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Standard 6 removed

by A

Apr 27, 2016

I just heard this morning that Standard 6 is being removed from our Evaluation Instrument. This is a positive thing since Standard 6 doesn't actually measure our personal performance as teachers.

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A Hmmm ... I can believe that. My information came straight from my principal, and I don't think he'd just go around saying things that aren't true; however, if this thing has essentially been hidden elsewhere, he could have been fooled.

Apr 27, 2016

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caution On 4/27/16, A wrote: > Hmmm ... I can believe that. My information came straight from > my principal, and I don't think he'd just go around saying > things that aren't true; however, if this thing has essentially > been hidden elsewhere, he could have been fooled.

Believe whatever you like. This has been discussed for months. O...See More

Apr 28, 2016

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Tenure Question

by High School Teacher

Apr 18, 2016

I had tenure in my other district and then moved to a new district. However, I moved in the summer of 2014. The NC Public School Benefits and Employment manual states that an employee loses their career status "if a career status employee leaves the LEA in which he/she had career status prior to July 1st, 2013" Therefore, if the employee ...See More

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Staying positive Basically they are reaffirming the change whereby teachers can only have earned career status before that date. Any move away from the LEA in which the status was earned by that date removes career status entirely.

It's disgusting.

On 4/18/16, High School Teacher wrote: > I had tenure in my other district and then moved to a ne...See More

Apr 20, 2016

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A First, you don't have Tenure. You have/had Career Status. This is important because the general public sees this as actual Tenure, and they disapprove of it. We need to be clear on what we actually have.

Second, as someone else said, yes, this is just a poke to remind us that if we move from one job to another, we lose Career Status. It's...See More

Apr 25, 2016

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Question about Tenure

by 4thGradeTeacher

Mar 18, 2016

I am completely confused, and a few of my colleagues are too. A friend of mine says that when your teaching license renews, you no longer have tenure. Every teacher will have had their license renew by 2018. I thought that for those who already had tenure, the recent lawsuit ruling said that it was unconstitutional to take tenure away. Tenure is do...See More

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A Well, first, no one in K-12 education actually has tenure. What we have is "Career Status", which means we don't have to sign a new contract each year and cannot be fired without due process /evidence that we've actually done something wrong. Actual tenure is something college professors can have.

As for what's commonly termed &...See More

Mar 18, 2016

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High School Teacher On 3/18/16, 4thGradeTeacher wrote: > I am completely confused, and a few of my colleagues are > too. A friend of mine says that when your teaching license > renews, you no longer have tenure. Every teacher will have > had their license renew by 2018. I thought that for those > who already had tenure, the recent lawsuit ruling said th...See More

Apr 18, 2016

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National Average?

by weneedaraise

Mar 30, 2016

How are we the 8th most populous state and the narrative only calls for getting us paid to the national average? If we're becoming such a great state to live in then why should we only be average?

Why are we not easily paid in the top 15? Why should we be average?

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union yes Unintended consequences. Government overreach without reasoning. Single women were mostly teachers-who cares about them, they were just waiting for husbands anyway.

Apr 12, 2016

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A On 4/12/16, union yes wrote:
> Unintended consequences. Government overreach without
> reasoning. Single women were mostly teachers-who cares
> about them, they were just waiting for husbands anyway.

Yes, unintended consequences.

I do think that's a part of how we ended up in this
situation. I had a gre...See More

Apr 14, 2016

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Spending on Education

by Bill M

Mar 29, 2016

It is amazing that North Carolina's Governor can pay overtime to the Highway Patrol to catch speeders going 1 mile over the limit but cannot afford to pay our teachers a wage that keeps them out of the bottom 4&37; for our country's educators.

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Authoritarians in control of NC On 3/29/16, Bill M wrote: > It is amazing that North Carolina's Governor can pay > overtime to the Highway Patrol to catch speeders going 1 > mile over the limit but cannot afford to pay our teachers > a wage that keeps them out of the bottom 4&37; for our > country's educators.

Amazing yes, surprising no. NC Highway Pat...See More

Mar 29, 2016

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A Oh, that's easy to explain:

When officers write more tickets, the state collects more money; not only can they pay the overtime, they make money. When they pay teachers, the state spends more money.

If you're looking at this superficially from a money-only point of view, and if you're not concerned about keeping teachers happy /...See More

Mar 29, 2016

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Bill excludes teacher pay

by from public records

Mar 24, 2016

The GA is not done with teacher's and maybe admin salaries yet.

"Courtesy of Ed NC’s Alex Granados, N.C. Rep. Paul Stam, a Republican from Wake County who served as one of the primary sponsors on yesterday’s highly controversial anti- LGBT bill, is expected to file legislation soon that includes a sweeping set of changes for teach...See More

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tls And thank you , for your vote. >

Mar 24, 2016

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A Questions:

- How is this connected to the "highly controversial anti-LGBT bill"?

- Do we really care whether salaries are public knowledge? I don't.

- Is jealousy among teachers a big issue? I don't think so. For example, when the legislature attempted that ill-fated "sell your tenure for $500" proj...See MoreQuestions:

- How is this connected to the "highly controversial anti-LGBT bill"?

- Do we really care whether salaries are public knowledge? I don't.

- Is jealousy among teachers a big issue? I don't think so. For example, when the legislature attempted that ill-fated "sell your tenure for $500" project a few years ago, I didn't see anyone at my school jumping to get it, much less begrudging the money to anyone else. Recently the younger teachers have received big raises. I haven't heard a single older teacher speak against this -- oh, we all want a share of the pie ourselves, but no one's upset with or jealous of the younger teachers.

This jealousy thing sounds like the legislature is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Another example of them failing to listen to us.

On 3/24/16, from public records wrote: > The GA is not done with teacher's and maybe admin salaries > yet. > > > "Courtesy of Ed NC’s Alex Granados, N.C. Rep. Paul Stam, a > Republican from Wake County who served as one of the > primary sponsors on yesterday’s highly controversial anti- > LGBT bill, is expected to file legislation soon that > includes a sweeping set of changes for teacher and > administrator pay and certification. > > The bill has not been filed yet, but Stam passed out a copy > of its key points to members of the legislature’s Selection > Committee on Education Strategy and Practices Wednesday > morning. > > Based on Stam’s presentation, the bill would declare > individual teacher pay to no longer be public record. With > lawmakers expected to consider differentiated pay scales, > Stam says it would curb jealousy among school teachers. > > While the proposal does not mention public records > exclusions on administrator pay, Stam indicated the > legislation would limit administration severance packages > to one year’s salary and bonus in order to place > restrictions on ballooning administrator deals across the > state. > > The proposal would also open up teaching without a license > to individuals with a master’s or doctorate degree in a > certain content area. > > Additionally, Stam’s bill speeds teacher certification for > the spouses of active duty military personnel and axes > the “break in service” designation that educators say can > lead to lower salaries for teachers who move into > administration. More on this legislation as it develops."

Mar 24, 2016

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Decision to retire

by Melinda

Feb 20, 2016

I have 30 years in as of this year. For those of you who are retiring this year, how did you make the decision? I am burned out but I am scared to make this huge decision.

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livelong I was told by a rep at the retirement systems division
that NC state retirement system has enough assets and
investments to pay for 100 years. We've had good sound
management. I hope that continues.

On 3/15/16, A wrote:
> Detroit workers had their pension system guaranteed by
>>>>>>>>>>>...See More

Mar 15, 2016

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Get Out On 2/20/16, Melinda wrote: > I have 30 years in as of this year. For those of you who > are retiring this year, how did you make the decision? I > am burned out but I am scared to make this huge decision.

Do not give this state one more year of your life. Get Out now!!!!!!! If I had 20 in I would get out. The hell with NC

Mar 24, 2016

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Superintendant

by justme

Mar 15, 2016

Who did you vote for for state super? I voted for Wesley Sills. We need a teacher in that position.

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Professional Development Options

by TJ

Mar 10, 2016

Hello NC teachers. I'm new to NC, wake county. I was fulfilling a PD requirement from NYS to become certified in Art ED, before we had to relocate for my husbands job. I've been searching for PD options for teachers that are not employed in the school system. I've looked at the museums and universities, but I'm wondering if there are any teaching r...See More

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Staying positive At some point I remember a non-employee attending one of our county workshops. I think they had to pay. Maybe call the district near you and ask if there are some open workshops.

On 3/10/16, TJ wrote: > Hello NC teachers. I'm new to NC, wake county. I was fulfilling > a PD requirement from NYS to become certified in Art ED, before &...See More

Mar 11, 2016

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Retirement estimates

by Lisa

Mar 5, 2016

Greetings - After using the benefit estimator on the NC Orbit system I was wondering if anyone has any insight on how close the estimate is to actual payout. I am checking many scenarios to see if I could slide on out a little early without giving up too much money. Whew! Thanks! LF

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