Let's talk about the "state of the State…"

Let's talk about the "state of the State..."

by pksped

Jan 28, 2009

Admittedly, I didn't watch Gov. Strickland's speech. I taped it so that I cna watch it WITHOUT my children in the room. LOL. I see that he proposed extending the school year by 20 days. What are your thoughts? Here are mine (without hearing the speech): pros: more time with students is always good more pay - maybe people will realize that our summers really aren't paid vacations cons: -If mandated testing isn't drastically changed, what good is 20 extra days after the test? That's why my district has decided to put as many make up snow days during spring break as possible - we've decided plugging extra days at the end of the school year just aren't that beneficial. Loading them in August would be more beneficial than June.

-Some of you may be sitting in pretty new buildings, but my district is still another 15-20 years down the state list. We have no air conditioning, and quite frankly, many times our heat is questionable. Adding 20 days somewhere in June or August is NOT appe...See More

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pksped ALL of the previous post was mine. I deleted all the old stuff, but somehow left the top part that said "on 1/29/09 CB wrote." So it looked like CB wrote it, but I take the credit / (blame??) for it. Sorry for the confusion.

> I'm showing my age. I momentarily forgot about the Praxis III; I was hired > in pre-praxis days. I agree tha...See More

Jan 30, 2009

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CB Thanks about my b l o g; I'm slightly obsessed with the whole b l o g ging industry.

I love my rural district, and would choose it any day over the big suburban schools. I do, however, wish there wasn't such a gap in pay between where I am and 20 miles away in suburbia. Doing the same job I am now with the same qualifications, I would make...See MoreThanks about my b l o g; I'm slightly obsessed with the whole b l o g ging industry.

I love my rural district, and would choose it any day over the big suburban schools. I do, however, wish there wasn't such a gap in pay between where I am and 20 miles away in suburbia. Doing the same job I am now with the same qualifications, I would make $20,000 more a couple school districts over. It's a harsh reality, and though I AM happy, the knowledge of the pay gap is a big pill to swallow.

I would like to see some equality in pay come out of this whole situation. What's it like in the medical industry? Do nurses at Grant Medical Center get paid far less than nurses at Mount Carmel East?

The only other comments I keep seeing on other boards and in the news reaction to Strickland's speech center on how he plans to ascertain the money to fund all these initiatives. It should be interesting to watch the next few years unfold!

On 1/30/09, pksped wrote: > ALL of the previous post was mine. I deleted all the > old stuff, but somehow > left the top part that said "on 1/29/09 CB > wrote." So it looked like CB wrote it, but I take > the credit / (blame??) for it. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > >> I'm showing my age. I momentarily forgot about the >> Praxis III; I was hired in pre-praxis days. I agree >> that if we have a residency, it should go, as well. >> My other cousin is a physician's assistant. He >> assists in surgeries (meaning he performs integral >> tasks on the patient - not just wiping the brow of >> the doctor). He didn't even have a four year >> residency. Come to think of it, I don't think he had >> ANY residency. He completed his master's degree, then >> he was hired to perform his job. The physician who >> employed him decided when, and if, he was ready to >> help with surgical procedures. >> >> That's a good question about placement. I live in >> such a rural district that I forgot about the race to >> get the "good" school. Here it's a matter >> of location, location, location (meaning simple >> geography; not being in the right place at the right >> time.) >> >> >> I LOVED your b l o g, CB. I especially loved your >> intro and the value of the cow. I think we live and >> work in the same place. Are you my neighbor?!? It's >> too bad you're having a hard time posting here. You >> made a lot of good points. I believe b l o g is a bad >> word here. Notice the spacing I used - try that if >> necessary.

Jan 30, 2009

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Elizabeth I have worked in many different industries and I would say with a 100% guarantee that rural areas pay less in most, if not all, fields. One time when interviewing with a recruiter (I'm in a business field) I was told to make the kind of money I want to make, I have to be in downtown Cleveland. The further you get from the city, the less you will be...See MoreI have worked in many different industries and I would say with a 100% guarantee that rural areas pay less in most, if not all, fields. One time when interviewing with a recruiter (I'm in a business field) I was told to make the kind of money I want to make, I have to be in downtown Cleveland. The further you get from the city, the less you will be compensated!

With that said, and telecommuting, and home offices, etc, etc,. I am sure there are exceptions. But for your basic brick and mortar employers hiring on-site staff, it's a pretty safe bet to say that it applies across the board. How big those discrepancies are may be another factor, but for me...the difference between DT Cleveland and the suburbs was $10K-$20K.

And I too liked reading your blog! Elizabeth

On 1/30/09, CB wrote: > Thanks about my b l o g; I'm slightly obsessed with the > whole b l o g ging industry. > > I love my rural district, and would choose it any day over > the big suburban schools. I do, however, wish there wasn't > such a gap in pay between where I am and 20 miles away in > suburbia. Doing the same job I am now with the same > qualifications, I would make $20,000 more a couple school > districts over. It's a harsh reality, and though I AM > happy, the knowledge of the pay gap is a big pill to swallow. > > I would like to see some equality in pay come out of this > whole situation. What's it like in the medical industry? > Do nurses at Grant Medical Center get paid far less than > nurses at Mount Carmel East? > > The only other comments I keep seeing on other boards and in > the news reaction to Strickland's speech center on how he > plans to ascertain the money to fund all these initiatives. > It should be interesting to watch the next few years unfold! > > On 1/30/09, pksped wrote: >> ALL of the previous post was mine. I deleted all the >> old stuff, but somehow >> left the top part that said "on 1/29/09 CB >> wrote." So it looked like CB wrote it, but I take >> the credit / (blame??) for it. Sorry for the confusion. >> >> >> >> >> >>> I'm showing my age. I momentarily forgot about the >>> Praxis III; I was hired in pre-praxis days. I agree >>> that if we have a residency, it should go, as well. >>> My other cousin is a physician's assistant. He >>> assists in surgeries (meaning he performs integral >>> tasks on the patient - not just wiping the brow of >>> the doctor). He didn't even have a four year >>> residency. Come to think of it, I don't think he had >>> ANY residency. He completed his master's degree, then >>> he was hired to perform his job. The physician who >>> employed him decided when, and if, he was ready to >>> help with surgical procedures. >>> >>> That's a good question about placement. I live in >>> such a rural district that I forgot about the race to >>> get the "good" school. Here it's a matter >>> of location, location, location (meaning simple >>> geography; not being in the right place at the right >>> time.) >>> >>> >>> I LOVED your b l o g, CB. I especially loved your >>> intro and the value of the cow. I think we live and >>> work in the same place. Are you my neighbor?!? It's >>> too bad you're having a hard time posting here. You >>> made a lot of good points. I believe b l o g is a bad >>> word here. Notice the spacing I used - try that if >>> necessary.

Feb 12, 2009

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CB Sure, but do all of those industries have state-mandated minimum requirements for employment? That's my only issue with the discrepancy in pay. We are all required to fulfill the same requirements, so I have the same minimum training as any other teacher in Ohio.

Thanks on the blog :)

On 2/12/09, Elizabeth wrote: > I have worke...See MoreSure, but do all of those industries have state-mandated minimum requirements for employment? That's my only issue with the discrepancy in pay. We are all required to fulfill the same requirements, so I have the same minimum training as any other teacher in Ohio.

Thanks on the blog :)

On 2/12/09, Elizabeth wrote: > I have worked in many different industries and I would say with > a 100% guarantee that rural areas pay less in most, if not all, > fields. One time when interviewing with a recruiter (I'm in a > business field) I was told to make the kind of money I want to > make, I have to be in downtown Cleveland. The further you get > from the city, the less you will be compensated! > > With that said, and telecommuting, and home offices, etc, etc,. > I am sure there are exceptions. But for your basic brick and > mortar employers hiring on-site staff, it's a pretty safe bet > to say that it applies across the board. How big those > discrepancies are may be another factor, but for me...the > difference between DT Cleveland and the suburbs was $10K-$20K. > > And I too liked reading your blog! > Elizabeth > > > On 1/30/09, CB wrote: >> Thanks about my b l o g; I'm slightly obsessed with the >> whole b l o g ging industry. >> >> I love my rural district, and would choose it any day over >> the big suburban schools. I do, however, wish there wasn't >> such a gap in pay between where I am and 20 miles away in >> suburbia. Doing the same job I am now with the same >> qualifications, I would make $20,000 more a couple school >> districts over. It's a harsh reality, and though I AM >> happy, the knowledge of the pay gap is a big pill to swallow. >> >> I would like to see some equality in pay come out of this >> whole situation. What's it like in the medical industry? >> Do nurses at Grant Medical Center get paid far less than >> nurses at Mount Carmel East? >> >> The only other comments I keep seeing on other boards and in >> the news reaction to Strickland's speech center on how he >> plans to ascertain the money to fund all these initiatives. >> It should be interesting to watch the next few years unfold! >> >> On 1/30/09, pksped wrote: >>> ALL of the previous post was mine. I deleted all the >>> old stuff, but somehow >>> left the top part that said "on 1/29/09 CB >>> wrote." So it looked like CB wrote it, but I take >>> the credit / (blame??) for it. Sorry for the confusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'm showing my age. I momentarily forgot about the >>>> Praxis III; I was hired in pre-praxis days. I agree >>>> that if we have a residency, it should go, as well. >>>> My other cousin is a physician's assistant. He >>>> assists in surgeries (meaning he performs integral >>>> tasks on the patient - not just wiping the brow of >>>> the doctor). He didn't even have a four year >>>> residency. Come to think of it, I don't think he had >>>> ANY residency. He completed his master's degree, then >>>> he was hired to perform his job. The physician who >>>> employed him decided when, and if, he was ready to >>>> help with surgical procedures. >>>> >>>> That's a good question about placement. I live in >>>> such a rural district that I forgot about the race to >>>> get the "good" school. Here it's a matter >>>> of location, location, location (meaning simple >>>> geography; not being in the right place at the right >>>> time.) >>>> >>>> >>>> I LOVED your b l o g, CB. I especially loved your >>>> intro and the value of the cow. I think we live and >>>> work in the same place. Are you my neighbor?!? It's >>>> too bad you're having a hard time posting here. You >>>> made a lot of good points. I believe b l o g is a bad >>>> word here. Notice the spacing I used - try that if >>>> necessary.

Feb 12, 2009

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OHTechTeacher I briefly spoke with my principal about the governor's plan. I like the forms of multiple assessments, like the senior project. I think its a great idea. I'm all for interdisciplinary learning (thats what I'm into as a business/technology teacher. However....with the class size mandate in grades K-3....class size cap at 15 students....we would have...See MoreI briefly spoke with my principal about the governor's plan. I like the forms of multiple assessments, like the senior project. I think its a great idea. I'm all for interdisciplinary learning (thats what I'm into as a business/technology teacher. However....with the class size mandate in grades K-3....class size cap at 15 students....we would have to hire 20 teachers and build a building.

Thats not even including what it would cost to operate a building and pay staff for a month of extra work.

I like what he says about assessments...and 21st century skills would have to include my area (technology)....so that part is good.

I wouldn't care if they extended the school year...just so I was compensated for my work!

On 2/12/09, CB wrote: > Sure, but do all of those industries have state-mandated minimum > requirements for employment? That's my only issue with the > discrepancy in pay. We are all required to fulfill the same > requirements, so I have the same minimum training as any other > teacher in Ohio. > > Thanks on the blog :) > > On 2/12/09, Elizabeth wrote: >> I have worked in many different industries and I would say with >> a 100% guarantee that rural areas pay less in most, if not all, >> fields. One time when interviewing with a recruiter (I'm in a >> business field) I was told to make the kind of money I want to >> make, I have to be in downtown Cleveland. The further you get >> from the city, the less you will be compensated! >> >> With that said, and telecommuting, and home offices, etc, etc,. >> I am sure there are exceptions. But for your basic brick and >> mortar employers hiring on-site staff, it's a pretty safe bet >> to say that it applies across the board. How big those >> discrepancies are may be another factor, but for me...the >> difference between DT Cleveland and the suburbs was $10K-$20K. >> >> And I too liked reading your blog! >> Elizabeth >> >> >> On 1/30/09, CB wrote: >>> Thanks about my b l o g; I'm slightly obsessed with the >>> whole b l o g ging industry. >>> >>> I love my rural district, and would choose it any day over >>> the big suburban schools. I do, however, wish there wasn't >>> such a gap in pay between where I am and 20 miles away in >>> suburbia. Doing the same job I am now with the same >>> qualifications, I would make $20,000 more a couple school >>> districts over. It's a harsh reality, and though I AM >>> happy, the knowledge of the pay gap is a big pill to swallow. >>> >>> I would like to see some equality in pay come out of this >>> whole situation. What's it like in the medical industry? >>> Do nurses at Grant Medical Center get paid far less than >>> nurses at Mount Carmel East? >>> >>> The only other comments I keep seeing on other boards and in >>> the news reaction to Strickland's speech center on how he >>> plans to ascertain the money to fund all these initiatives. >>> It should be interesting to watch the next few years unfold! >>> >>> On 1/30/09, pksped wrote: >>>> ALL of the previous post was mine. I deleted all the >>>> old stuff, but somehow >>>> left the top part that said "on 1/29/09 CB >>>> wrote." So it looked like CB wrote it, but I take >>>> the credit / (blame??) for it. Sorry for the confusion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm showing my age. I momentarily forgot about the >>>>> Praxis III; I was hired in pre-praxis days. I agree >>>>> that if we have a residency, it should go, as well. >>>>> My other cousin is a physician's assistant. He >>>>> assists in surgeries (meaning he performs integral >>>>> tasks on the patient - not just wiping the brow of >>>>> the doctor). He didn't even have a four year >>>>> residency. Come to think of it, I don't think he had >>>>> ANY residency. He completed his master's degree, then >>>>> he was hired to perform his job. The physician who >>>>> employed him decided when, and if, he was ready to >>>>> help with surgical procedures. >>>>> >>>>> That's a good question about placement. I live in >>>>> such a rural district that I forgot about the race to >>>>> get the "good" school. Here it's a matter >>>>> of location, location, location (meaning simple >>>>> geography; not being in the right place at the right >>>>> time.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I LOVED your b l o g, CB. I especially loved your >>>>> intro and the value of the cow. I think we live and >>>>> work in the same place. Are you my neighbor?!? It's >>>>> too bad you're having a hard time posting here. You >>>>> made a lot of good points. I believe b l o g is a bad >>>>> word here. Notice the spacing I used - try that if >>>>> necessary.

Feb 26, 2009

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