for next yeat. >> 3. leave teaching (which I love) and return to social work. >> >> Thoughts? Suggestions? (Already watching/applying idoe)

Aug 4, 2008

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Susan On 8/04/08, unsure wrote:

Many people with credentials are trying to get teaching jobs in Indiana. Many have worked with at risk neglected children/students. Do not assume that public school teachers work short days. Do not assume that teachers have contracts or unions to back them in Indiana. In Indiana it is who you know that gets you a...See MoreOn 8/04/08, unsure wrote:

Many people with credentials are trying to get teaching jobs in Indiana. Many have worked with at risk neglected children/students. Do not assume that public school teachers work short days. Do not assume that teachers have contracts or unions to back them in Indiana. In Indiana it is who you know that gets you a teaching job - not what you know. Subs do not get hired IMO - schools will just keep you subbing. My advice is to stay where you are and just deal - subbing is alot harder than what you are doing and pays much less. > On 8/03/08, Susan wrote: >> On 8/02/08, unsure wrote: > It was not a fly by night program that got me into teaching. I > have a bachelors plus education courses plus student teaching > plus ten years experience with neglected children. Now I > realize how completely unaware people with traditional degrees > are about the programs out there in education that aren't > traditional. I have often worked 12 hour days with children who > have very little home life at all. I enjoyed it - I was hoping > to be considered by the public schools as worthy of interviews > after having proved myself. I am not angry with you or any one > working in public schools. Teachers work hard. I was just > looking for some thoughts from teachers - it sounds like I am > really going to have to sub due to the lack of knowledge and > the anger people have about this type of licensing. Also, > public school teachers be grateful for your union for your > families sakes! > Thanks, Unsure made clear >> >> >> So there are how many unemployed teachers with El Ed licenses >> in Indiana who went through traditional programs and can't >> find a job or are getting laid off and you are complaining? >> >> If you are unhappy - quit! >> >> There are many people who would love to have your job! >> >> I am so tired of people who have gone through these >> alternative programs - griping about doing recess duty and >> working all day! >> >> Do you think there are tons of jobs out there to go to? >> >> Do you think subbing is easy? >> >> Yes go back to Social Work! >> >> Someone else will be glad to have your job! >>> I am a transition to teach grad who has spent 3 years >>> working in the charter schools as an elementary teacher. I >>> have seen 3 different principals in that time. One >>> principal had even less teaching experience than me. I >>> have a proven track record of success with urban kids and >>> have always gotten the scores that earn me a re-hire >>> status (if your class does not achieve within a certain >>> amount improvement on standardized tests in charter >>> schools you are not offered your job the next year). It >>> would be nice to have the things most teachers take for >>> granted like no recess duty, more than a 30 minutes >>> lunch,a plan period each day,and a shorter work day than 7 >>> am to 4pm with only the month of July off. >>> I can't seem to get interviews for the public schools. >>> Does the state or union reps have any idea the >>> pressure/demands that the principals put on the teachers >>> in the charter schools? I hope that this type of schedule >>> does not become the norm for all teachers. >>> I am currently considering 3 options: >>> 1. Go back to another charter school position. >>> 2. Sub or tutor in a public school and hope to get known >>> for next yeat. >>> 3. leave teaching (which I love) and return to social work. >>> >>> Thoughts? Suggestions? (Already watching/applying idoe)

Aug 5, 2008

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Marie/IN/5 Have you thought about getting on the sub lists of some of the corporations in your area?

Aug 25, 2008

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