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Pursuing Lateral Entry - Question!

by Gray

Jun 4, 2017

Hello all,

I have a question. I'm an attorney who REALLY wants to exit my profession. I have always thought about teaching. I love history, economics, and politics. I think I'd love teaching the material. I do have concerns about other things, like classroom management, but I can learn. That's all a bit irrelevant to my question, though. <...See More

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Gray I have not taken Praxis yet. Per CMS and NCPI, my relevant degree and grade point average automatically qualifies me for lateral entry. I do have to take Praxis but I'm given 3 years once I'm hired and given a provisional license. I did wonder if going ahead and passing Praxis would give me a leg up when schools are selecting for interviews. That m...See More

Jun 7, 2017

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Lateral Entry Teacher I have just completed my 4th year as a lateral entry teacher. While not an expert on the requirements I can relay my path to teacher licensure. I applied for a CTE job based on my experience in a related field and was chosen for an interview along a few other candidates. Among the other interviewed candidates was a community college instructor who ...See More

Jun 8, 2017

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Moving from Texas

by 25 years in

Jun 8, 2017

A few years ago NC teachers flocked in mass to Texas, so it's funny that you're looking to do the opposite.

NC's in an educational slump right now, and I don't think we're going to "come out of it". I think we're in for long-term changes -- not necessarily for the good.

Having said that, if you're going to teach in NC, the area ...See More

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So, does this happen to other people?

by 25 years in

Jun 8, 2017

I would do absolutely nothing differently, but this mom has still managed to make me feel bad. Not guilty, just bad.

Intellectually, you're right, but this one hit me emotionally.

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Lateral Entry

by Lateral Entry Teacher

Jun 7, 2017

I would first contact the Regional Alternative License Center (RALC) in your area. They can help you with what is going to be required of you to gain a license and the classes needed. Many of the Lateral Entry teachers are very overwhelmed with lesson planning, classroom management, and the college class credit requirements that are needed. You are...See More

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Pursuing Lateral Entry - Question!

by 25 years in

Jun 7, 2017

I'm not a big fan of lateral entry in general. I've seen too many lateral entry people come and go who just didn't "make it". I don't doubt for a moment that you know your subject matter, but that's only the tip of the teaching iceburg. The biggest things that lateral entry people have trouble with are classroom management and the extreme multi-tas...See MoreI'm not a big fan of lateral entry in general. I've seen too many lateral entry people come and go who just didn't "make it". I don't doubt for a moment that you know your subject matter, but that's only the tip of the teaching iceburg. The biggest things that lateral entry people have trouble with are classroom management and the extreme multi-tasking in a classroom.

History is one of the more saturated teaching fields, so your chances of landing a lateral-entry job are not great (whereas, if you wanted to teach math, I'd say you have a good chance of landing a position 'cause we can't fill our math positions for love nor money). You need to understand this: A licensed teacher will ALWAYS get the job over a lateral entry person. Yes, no matter your qualifications, the 22 year old who just graduated with a History degree and a full-fledged teaching license will get the job.

Yes, it's true that teachers are hired late in the summer ... even within the first ten days of school (after the principals receive their official numbers, they sometimes get an additional teacher slot or two).

With interests in history, econ and politics, you're probably talking about teaching Civics, which is taught in 10th grade in my department.

If you want to "up" your chances, say you want to coach a sport. Could you coach tennis? It's a short season, and you'd probably only have a dozen guys (or girls). How 'bout Cross Country? Nobody wants to coach Cross Country.

What's in your favor is that you're willing to work in Charlotte. I'm in an outlying town, and a very large percentage of my co-workers have worked in Charlotte. None of them want to go back. Charlotte is a large system with multiple difficulties and revolving leadership; though they're always hiring and pay a large supplement, Charlotte is not a particularly strong school system.

Without having classroom instruction training, I'd point you towards community college instead of middle or high school. You'd be working with older students who have chosen to be in the classroom, and the behavior problems are decreased.

Another option, consider a charter school. They are more open to hiring people without teaching certifications.

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Gray I understand the negativity around lateral entry. The attrition rate for regular teachers in NC is not good. It only makes sense that laterals are even worse. That being said, it depends on the person. I have one friend who did lateral entry and has been teaching social studies for ten years now. I have another friend who went to school for teachin...See More

Jun 7, 2017

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So, does this happen to other people?

by 25 years in

Jun 7, 2017

A parent has made me feel bad about her child's grade even though I warned her ahead of time and offered opportunities for the child to improve. And the kid is passing my class -- just not with the grade Mom expects in what she thought was an easy elective. She's accused me of being uncaring, a racist, etc., etc., etc.

I know I've done no...See More

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BA Assuming that you treated the student fairly, had clear expectations, and communicated with student and parent about how things were going (and it sounds as if you did), what do you have to feel guilty about? If you were replaying the semester what would YOU choose to do differently? Unless you honestly regret something that you did or should have ...See More

Jun 7, 2017

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Moving from Texas

by Kay

May 23, 2017

Just wanting to get teachers perspective. I have read a lot about peoples opinions about moving. First, I'm looking to go to the Raleigh area. Does anyone have any personal experience with Wake County? Also, I noticed the pay seems to be going up and will continue to do so in the next couple of years. How is the retirement for NC? How are the medic...See More

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NC TeAcH Its Interesting you WANT to move to North Carolina for Education. Nearly half of the teaching profession in NC left in an exodus not to long ago because they were being lead to TEXAS. Our state clearly is in the the bottom pile for education, for those of us who are left. With the new administration teachers are getting optimistic, but if you want ...See More

Jun 4, 2017

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Considering a move to NC

by Sue

Mar 26, 2017

Hello I am new here and I have a question for NC teachers. I have taught for many years in New England (specifically Mass and RI). I was a classroom teacher but since earning my M.Ed in Literacy I am now employed as a reading specialist. My husband and I are considering a move to NC because we want a slower pace of life and we are tired of the rude...See More

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Sue On 3/27/17, old vet wrote: > You will find the same frustrations here that you have there > - CC, teaching to the test, senseless meetings and so-called > " staff development", etc... You will only be paid less for > the headaches than you are used to now.

Wow -- thank you for the feedback. What a shame

Mar 28, 2017

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Look into Vegas On 3/28/17, Sue wrote: > On 3/27/17, old vet wrote: >> You will find the same frustrations here that you have there >> - CC, teaching to the test, senseless meetings and so-called >> " staff development", etc... You will only be paid less for >> the headaches than you are used to now. > > Wow -- thank you ...See More

May 4, 2017

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EC Audit

by Curious

Apr 11, 2017

Has anyone ever been involved in an DPI EC Audit. Our county will have an audit and I was wondering if any teachers had any insight?

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Optimizing last few years before retirement

by In the home stretch

Apr 3, 2017

I'm closing in on my 30 year mark, and I'm starting to make concrete plans. I recently attended the NC Teachers' pre-retirement seminar, and I'm comfortable that I know what paperwork to file /when to file /use of sick days. I don't need to talk about the legal stuff.

Now I'm thinking about non-obvious things I can do to make this transit...See More

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alreadyretired OH YES! Save as many sick days and annual leave as you can! Sick days add to years of service and you'll get a nice check for annual leave you haven't used! Roll that over into a 457 ( tax deferred). The state's Prudential rep can help you with that if you need someone. They came out to the school and helped me enroll. EZ!

Apr 6, 2017

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In the home stretch I doubt the automatic license renewal thing is true (anymore ?). Per a very recent state change, we are now required to pay our own license renewals; thus, I can't believe they'd pay for someone who's about to retire.

Copying emails and lesson plans: Excellent advice, and something I hadn't even considered. I was thinking of putting some...See More

Apr 11, 2017

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