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Expired Teaching Certificate

by Molly

Mar 5, 2010

I have been certified as a teacher in MA since 1992. My certificate recently expired without me realizing it. I am just wondering what I need to do to reinstate it. I have not been a full-time elementary teacher in awhile but have kept up with tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about this?

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Ridiculous? On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: > to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will > investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a > private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I > have since found out I can just apply for recertification as if my > certificate had not expired. I have some ...See MoreOn 3/19/10, Molly wrote: > to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will > investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a > private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I > have since found out I can just apply for recertification as if my > certificate had not expired. I have some PDPs but will probably > need to earn more in order to fulfill the requirement. Thanks again. > > On 3/18/10, certifiedteach wrote: >> I was certified back in 1989. Taught for many years in CT, and >> then raised kids. Kept my certifications active along the way. >> Two years ago, as I returned to full time teaching, I took the >> Gen. Curric. MTEL since I am certified in Elementary and this >> is the only way now to get "Highly Qualified" designation. It >> was tough, but even after 20 years away from taking tests, I >> was able to pass on my first try (and the results page showed I >> didn't just barely pass or anything "most answers correct" or >> whatever it was for all areas of the test!). I teach in a >> private school, so it isn't that I need the HQ status, but I >> figured if I wanted to interview for public school, it would >> help to show I have already passed the ridiculous test, which >> had nothing to do with actual teaching! >> >> >> >> On 3/05/10, Molly wrote: >>> I have been certified as a teacher in MA since 1992. My >>> certificate recently expired without me realizing it. I am >>> just wondering what I need to do to reinstate it. I have not >>> been a full-time elementary teacher in awhile but have kept >>> up with tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about this?

I disagree that the test has "nothing to do with actual teaching." Part of teaching is knowing the content. This test at least attempts to determine if Elementary School teachers know the content sufficiently well to teach it. We may wish we did not have to take it, but I know that if my child was is someone's classroom, I'd like to be confident that someone checked to see if they know the content.

It's certainly just as important to have a caring individual who understands pedagogy teaching the student, but your statement makes it seem as though content knowledge is unnecessary. Tell that to the thousands of students who can't problem solve (with or without a computer) even at the college level. 50% of community college students have to take remedial courses and I don't think it's because their teachers weren't caring. It's because, in SOME cases, their teachers took it upon themselves to decide that, since they themselves didn't understand it well, it wasn't important for Suzie or Johnny to know a particular concept well either.

I am glad you passed on the first try, and you seem rightfully proud of that. Our students deserve teachers who value both content and pedagogy.

Jun 3, 2012

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anon On 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: > On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: >> to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will >> investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a >> private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I >> have since found out I can just apply for recertification as...See MoreOn 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: > On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: >> to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will >> investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a >> private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I >> have since found out I can just apply for recertification as if my >> certificate had not expired. I have some PDPs but will probably >> need to earn more in order to fulfill the requirement. Thanks again. >> >> On 3/18/10, certifiedteach wrote: >>> I was certified back in 1989. Taught for many years in CT, and >>> then raised kids. Kept my certifications active along the way. >>> Two years ago, as I returned to full time teaching, I took the >>> Gen. Curric. MTEL since I am certified in Elementary and this >>> is the only way now to get "Highly Qualified" designation. It >>> was tough, but even after 20 years away from taking tests, I >>> was able to pass on my first try (and the results page showed I >>> didn't just barely pass or anything "most answers correct" or >>> whatever it was for all areas of the test!). I teach in a >>> private school, so it isn't that I need the HQ status, but I >>> figured if I wanted to interview for public school, it would >>> help to show I have already passed the ridiculous test, which >>> had nothing to do with actual teaching! >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/05/10, Molly wrote: >>>> I have been certified as a teacher in MA since 1992. My >>>> certificate recently expired without me realizing it. I am >>>> just wondering what I need to do to reinstate it. I have not >>>> been a full-time elementary teacher in awhile but have kept >>>> up with tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about this? > > > I disagree that the test has "nothing to do with actual teaching." > Part of teaching is knowing the content. This test at least attempts > to determine if Elementary School teachers know the content > sufficiently well to teach it. We may wish we did not have to take > it, but I know that if my child was is someone's classroom, I'd like > to be confident that someone checked to see if they know the content. > > It's certainly just as important to have a caring individual who > understands pedagogy teaching the student, but your statement makes > it seem as though content knowledge is unnecessary. Tell that to the > thousands of students who can't problem solve (with or without a > computer) even at the college level. 50% of community college > students have to take remedial courses and I don't think it's because > their teachers weren't caring. It's because, in SOME cases, their > teachers took it upon themselves to decide that, since they > themselves didn't understand it well, it wasn't important for Suzie > or Johnny to know a particular concept well either. > > I am glad you passed on the first try, and you seem rightfully proud > of that. Our students deserve teachers who value both content and > pedagogy.

The content is provided for you by the materials you get. You HAVE to know the nuts and bolts of teaching elementary kids. College and remedial have NOTHING to do with elementary education. Teachers there are generalists, not specialists as in secondary ed. No advanced knowledge of mathematics or classical literature is needed. You are just peddling garbage, ignorant garbage. Elementary teachers need to know HOW to teach more than WHAT to teach. BTW, do you really think teachers actually memorize everything they learned in college? Get a clue

Jun 3, 2012

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Math Teach Hey "anon": if you want to knowwhat clueless is, look in the mirror. Sure glad you weren't my math teacher.

Oh and I did have to memorize what I learned in college, otherwise I would have had a rather difficult time getting my M.A. in classic math.

On 6/03/12, anon wrote: > On 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: >> On 3/19/10, ...See MoreHey "anon": if you want to knowwhat clueless is, look in the mirror. Sure glad you weren't my math teacher.

Oh and I did have to memorize what I learned in college, otherwise I would have had a rather difficult time getting my M.A. in classic math.

On 6/03/12, anon wrote: > On 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: >> On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: >>> to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will >>> investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a >>> private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I >>> have since found out I can just apply for recertification as if my >>> certificate had not expired. I have some PDPs but will probably >>> need to earn more in order to fulfill the requirement. Thanks again. >>> >>> On 3/18/10, certifiedteach wrote: >>>> I was certified back in 1989. Taught for many years in CT, and >>>> then raised kids. Kept my certifications active along the way. >>>> Two years ago, as I returned to full time teaching, I took the >>>> Gen. Curric. MTEL since I am certified in Elementary and this >>>> is the only way now to get "Highly Qualified" designation. It >>>> was tough, but even after 20 years away from taking tests, I >>>> was able to pass on my first try (and the results page showed I >>>> didn't just barely pass or anything "most answers correct" or >>>> whatever it was for all areas of the test!). I teach in a >>>> private school, so it isn't that I need the HQ status, but I >>>> figured if I wanted to interview for public school, it would >>>> help to show I have already passed the ridiculous test, which >>>> had nothing to do with actual teaching! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/05/10, Molly wrote: >>>>> I have been certified as a teacher in MA since 1992. My >>>>> certificate recently expired without me realizing it. I am >>>>> just wondering what I need to do to reinstate it. I have not >>>>> been a full-time elementary teacher in awhile but have kept >>>>> up with tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about this? >> >> >> I disagree that the test has "nothing to do with actual teaching." >> Part of teaching is knowing the content. This test at least attempts >> to determine if Elementary School teachers know the content >> sufficiently well to teach it. We may wish we did not have to take >> it, but I know that if my child was is someone's classroom, I'd like >> to be confident that someone checked to see if they know the content. >> >> It's certainly just as important to have a caring individual who >> understands pedagogy teaching the student, but your statement makes >> it seem as though content knowledge is unnecessary. Tell that to the >> thousands of students who can't problem solve (with or without a >> computer) even at the college level. 50% of community college >> students have to take remedial courses and I don't think it's because >> their teachers weren't caring. It's because, in SOME cases, their >> teachers took it upon themselves to decide that, since they >> themselves didn't understand it well, it wasn't important for Suzie >> or Johnny to know a particular concept well either. >> >> I am glad you passed on the first try, and you seem rightfully proud >> of that. Our students deserve teachers who value both content and >> pedagogy. > > > The content is provided for you by the materials you get. You HAVE to > know the nuts and bolts of teaching elementary kids. College and > remedial have NOTHING to do with elementary education. Teachers there > are generalists, not specialists as in secondary ed. No advanced > knowledge of mathematics or classical literature is needed. You are > just peddling garbage, ignorant garbage. Elementary teachers need to > know HOW to teach more than WHAT to teach. BTW, do you really think > teachers actually memorize everything they learned in college? Get a > clue

Jul 23, 2012

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anon No, dummy, you don't "memorize" the content you learned in college. You plan the lessons, not just walk in and wing it. Your college professors did the same.

I can tell you aren't a real teacher at all, just an idiot posing as one.

On 7/23/12, Math Teach wrote: > Hey "anon": if you want to knowwhat clueless is, look in the mi...See MoreNo, dummy, you don't "memorize" the content you learned in college. You plan the lessons, not just walk in and wing it. Your college professors did the same.

I can tell you aren't a real teacher at all, just an idiot posing as one.

On 7/23/12, Math Teach wrote: > Hey "anon": if you want to knowwhat clueless is, look in the mirror. > Sure glad you weren't my math teacher. > > Oh and I did have to memorize what I learned in college, otherwise I would > have had a rather difficult time getting my M.A. in classic math. > > On 6/03/12, anon wrote: >> On 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: >>> On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: >>>> to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your response. I will >>>> investigate where I can take the MTE. I too may be teaching in a >>>> private school, but want to maintain a highly qualified status. I >>>> have since found out I can just apply for recertification as if my >>>> certificate had not expired. I have some PDPs but will probably >>>> need to earn more in order to fulfill the requirement. Thanks again. >>>> >>>> On 3/18/10, certifiedteach wrote: >>>>> I was certified back in 1989. Taught for many years in CT, and >>>>> then raised kids. Kept my certifications active along the way. >>>>> Two years ago, as I returned to full time teaching, I took the >>>>> Gen. Curric. MTEL since I am certified in Elementary and this >>>>> is the only way now to get "Highly Qualified" designation. It >>>>> was tough, but even after 20 years away from taking tests, I >>>>> was able to pass on my first try (and the results page showed I >>>>> didn't just barely pass or anything "most answers correct" or >>>>> whatever it was for all areas of the test!). I teach in a >>>>> private school, so it isn't that I need the HQ status, but I >>>>> figured if I wanted to interview for public school, it would >>>>> help to show I have already passed the ridiculous test, which >>>>> had nothing to do with actual teaching! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/05/10, Molly wrote: >>>>>> I have been certified as a teacher in MA since 1992. My >>>>>> certificate recently expired without me realizing it. I am >>>>>> just wondering what I need to do to reinstate it. I have not >>>>>> been a full-time elementary teacher in awhile but have kept >>>>>> up with tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about this? >>> >>> >>> I disagree that the test has "nothing to do with actual teaching." >>> Part of teaching is knowing the content. This test at least attempts >>> to determine if Elementary School teachers know the content >>> sufficiently well to teach it. We may wish we did not have to take >>> it, but I know that if my child was is someone's classroom, I'd like >>> to be confident that someone checked to see if they know the content. >>> >>> It's certainly just as important to have a caring individual who >>> understands pedagogy teaching the student, but your statement makes >>> it seem as though content knowledge is unnecessary. Tell that to the >>> thousands of students who can't problem solve (with or without a >>> computer) even at the college level. 50% of community college >>> students have to take remedial courses and I don't think it's because >>> their teachers weren't caring. It's because, in SOME cases, their >>> teachers took it upon themselves to decide that, since they >>> themselves didn't understand it well, it wasn't important for Suzie >>> or Johnny to know a particular concept well either. >>> >>> I am glad you passed on the first try, and you seem rightfully proud >>> of that. Our students deserve teachers who value both content and >>> pedagogy. >> >> >> The content is provided for you by the materials you get. You HAVE to >> know the nuts and bolts of teaching elementary kids. College and >> remedial have NOTHING to do with elementary education. Teachers > there >> are generalists, not specialists as in secondary ed. No advanced >> knowledge of mathematics or classical literature is needed. You are >> just peddling garbage, ignorant garbage. Elementary teachers need to >> know HOW to teach more than WHAT to teach. BTW, do you really think >> teachers actually memorize everything they learned in college? > Get a >> clue

Jul 23, 2012

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Math Teach Don't call me a dummy, when I'm the one with a graduate degree in math, and you were the ED major....

Bite me

On 7/23/12, anon wrote: > No, dummy, you don't "memorize" the content > you learned in college. You plan > the lessons, not just walk in and wing it. Your college > professors did the same. > > I can tell...See MoreDon't call me a dummy, when I'm the one with a graduate degree in math, and you were the ED major....

Bite me

On 7/23/12, anon wrote: > No, dummy, you don't "memorize" the content > you learned in college. You plan > the lessons, not just walk in and wing it. Your college > professors did the same. > > I can tell you aren't a real teacher at all, just an > idiot posing as one. > > On 7/23/12, Math Teach wrote: >> Hey "anon": if you want to knowwhat >> clueless is, look in the mirror. Sure glad you >> weren't my math teacher. >> >> Oh and I did have to memorize what I learned in >> college, otherwise I would have had a rather >> difficult time getting my M.A. in classic math. >> >> On 6/03/12, anon wrote: >>> On 6/03/12, Ridiculous? wrote: >>>> On 3/19/10, Molly wrote: >>>>> to certifiedteach - Thanks so much for your >>>>> response. I will investigate where I can take >>>>> the MTE. I too may be teaching in a private >>>>> school, but want to maintain a highly qualified >>>>> status. I have since found out I can just apply >>>>> for recertification as if my certificate had >>>>> not expired. I have some PDPs but will probably >>>>> need to earn more in order to fulfill the >>>>> requirement. Thanks again. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/18/10, certifiedteach wrote: >>>>>> I was certified back in 1989. Taught for many >>>>>> years in CT, and then raised kids. Kept my >>>>>> certifications active along the way. Two >>>>>> years ago, as I returned to full time >>>>>> teaching, I took the Gen. Curric. MTEL since >>>>>> I am certified in Elementary and this is the >>>>>> only way now to get "Highly >>>>>> Qualified" designation. It was tough, >>>>>> but even after 20 years away from taking >>>>>> tests, I was able to pass on my first try >>>>>> (and the results page showed I didn't just >>>>>> barely pass or anything "most answers >>>>>> correct" or whatever it was for all >>>>>> areas of the test!). I teach in a private >>>>>> school, so it isn't that I need the HQ >>>>>> status, but I figured if I wanted to >>>>>> interview for public school, it would help to >>>>>> show I have already passed the ridiculous >>>>>> test, which had nothing to do with actual >>>>>> teaching! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/05/10, Molly wrote: >>>>>>> I have been certified as a teacher in MA >>>>>>> since 1992. My certificate recently expired >>>>>>> without me realizing it. I am just >>>>>>> wondering what I need to do to reinstate >>>>>>> it. I have not been a full-time elementary >>>>>>> teacher in awhile but have kept up with >>>>>>> tutoring. Anyone know how I should go about >>>>>>> this? >>>> >>>> >>>> I disagree that the test has "nothing to do >>>> with actual teaching." Part of teaching is >>>> knowing the content. This test at least attempts >>>> to determine if Elementary School teachers know >>>> the content sufficiently well to teach it. We may >>>> wish we did not have to take it, but I know that >>>> if my child was is someone's classroom, I'd like >>>> to be confident that someone checked to see if >>>> they know the content. >>>> >>>> It's certainly just as important to have a caring >>>> individual who understands pedagogy teaching the >>>> student, but your statement makes it seem as >>>> though content knowledge is unnecessary. Tell >>>> that to the thousands of students who can't >>>> problem solve (with or without a computer) even >>>> at the college level. 50% of community college >>>> students have to take remedial courses and I >>>> don't think it's because their teachers weren't >>>> caring. It's because, in SOME cases, their >>>> teachers took it upon themselves to decide that, >>>> since they themselves didn't understand it well, >>>> it wasn't important for Suzie or Johnny to know a >>>> particular concept well either. >>>> >>>> I am glad you passed on the first try, and you >>>> seem rightfully proud of that. Our students >>>> deserve teachers who value both content and >>>> pedagogy. >>> >>> >>> The content is provided for you by the materials >>> you get. You HAVE to know the nuts and bolts of >>> teaching elementary kids. College and remedial have >>> NOTHING to do with elementary education. Teachers >> there >>> are generalists, not specialists as in secondary >>> ed. No advanced knowledge of mathematics or >>> classical literature is needed. You are just >>> peddling garbage, ignorant garbage. Elementary >>> teachers need to know HOW to teach more than WHAT >>> to teach. BTW, do you really think teachers >>> actually memorize everything they learned in >>> college? >> Get a >>> clue

Jul 28, 2012

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