Yes, teacher attrition is bad in NC -- multiple reasons, but that's another subject. Lateral entry attrition is not just worse; it's exponentially worse. In my experience, lateral entry people rarely return for a second year, sometimes don't finish out the semester. Our county has opted to hire VIF -- Visiting International Faculty -- instead of lateral entry; these are teachers from other countries. They only stay two years, but they're more stable than the average lateral entry person.
When you say "it depends upon the person", I know you're thinking that you're a strong student yourself, you can handle challenges, and you are willing to work hard. I don't doubt those things, but I think you're looking at this job with rose colored glasses. Let me say it differently: You're thinking that because you're highly skilled at the subject matter and are a good speaker, you're going to do well -- those things will see you through about 10% of teaching. You haven't had classes in lesson preparation, haven't had a student teaching semester to help you, aren't prepared to deal with special needs kids and 504 kids, and -- to put it simply -- you think these are quick and easy things that you'll pick up in the first week. No, these are the things that break the lateral entry people.
You're an attorney, right? Would you say that I could read your notes thoroughly, interview your client, and go in and try a case ... with maybe a mentor to prepare me for half an hour? It's laughable, isn't it? Well, it's the same for the classroom. People think that because they were students, they know how to teach.
You say you're applying to good schools. Thing is, everyone wants to get into the good schools, so those jobs are going to the certified teachers. Likewise, the honors classes go to the experienced teachers. The new guy on the hall gets to teach the low-level, least-motivated students -- while working towards certification.
Coaches are always in need. We're overrun with people willing/able to do clubs and organizations.
In conclusion, I know you want encouragement, but I honestly don't think you're at all likely to get a History job through lateral entry, and I haven't seen great success with that program. My suggestions are still, Consider community college or a charter school ... the student population would make the job immensely easier. Or -- better yet -- consider substitute teaching. The qualifications for subbing are low, and it'd allow you a taste of school without any real commitment.
You may be correct in that I won't get a job in social studies through lateral entry. I'll get my answer in the next couple of months. That being said, I do plan on enrolling in a university program to get licensed as a teacher anyway and then apply again next year once I have some course work under my belt.
I have a question. I'm an attorney who REALLY wants to exit my profession. I have always thought about teaching. I love history, economics, and politics. I think I'd love teaching the material. I do have concerns about other things, like classroom management, but I can learn. That's all a bit irrelevant to my question, though.
My question is this: what are my chances in getting a social studies teaching job through lateral entry? I'm in the Charlotte area and have applied to a few dozen jobs so far in the middle to high school level. I have yet to hear anything from anyone. I know a few people in the teaching field and have been reassured that most hires don't happen until later in the summer. In other words, I still have a shot. I've also applied to some surrounding counties.
Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to to get my foot in the door, to get noticed? What would schools look for from a lateral entry candidate?
Lateral Entry TeacherI have just completed my 4th year as a lateral entry teacher. While not an expert on the requirements I can relay my path to teacher licensure. I applied for a CTE job based on my experience in a related field and was chosen for an interview along a few other candidates. Among the other interviewed candidates was a community college instructor who ...See MoreI have just completed my 4th year as a lateral entry teacher. While not an expert on the requirements I can relay my path to teacher licensure. I applied for a CTE job based on my experience in a related field and was chosen for an interview along a few other candidates. Among the other interviewed candidates was a community college instructor who it was decided didn't have strong enough background experience in the field to be approved. I wasn't required to take the Praxis and think you have to be licensed to take the Praxis. I believe passing a particular Praxis test allows you to add other areas to your existing license. I think lateral entry is only available for CTE classes which would cover business classes but not history. After obtaining a license you could take a Praxis test for other areas. My experience of teaching is overall good. This is more of a 2nd career for me at close to 50 years old. I have a strong background in my area and don't have to teach for the income. This takes a lot of pressure of me that new teachers might feel. I also teach in a school that probably has less discipline problems many others, although it's a moderately low income area. I would also add teaching is hard for a new teacher especially if your also taking other required classes. Even though I have owned several businesses the 1st year of teaching was one of the busiest and most challenging years I have experienced. I finished 2 of the 4 courses for National Boards this year and hope to take the other 2 next year. This is an interesting career I expect to teach another couple years or more if I continue to enjoy it.
NC's in an educational slump right now, and I don't think we're going to "come out of it". I think we're in for long-term changes -- not necessarily for the good.
Having said that, if you're going to teach in NC, the area surrounding Raleigh might be one of the best options. The Research Triangle area contains a number of universities, and some of our consistently-best schools are the areas where those professor live. Teaching in one of those areas would be a nice thing ... teaching in the bad areas of Raleigh, not so much.
We've been told repeatedly that pay is going up ... but read carefully. The politicians /media people aren't always completely truthful or forthcoming in what they say. For example, recently NC teaches received an average of a 7% raise. Sounds good, right? Yeah, except that the truth is that the new teachers received big raises (I want to say more than 10%, but I'm not 100% sure), while those of us at the top of the scale received literally nothing. But the public thinks we all got 7%, and who shouldn't be happy with that!
As for retirement, the scuttlebutt is that the teacher who enters next fall will be the last teacher to receive an NC pension. Teachers who enter after that will move from a "defined benefit" to a "defined contribution" plan. This, of course, is good and bad: It gives individual teachers more freedom to move out of state without losing their pension years, but it also places more personal responsibility on the individual teachers to monitor their own retirement savings.
History is one of the more saturated teaching fields, so your chances of landing a lateral-entry job are not great (whereas, if you wanted to teach math, I'd say you have a good chance of landing a position 'cause we can't fill our math positions for love nor money). You need to understand this: A licensed teacher will ALWAYS get the job over a lateral entry person. Yes, no matter your qualifications, the 22 year old who just graduated with a History degree and a full-fledged teaching license will get the job.
Yes, it's true that teachers are hired late in the summer ... even within the first ten days of school (after the principals receive their official numbers, they sometimes get an additional teacher slot or two).
With interests in history, econ and politics, you're probably talking about teaching Civics, which is taught in 10th grade in my department.
If you want to "up" your chances, say you want to coach a sport. Could you coach tennis? It's a short season, and you'd probably only have a dozen guys (or girls). How 'bout Cross Country? Nobody wants to coach Cross Country.
What's in your favor is that you're willing to work in Charlotte. I'm in an outlying town, and a very large percentage of my co-workers have worked in Charlotte. None of them want to go back. Charlotte is a large system with multiple difficulties and revolving leadership; though they're always hiring and pay a large supplement, Charlotte is not a particularly strong school system.
Without having classroom instruction training, I'd point you towards community college instead of middle or high school. You'd be working with older students who have chosen to be in the classroom, and the behavior problems are decreased.
Another option, consider a charter school. They are more open to hiring people without teaching certifications.
I am naturally uneasy about the transition to teaching but also very eager and excited. From what I gather, there are a lot of variables that determine whether the experience is positive or negative: administration, colleagues, student conduct, etc. I don't have a lot of control over those variables because I have to take what I can get as a lateral. That does make me uneasy. It's kind of sad that's the case and sort of opposite how lateral entry would ideally work. Laterals would be more likely to succeed if placed in good conditions, I.e. good schools, but that's not usually what happens.
I can tell you I don't want to coach a sport. I am not a sports person. Haha. I'd be all in favor of helping with student clubs and organizations though.
Any lateral success stories? Any reason why they succeeded where others didn't?
I know I've done no...See MoreA parent has made me feel bad about her child's grade even though I warned her ahead of time and offered opportunities for the child to improve. And the kid is passing my class -- just not with the grade Mom expects in what she thought was an easy elective. She's accused me of being uncaring, a racist, etc., etc., etc.
I know I've done nothing wrong, but this parent has made me feel guilty anyway.
SueOn 3/27/17, old vet wrote: > You will find the same frustrations here that you have there > - CC, teaching to the test, senseless meetings and so-called > " staff development", etc... You will only be paid less for > the headaches than you are used to now.