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National Average?

by weneedaraise

Mar 30, 2016

How are we the 8th most populous state and the narrative only calls for getting us paid to the national average? If we're becoming such a great state to live in then why should we only be average?

Why are we not easily paid in the top 15? Why should we be average?

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Libertarian to Jen Jen, You might want to do a bit of research on your own. What was just explained to you in the previous is not quite what I found.

For instance see the following link. These are the states with right to work laws and to my knowledge Jim Crows laws began right after or during reconstruction (1865-1877). The following timeline shows the star...See MoreJen, You might want to do a bit of research on your own. What was just explained to you in the previous is not quite what I found.

For instance see the following link. These are the states with right to work laws and to my knowledge Jim Crows laws began right after or during reconstruction (1865-1877). The following timeline shows the start date in the 1940s. And I was not aware that Utah, North/South Dakota, Nebraska, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Idaho, Indiana, as well as several other states fought for the South!

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And I was amazed to find out that gardeners are public sector workers.

Hmmm learn something new every day. :/

On 4/09/16, Jen wrote: > On 4/09/16, tnc wrote: >> Unions are NOT illegal in NC. Most all unions are active in >> NC: SEIU, Teamsters, AFL-CIO, to name a few. >> The 'right to work' part simply means that if you work in a >> union shop, you have the right to work without joining the >> union and paying dues. Which means you reap the benefits > of >> the work of the union without having to participate in paying >> some dues. >> >> What is illegal (your term) is that state employees are not >> allowed to use collective bargaining or negotiate for > working >> conditions, pay, benefits, etc. >> NCAE is linked to NEA which IS a teacher's union, but we > do >> not get to collective bargain, strike, or any of the rest of it. >> >> This repulsive law came into being in the end of the Jim > Crow >> era when civil rights were being granted right and left to >> Black people. Ever creative, lawmakers found a way to > hinder >> equality. HOw? Well, evidently, a majority of public >> employees seem to have been Black ( think garbage > collectors, >> bus drivers, gardeners...)Public sector workers were >> organizing across the South, so in 1959, NC General > Statute >> 95-98, which declared any contract between state or local >> government and any labor organization as “against the > public >> policy of the state” and thus “illegal, unlawful, void, and of >> no effect.” Only 5 states all located in the South: North >> Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas > have >> passed similar bills. Rather nefarious, wouldn't you say? > > > > Thank you for the info. >

Apr 9, 2016

dumb a
>
> And I was amazed to find out that gardeners are public
> sector workers.
>
> Hmmm learn something new every day. :/

The ones that work for the public facilities are public
sector workers, dumb ass.

Apr 9, 2016

A What is illegal (your term) is that state employees are not allowed to use collective bargaining or negotiate for working conditions, pay, benefits, etc. NCAE is linked to NEA which IS a teacher's union, but we do not get to collective bargain, strike, or any of the rest of it.

Ah, so the term illegal is wrong -- similar to the way people ...See More

Apr 11, 2016

union yes Unintended consequences. Government overreach without reasoning. Single women were mostly teachers-who cares about them, they were just waiting for husbands anyway.

Apr 12, 2016

A On 4/12/16, union yes wrote:
> Unintended consequences. Government overreach without
> reasoning. Single women were mostly teachers-who cares
> about them, they were just waiting for husbands anyway.

Yes, unintended consequences.

I do think that's a part of how we ended up in this
situation. I had a gre...See More

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