So I have a few questions. If you have taken the...See MoreI'm considering earning a degree in Early Childhood (Pre- K to 3) and was happy to see that there is a Praxis exam for this area. I know of several horror stories (and have even seen posts on this chatboard) about people who couldn't pass certain parts of the elementary (thru grade 8) exams.
So I have a few questions. If you have taken the Pre-K - Grade 3 exam, how was your experience? Also, if you have managed to obtain a job, either in the past or recently, was the competition for positions greater due to those with the elementary license or would say that the Pre K- Grade 3 license carries merit?
And before I get a bunch of links to the Praxis website, I'm all too familiar with the tests as I'm licensed 7-12 Language Arts. (And jobs are slim pickins in my corner of OH. Hence, the need for a change).
Pre-k through 3 jobs are pretty tough to come by, too. I don't know which market is more saturated, but I would guess that they would be close. I assume that you are looking at going back to college since you are talking about a new area of concentration. Have you considered special ed? I know many teachers who started their career in special ed, then moved to regular ed once they had their foot in a district door. That was my intention, but 15 years later, here I still am. I would think that a special ed background would immensely help a reg ed teacher, what with so many students who have difficulties but still don't qualify for sped services.
In Ohio, if you have the pre-k through 3 licensure, you can take a few courses to add (I think it's) 4-6 to your licensure. That might be a good route, then you would be licensed preschool-12th grade. Of course, you'll go broke renewing all of those.
Our district has hired several pre-3rd grade teachers, and one of the biggest complaints I hear from elem teachers is that they fear they'll never have job stability --if Mrs. Smith has to be reassigned due to decreasing enrollment but is only certified through 3rd grade, then Mr. Jones, current 3rd grade teacher who loves his job, might be forced to go to an open 5th grade position just because he is qualified for it and she isn't.
I wish you the best of luck.
n 5/10/09, Just Curious wrote: > I'm considering earning a degree in Early Childhood (Pre- K > to 3) and was happy to see that there is a Praxis exam for > this area. I know of several horror stories (and have even > seen posts on this chatboard) about people who couldn't > pass certain parts of the elementary (thru grade 8) exams. > > So I have a few questions. If you have taken the Pre-K - > Grade 3 exam, how was your experience? Also, if you have > managed to obtain a job, either in the past or recently, > was the competition for positions greater due to those with > the elementary license or would say that the Pre K- Grade 3 > license carries merit? > > And before I get a bunch of links to the Praxis website, > I'm all too familiar with the tests as I'm licensed 7-12 > Language Arts. (And jobs are slim pickins in my corner of > OH. Hence, the need for a change). > > Great board here! Thank you for your responses! > >
I've just begun taking classes to be certified as a mild/moderate intervention specialist. My adviser mentioned that since I am a seasoned teacher already and will have several classes under my belt by the time the next school year begins that I might be able to be hired with special licensing. Is this true? If so, how do I put this on my resume?
pkspedI don't know about the exact wording for your resume, but I think your advisor is right. We hired a preschool special needs teacher who wasn't highly qualified (preschool cert, but not sped cert. She taught for almost 5 years before attaining her "highly qualified" status. (She had yearly temporary certificates, which are good only in the district ...See MoreI don't know about the exact wording for your resume, but I think your advisor is right. We hired a preschool special needs teacher who wasn't highly qualified (preschool cert, but not sped cert. She taught for almost 5 years before attaining her "highly qualified" status. (She had yearly temporary certificates, which are good only in the district of employment. They don't follow you like your actual license.) We are looking at possibly hiring another preschool special needs teacher, and I know my supervisor told a student teacher to make sure her application is in for that position. She will have k-12 sped certification, but not preschool certification. She'll have to continue taking classes until she's licensed as as preschool special education teacher. I think the key things are: -area of certification (sped is a hard area to fill; reg ed is an easy position to fill), and -location. In our rural district, this was our only option. If you are in an urban or even suburban area, the school will still have plenty of applicants from which to choose who already have the required licensure.
On 5/10/09, alchemy wrote: > I've just begun taking classes to be certified as a > mild/moderate intervention specialist. My adviser > mentioned that since I am a seasoned teacher already and > will have several classes under my belt by the time the > next school year begins that I might be able to be hired > with special licensing. Is this true? If so, how do I > put this on my resume?
In this climate I will admit that 2 offers is a long shot, but am the worrying kind of spouse. I am also amazed at how little of this nuts and bolts career basics are taught while pursuing an education degree. They dont really discuss the business side of the job at all.
pkspedIf your wife were to be offered a job today, she would immediately sign a new contract for the 09-10 school year. This is for her benefit; you want her to sign a contract as soon as possible. If a second district were to offer her a contract, then she could legally (and easily) break the first contract by the "magic date." I believe the magic date ...See MoreIf your wife were to be offered a job today, she would immediately sign a new contract for the 09-10 school year. This is for her benefit; you want her to sign a contract as soon as possible. If a second district were to offer her a contract, then she could legally (and easily) break the first contract by the "magic date." I believe the magic date in Ohio is July 10; hopefully someone will correct me if that date is wrong. Assuming I am correct, then these things could happen: 1) She could break the original contract as late as July 9. She really should break it as soon as possible to be fair to that school district; don't encourage her to hold on to it "just in case" she changes her mind about the 2nd school district. They need time to find a qualified teacher before the "magic date" when everyone else is locked into place. 2) She could actually break the original contract after July 10. Most of the time, that school district would be very understanding and release her with no problem; heaven knows there are a wealth of other applicants from which to choose. HOWEVER, the school district legally could hold her, meaning that she is forced to teach for them for the year or they could legally "hold" her teaching contract for one school year, blocking her from teaching ANYWHERE for the 09-10 school year. I know teachers who left after that date (they were offered a principal position, etc) and to my knowledge, our district has never penalized anyone. That law is to protect teachers and districts so that multiple people aren't holding out until the last second. After July 10, things are pretty much cemented in any district, save for new jobs created (an extra large 2nd grade bunch that requires an additional teacher, a medical emergency, a job that admin know would need to be created but they never got around to posting it yet, etc.)
Speaking of the business side, you probably know this, but there is no negotiating with a teacher's contract (like there is in the business world.) Your wife will be offered what every other teacher (with similar experience and education background) is offered. She won't get more for teaching in an area of teacher shortage, because she has an ivy league degree, etc. Pay differs per district, but not within the district (again, comparing two people with similar backgrounds and educational experiences.)
n 5/15/09, Spouse of Teacher wrote: > My wife has been subbing for the last year at a district > she would love to work in. Unfortunately the job > possibilities there are small. She has some interviews > with other districts that would not be first choice. I > know this putting the cart miles before the horse, but > what are her options if she is offered a position in the > second choice district and then is offered a position in > the favorite district? Do you immediatley sign a contract > when you are offered a position or is there a grace period > moving closer to the start of the year? What if she has > signed the contract when another job is offerred but the > school year has not started? > > In this climate I will admit that 2 offers is a long shot, > but am the worrying kind of spouse. I am also amazed at > how little of this nuts and bolts career basics are taught > while pursuing an education degree. They dont really > discuss the business side of the job at all. > > Thanks for any advce
Schools do not want someone teaching there if it is not where they want to be.
So, I would have your wife sign the first contract that comes her way regardless and then if something better comes along inquire about breaking the first contract - they will most likely let her even after July 10th.
At least this is the way it works in the Cleveland area
What are the best school districts in the Cincinatti area? I will be moving, and would also be interested in which districts are not the best. I am interested in districts about 20 miles north of Cincinatti.
Some districts have been 2 hours from our home, but you know, ...See MoreThe good news is, there have been many openings in my husband's field, the bad news is, he hasn't exactly gotten any calls. He is LT subbing right now, so I get to make the F/U calls to the applications he sends to check to see if and when the district has started interviewing.
Some districts have been 2 hours from our home, but you know, desperate times call for desperate measures. We would move. He mentions that (not the desperate thing, but the move thing) in the interest letters. Anyway, he submitted 6 apps in southern Ohio all within about 2 weeks of each other. I F/U last week which was about 5 weeks past the first one sent. They ALL have hired already AND HE NEVER GOT A CALL!
So, exasperation and/or deperation in my voice, prompted one employee to tell me that they receive HUNDREDS of applications for one opening and every applicant is basically a carbon copy of the next. We (you) all just finished school, just did student teaching, frequently all attended the same school, all come with the same price tag - how do you narrow that down. She told me that, of course not her district, but another one, she of course, has heard, simply goes every tenth resume and then reviews those first to see if they have enough applicants they like to interview. If not, they do it again. So, something like what, 90% of the applications don't get read??!!
I had an Asst Super tell me that he looks for referrals and/or recommendations by other staff, colleagues, etc. Afterall, "how do I effectively evaluate hundreds of resumes when everyone is basically the same on paper."
This is CRAZY! But it certainly lends credence to the fact that you really do need to know someone to get your foot in the door in a district.
With that said, I know people are going to post they got hired and didn't....I realize that happens as well, maybe they were one of the every 10th resume scenario, maybe not. This is still crazy!!
Sounds just like my situation. I couldn't find a job in NE Ohio so my wife and I moved to NC in 2004. I would love to go back home, but even if I could find a job I worry that with the economy I would/could just be laid off and and have the same problems all over again. Actually with the way things are in NC, it would probably be worse.
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None of these school systems are perfect and from what I understand you gotta call the schools individually- to let the principal know you're interested.
You must perform your due dilligence though! I've taught in a dysfunctional, N.Carolina, middle school that was over 1200 kids.
Speaking of N.Carolina- it has begun laying off teachers in its larger counties yet I still see openings in its smaller less affluent counties( i.e.-Alamance Burlington).
If you do get a job post what happened. I for one like to read about good endings. BTW if you read the NC board take it with a grain of salt. I find the posts there tend toward discouraging job seekers and an anti-union stance.
Oh, 1 last thing- only VA has comparable salaries to OH but no southern state will have comparable unions to OH.
God bless.
On 5/20/09, Elizabeth wrote: > Thanks, CB, > I forwarded that to him. He is doing a lot, but this whole > networking thing...
On 5/19/09, Rena wrote: > Hello > I am looking for some advice. I have already read the > post/replies concerning student teaching and not being able > to quit their jobs. I am in the same boat, please don't > tell me that you have to sacrifice as I have no husband or > other support system nor am I an individual in college with > minimal expenses. Not having income is not an option to pay > my mortgage/carnote, etc. It is just not. However, I was > looking into the alt. route but which school districts in > ohio near Cleveland,OH provides the mentoring program? If > anyone has went through this route that are in or near the > Cleveland area. Please help me. I currently work for the > government at the county level but I really want to be in > the classroom but I am thinking that this may be a dream I > may have to let be because of finances. thanks all!
So I am hearing that Praxis testing has been cancelled for the state of Ohio. Has anyone heard this? The rumor around my school is that is was done May 1, 2009. Yet, I do not see anything on the ODE website. Can anyone give me any information on this?
It depends on the school system where the Title I program/position is located and the needs of the Title I students in that system. Some systems require specific skills or training to implement the duties of the program/position. For example, some school systems require their Title I teachers to use Dibels or other specific programs with their Title I population. Candidates with knowledge about the required programs would have an advantage over those without, I think. However, some school systems may not have these requirements. If not, your certification may be fine. It is similar to mine (though I have made other upgrades to mine) and I will be a Title I teacher next year. If you are interested in the position, I would apply just to see what questions they ask. The interview experience can be beneficial.
A few parents have approached me about tutoring their children over the summer. What is the going rate for tutors? How much would you charge for a 45 minute session?