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questions about sub teachers

by sandy

Jul 12, 2008

does anyone no the salary of sub teachers.How many days out the week do you think that one will work?

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nancy baltinsky On 7/23/08, suzy wrote: > Wish you were on the other side of MO. I'm on the Mo/KS border and > our district pays $105 for one day or short term jobs. After 20 > days on the same job it goes to $155 per day. I did a long-term > SPED job last spring and made almost $600 for 40 days. And it was > pretty low stress....no homework, papers...See More

Jul 23, 2008

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suzy OOOPS..... make that $ 6000

guess that's I get for mentioning salary...

On 7/23/08, suzy wrote: > Wish you were on the other side of MO. I'm on the Mo/KS border and > our district pays $105 for one day or short term jobs. After 20 > days on the same job it goes to $155 per day. I did a long-term > SPED job last sprin...See More

Jul 24, 2008

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questions about sub teachers

by sandy

Jul 12, 2008

does anyone know the salary of sub teachers.How many days out the week do you think that one will work?

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Can I teach / get a job?

by Bill

Jul 14, 2008

Hello and thank you in advance to anyone who can help. I am an adult college student studying to be a special education teacher. I recently reviewed the Department of Educations application for Missouri Teachers License and now have a great concern. Section D Professional conduct part A, of Section 1 asks “Have you ever been charged with, convict...See MoreHello and thank you in advance to anyone who can help. I am an adult college student studying to be a special education teacher. I recently reviewed the Department of Educations application for Missouri Teachers License and now have a great concern. Section D Professional conduct part A, of Section 1 asks “Have you ever been charged with, convicted or entered a plea, including a plea of nolo contendere, to any felony or misdemeanor whether or not sentence was imposed or suspended, except minor traffic violations?” I knew that a person who was convicted of a felony or who had plead guilty to a felony would likely not be able to teach but I was shocked to see that the application specifically asked if you had ever been charged with a crime. Several years ago, I was charged for a crime I did not commit. The criminal charges came from a complaint my former spouse made against me to the police while in the context of a highly contested divorce involving child custody. I was subsequently acquitted (unanimously found to be not guilty) and eventually a jury unanimously found my former spouse guilty of having made the criminal allegation against me while knowing at the time the criminal allegation was not true and for having done so with evil motive. Her allegation was not a mistake of any kind. (the court called this malicious prosecution for which she was found unanimously guilty). There is no way I can prove myself more innocent than this outcome. I have never plead guilty to a crime, I have never been convicted of any crime and have never been charged with a crime aside from this one horrible instance discussed above which I was cleared of. I read the Missouri State Statute having to do with teacher certification and it states that a teacher may be denied a license to teach if they have been convicted of a crime or have ever plead guilty to a crime. I could not find any language about having once been charged with a crime. However, I doubt the Department of Education is asking, on its application for initial certification, if I have ever been charged with a crime for no reason. I feel that I should answer the question in the affirmative because that is the true response according to the wording of the question and I am an honest person. I was innocent and was cleared of the charge and I feel that my simply answering the question in the affirmative may unfairly prevent me from obtaining a teachers license. Does anyone know if this would be the case? Also, I fear that my having to answer the question in the affirmative may prevent me from being able to find a good job. If I was an employing school district I would certainly be concerned about hiring a person who “had been charged with a crime”. An employing school district would have to be patient enough and open minded enough to hear my entire story (A story I would rather not even have to tell because it unfairly reflects negatively upon me) and review the jury verdicts, etc.. to understand that I was wrongly accused and have been vindicated. Do you think most schools will be willing to even consider me for employment? Thanks to all for taking the time to read my question and for any information you can provide.

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and you should be fine. nfm On 7/14/08, Bill wrote: > Hello and thank you in advance to anyone who can help. I > am an adult college student studying to be a special > education teacher. I recently reviewed the Department of > Educations application for Missouri Teachers License and > now have a great concern. Section D Professional conduct > part A, of Sect...See MoreOn 7/14/08, Bill wrote: > Hello and thank you in advance to anyone who can help. I > am an adult college student studying to be a special > education teacher. I recently reviewed the Department of > Educations application for Missouri Teachers License and > now have a great concern. Section D Professional conduct > part A, of Section 1 asks “Have you ever been charged > with, convicted or entered a plea, including a plea of > nolo contendere, to any felony or misdemeanor whether or > not sentence was imposed or suspended, except minor > traffic violations?” I knew that a person who was > convicted of a felony or who had plead guilty to a felony > would likely not be able to teach but I was shocked to see > that the application specifically asked if you had ever > been charged with a crime. Several years ago, I was > charged for a crime I did not commit. The criminal > charges came from a complaint my former spouse made > against me to the police while in the context of a highly > contested divorce involving child custody. I was > subsequently acquitted (unanimously found to be not > guilty) and eventually a jury unanimously found my former > spouse guilty of having made the criminal allegation > against me while knowing at the time the criminal > allegation was not true and for having done so with evil > motive. Her allegation was not a mistake of any kind. (the > court called this malicious prosecution for which she was > found unanimously guilty). There is no way I can prove > myself more innocent than this outcome. I have never > plead guilty to a crime, I have never been convicted of > any crime and have never been charged with a crime aside > from this one horrible instance discussed above which I > was cleared of. I read the Missouri State Statute having > to do with teacher certification and it states that a > teacher may be denied a license to teach if they have been > convicted of a crime or have ever plead guilty to a > crime. I could not find any language about having once > been charged with a crime. However, I doubt the > Department of Education is asking, on its application for > initial certification, if I have ever been charged with a > crime for no reason. I feel that I should answer the > question in the affirmative because that is the true > response according to the wording of the question and I am > an honest person. I was innocent and was cleared of the > charge and I feel that my simply answering the question in > the affirmative may unfairly prevent me from obtaining a > teachers license. Does anyone know if this would be the > case? Also, I fear that my having to answer the question > in the affirmative may prevent me from being able to find > a good job. If I was an employing school district I would > certainly be concerned about hiring a person who “had been > charged with a crime”. An employing school district would > have to be patient enough and open minded enough to hear > my entire story (A story I would rather not even have to > tell because it unfairly reflects negatively upon me) and > review the jury verdicts, etc.. to understand that I was > wrongly accused and have been vindicated. Do you think > most schools will be willing to even consider me for > employment? Thanks to all for taking the time to read my > question and for any information you can provide. >

Jul 14, 2008

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Robin I've been teaching in Missouri for a few years, when this background check came into being, some very good teachers lost their certification because of previous convictions and charges. I would ask the state department directly, you may not be allowed to get your certification. Here's another scenerio, I was charged with a misdemeanor. which should...See MoreI've been teaching in Missouri for a few years, when this background check came into being, some very good teachers lost their certification because of previous convictions and charges. I would ask the state department directly, you may not be allowed to get your certification. Here's another scenerio, I was charged with a misdemeanor. which should not be a problem. But I had to defend my teaching certificate because the state department thought my misdemeanor was "immoral turpitude". I went through a very messy divorce. These charges where not brought on by a background check, I just got a letter from the state department and a hearing date. I presented my case myself, I took legal documents, copies of court hearings that I received my misdemeanor from, it took a few months to hear from the state department but the charges where dropped. You have to educate yourself and what the law can and cannot do. Robin

On 7/14/08, Bill wrote: > Hello and thank you in advance to anyone who can help. I > am an adult college student studying to be a special > education teacher. I recently reviewed the Department of > Educations application for Missouri Teachers License and > now have a great concern. Section D Professional conduct > part A, of Section 1 asks “Have you ever been charged > with, convicted or entered a plea, including a plea of > nolo contendere, to any felony or misdemeanor whether or > not sentence was imposed or suspended, except minor > traffic violations?” I knew that a person who was > convicted of a felony or who had plead guilty to a felony > would likely not be able to teach but I was shocked to see > that the application specifically asked if you had ever > been charged with a crime. Several years ago, I was > charged for a crime I did not commit. The criminal > charges came from a complaint my former spouse made > against me to the police while in the context of a highly > contested divorce involving child custody. I was > subsequently acquitted (unanimously found to be not > guilty) and eventually a jury unanimously found my former > spouse guilty of having made the criminal allegation > against me while knowing at the time the criminal > allegation was not true and for having done so with evil > motive. Her allegation was not a mistake of any kind. (the > court called this malicious prosecution for which she was > found unanimously guilty). There is no way I can prove > myself more innocent than this outcome. I have never > plead guilty to a crime, I have never been convicted of > any crime and have never been charged with a crime aside > from this one horrible instance discussed above which I > was cleared of. I read the Missouri State Statute having > to do with teacher certification and it states that a > teacher may be denied a license to teach if they have been > convicted of a crime or have ever plead guilty to a > crime. I could not find any language about having once > been charged with a crime. However, I doubt the > Department of Education is asking, on its application for > initial certification, if I have ever been charged with a > crime for no reason. I feel that I should answer the > question in the affirmative because that is the true > response according to the wording of the question and I am > an honest person. I was innocent and was cleared of the > charge and I feel that my simply answering the question in > the affirmative may unfairly prevent me from obtaining a > teachers license. Does anyone know if this would be the > case? Also, I fear that my having to answer the question > in the affirmative may prevent me from being able to find > a good job. If I was an employing school district I would > certainly be concerned about hiring a person who “had been > charged with a crime”. An employing school district would > have to be patient enough and open minded enough to hear > my entire story (A story I would rather not even have to > tell because it unfairly reflects negatively upon me) and > review the jury verdicts, etc.. to understand that I was > wrongly accused and have been vindicated. Do you think > most schools will be willing to even consider me for > employment? Thanks to all for taking the time to read my > question and for any information you can provide. >

Jul 31, 2008

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looking for a job in O'Fallon, MO

by Amanda Lewis

Jul 15, 2008

I currently teach first grade in St. Louis city. Last year I moved to O'Fallon, MO. I enjoy living in this area, but the commute is very difficult. I have applied to several surrounding school districts (Fort Zumwalt, Wentzville, Francis Howell, and St. Charles). I haven't had a single interview. Any suggestions on what I can do to get my foot in t...See More

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Missy I would suggest you expand your horizons. There are several other school districts within 35 minutes or so from your area. Have you tried these districts- Troy, Warrenton ? I would consider applying for a few smaller ones as well that are a bit past O'Fallon such as Winfield. Even Hazelwood or Ferguson-Florissant is much closer than your current co...See More

Jul 20, 2008

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M Don't feel bad. I think they're a little snooty out here. I've been teaching for 17 years and I didn't even get an interview with Ft. Z which is where I wanted to teach because my children go there. I also didn't get any calls from St. Charles. I interviewed in Wentzville and had a bad experience. I'm in Francis Howell, which is a little better. I ...See More

Jul 26, 2008

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MSTA Discounts

by kaleigh

Jul 21, 2008

I just wanted to let you all know that MSTA has great discounts, my fav is to Choice Hotels 20% off. Go to the MSTA website to get the code to enter when reserving your room. THere are also some others such as Barnes & Noble.

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sub pay

by Leslie

Jul 26, 2008

I am considering a move to the West Plains area in the near future, and am interested in substitute teaching. I have subbed for 10 years, mostly long-term positions K-5, and am degreed but not certified. What is the pay schedule for substitutes in the West Plains area?

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jen On 7/26/08, Leslie wrote: > I am considering a move to the West Plains area in the > near future, and am interested in substitute teaching. I > have subbed for 10 years, mostly long-term positions K-5, > and am degreed but not certified. What is the pay > schedule for substitutes in the West Plains area?

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Aug 14, 2008

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what's up with talk of 4 day week?

by terri

Jul 28, 2008

I have been hearing on radio that state school board is discussing 4 day work week for schools due to fuel costs. What do you think? will this ever happen?

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Robin From what I read, legislation has to be passed first before school districts can even decide. This was started last year but never went anywhere. There has been legislation started for it for this school year. Robin

On 7/28/08, but, no it won't happen wrote: > too many costs would be pushed on to the parents and they > wouldn't have ...See More

Jul 31, 2008

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Rosylinn This has happened in other states, but it takes a while for it to be put into place. It was brought up as a way to reduce costs in our district, but it never went anywhere.

On 7/31/08, Robin wrote: > From what I read, legislation has to be passed first before > school districts can even decide. This was started last year but > nev...See More

Aug 21, 2008

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MO Gov...who is for the teachers and students??

by Trying to figure it out

Jul 29, 2008

Ok...can anyone else find info on these two running for Governor and would be the best choice? What I have found in a local newspaper:

Steelman--Wants to work to do away with the MAP testing in Missouri

Hulshof--Wants to increase funding to education.

(Is there a way to combine both of these candidates??) I would really l...See More

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Addie/mo Here is what it said on his web site about education: "As Attorney General, Jay has seen first-hand the problems facing Missouri public schools. He knows that many of our school buildings are in poor shape, we need more technology in the classroom, our teachers are vastly underpaid, and too many of our children are dropping out of high school. Simp...See More

Aug 1, 2008

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tom You want to give kids in missouri a equate chance start with removeing Paddling. Missouri is one of only 21 states to allow it missouri ranbks in the top 3 in paddlings. thats why kids are dropping out and missouri test scores are far under national average. MISSOURI KIDS ARE BEING ABUSE in SCHOOL>

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Oct 7, 2008

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FergFlor School District

by Newbie

Aug 1, 2008

I have been offered a middle school position with the FergFlor school district. I am not from around this area and would like any input into the district anyone can give me. Thanks

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chuck in the district My opinion or two cents for whatever it's worth - rough > area...keep looking I worked in a school district with > similar demographics and it was a long year. > > Some wealthier districts that may be more difficult to get > into, but would be desirable... Parkway, Rockwood, > Pattonville, Lindbergh, Kirkwood or across the river i...See More

Oct 18, 2008

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Chris On 10/18/08, chuck in the district wrote:

I have worked in the district for 15 years. What I have learned over the years is that every district has its own issues. You will have some good years and others that are more challenging but it is what you make of it. I have taken classes with teachers from all over St. Louis. They all have the ...See More

May 26, 2009

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