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balancing the budget

by Vince Ferraccioli

Feb 21, 2011

Dear Teachers, The unions do not own our government. The unions don't own teachers. Teachers work for the taxpayers, not the unions. Teachers are responsible for teaching our children, not picketing for the unions. The union boses do not own you and should not be getting rich on teachers dues. Balancing the budget will not only eliminate the union ...See More

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NC Mtn Teacher N.C. salaries were reduced last year in a state budget emergency move by the governor. The final checks before summer were docked a few hundred dollars each to make the state budget balance. Our state's testing program used to offer bonus money for excelling, now we still have the test, just no bonuses. State retirement contributions are required o...See More

Feb 22, 2011

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NC Piedmont teacher Your NC salary info is completely wrong. We have a state salary schedule posted online for anybody to see. Maximum amount for a teacher with Masters and National Board Certification is 64750. Some counties (we mostly have county systems) pay a subsidy on top of that. It's never a fortune but it's certainly more than 40,000.

On 2/21/11, Mar...See MoreYour NC salary info is completely wrong. We have a state salary schedule posted online for anybody to see. Maximum amount for a teacher with Masters and National Board Certification is 64750. Some counties (we mostly have county systems) pay a subsidy on top of that. It's never a fortune but it's certainly more than 40,000.

On 2/21/11, Mary DeFalco wrote: > The Wis.' protest is about power not about the budget. The > governor did not include the unions of firefighters, police, or > the hwy patrol. He is determine to break the unions of those who > didn't support him. The unions offered to make concessions but > he is hell bent on taking away their bargaining power. He refuses > to meet with them. The Wis. governor worked to reduce taxes - > that isn't going to help the budget. The amount of money the > union workers make is pittance in comparison to what the > financial world is maneuvering. The big banks, the Feds, and big > stock brokers brought Wis., US and many countries to the brink > of disaster with their gambling and unethical practice. Don't > forget the disaster the banks caused by giving out loans they > knew couldn't be met- just the tip of the iceberg. The Feds are > constantly devaluating the dollar by printing money. Let > financial world get us out of the mess they created. Tax the > wealthy. Don't let those unethical swindlers take away our voice, > make the working class carry the financial burden, lower our > standard of living, and be subservient to the wealthy class. As > Senator Schumer wrote, "He ( the governor) may wish to take > America back to the 1920s, when workers had no rights, but the > rest of us certainly don't. > > People never cease to amaze me by their myopic vision. Everyone > single union member should rally in support of the Wis. unions. > Some states don't allow unions. I was told by a professor in NC > that teachers can't make more than $40,000 in her state. The > financial world that continue to give senior executives with > large six figure salaries bonuses as they did even during the > melt down, have no respect for union workers such as teachers. > Who says they are better than us. > > Mary DeFalco > > > > On 2/21/11, WOW wrote: >> Have the teachers ever stopped to look at how much their >> union bosses are paid and what their benifits are? These >> guys are rich and have great insurance just like any big >> shots for big business or politician. Oh Wait, the Unions >> are a big business but their members forget to look at that. >> >> If union bosses are so good and want to help why do they >> spenbd millions on trips to Vegas and the Bahamas jsut to >> have anual meetings? They could meet and discuss their plans >> at any local conference center. It doesnt have to be a >> vaction and really it shouldnt be. >> >> Union members need to wake up and see they are being ripped >> off. >> >> >> On 2/21/11, Vince Ferraccioli wrote: >>> Dear Teachers, >>> The unions do not own our government. The unions don't own >>> teachers. Teachers work for the taxpayers, not the unions. >>> Teachers are responsible for teaching our children, not >>> picketing for the unions. The union boses do not own you >>> and should not be getting rich on teachers dues. Balancing >>> the budget will not only eliminate the union stronghold on >>> the Wisconsin government and it's employees, but will save >>> teachers millions in dollars in dues. >>> The Wisconsin governor's budget should pass for the >>> betterment of all taxpayers in Wisconsin including the >>> teachers.

Feb 23, 2011

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Collective Bargaining

by CAT

Feb 21, 2011

If WI teachers were to lose collective bargaining...

There is no funding for education right now across the entire country. Classroom size has increased. Teachers have been furloughed, laid off, and even terminated as a result of budget cuts. Not only does this hurt the students, but it also hurts education. Most teachers want to do what i...See More

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State legislature

by janel

Feb 21, 2011

Just curious about the salary and pension of your state representatives. Here in PA they can vote themselves a raise. My first question is: Have the members of the WI legislature agreed to cut their pensions and pay for their health insurance??? I was waiting for this question to be answered on the news, but it's just about drama and commentary, ve...See More

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My thoughts are with you all..

by in your fight for fair treatment

Feb 21, 2011

Good luck and the country is rooting for you all!

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nothardly On 2/21/11, in your fight for fair treatment wrote: > Good luck and the country is rooting for you all!

No the country is not rooting for Unions.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters agree more with the Republican governor in his dispute with union workers. Thirty-eight percent ...See More

Feb 22, 2011

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sign national petition supporting workers rights

by something you can do

Feb 22, 2011

the following is the pledge to stand with the workers. go to [link removed].

LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD FOR EDUCATORS AND WORKERS’ RIGHTS ~ We Pledge To Stand With America’s Educators, School Support Staff And Workers ~

We believe that educators, school support staff, nurses, firefighters and other middle class workers are esse...See Morethe following is the pledge to stand with the workers. go to [link removed].

LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD FOR EDUCATORS AND WORKERS’ RIGHTS ~ We Pledge To Stand With America’s Educators, School Support Staff And Workers ~

We believe that educators, school support staff, nurses, firefighters and other middle class workers are essential to the well-being and safety of our families and communities.

We believe that working Americans need to use the strength of our numbers to fight for better wages and benefits, job security and safer workplaces.

We believe that the attacks happening in state after state are more of the same old partisan politics in which whatever party is in power tries to hurt the other side.

We believe that while we suffer, the same politicians support tax breaks for corporations and CEOs. Politicians know unions are a check on corporate power, so they are working to weaken or eliminate them.

To fulfill the promise of workers’ role in restoring balance to our economy, protecting and growing the middle class, and sustaining our communities, we urge governors and politicians to:

* Meet with educators and other public employees to find fair and sensible solutions that are in the best interests of the nation’s middle class, children and families.

* Stop the power struggle. We need balance that brings our leaders together to create quality jobs and solves the problems hurting middle class families across the country.

* Do their share by cutting their own high salaries, pensions and perks before asking frontline, middle class workers to sacrifice even more in wage and benefit cuts.

* Solve the problems of the middle class instead of giving even more power to the corporate CEOs who got them elected.

* Remember that public employees are our neighbors and friends. They are educators, firefighters, social workers, and police officers. They make a lot of sacrifices and make a big contribution. It’s important not to vilify them or to suggest that somehow they are the cause of state budget problems.

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Wisconsin Teachers

by d-det

Feb 22, 2011

I am an elementary teacher from Michigan. We support you! My district participated in a "work stoppage" two years ago and won. Michigan is watching - don't give up - you are fighting for us all.

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education

by confused

Feb 22, 2011

I been watching this since the begining and kind of agree with each side on some issues. But I would like to remind everyone about one thing. Education is funded by tax dollars. If we stop paying taxes for it then their will be no education system and only the rich will be able to have their children educated.

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crazy If you think the high up union leaders are volunteers then you are badly uninformed or jsut plain stupid. You may have a few people volunteering their time to hand out flyers and other petty stuff but the high ups are multi millionaires and off of your dues at that.

On 2/22/11, protest on!! wrote: > For the record, economic hardships ar...See MoreIf you think the high up union leaders are volunteers then you are badly uninformed or jsut plain stupid. You may have a few people volunteering their time to hand out flyers and other petty stuff but the high ups are multi millionaires and off of your dues at that.

On 2/22/11, protest on!! wrote: > For the record, economic hardships are not everywhere. Economic > hardship belongs solely to the middle and lower class - the > working people if you will. There are plenty on Wall Street who > have all sorts of money to buy extra homes and big cars. Every > crook who caused this economic melt down got to keep all of the > money they stole and never did a single day in jail. In fact, I > think they're getting more million dollar bonuses this year. And > I'm sure the 400 richest people in America who have the same > revenue as the bottom 50% of people in this country aren't having > a hard time making their ends meet. You know why there's a huge > issue with our pensions? Because the a-holes on wall street > bundled up their crappy loans, rated them A+ and then sold them > to the states, who are now paying dearly for it. The gap between > the rich and the poor is enormous in this country. And destroying > the unions will just make it worse. > > Because this isn't about paying for benefits - teachers already > said they'd pay more. This is most definitely about Republicans > trying to destroy the competition. Our union dues don't go to > overpaid leaders. They're volunteers. Our union dues go to > campaign ads that support democrats. Maybe I'm wrong, but it > seems to me that this is about partisan politics - as usual. > > Why don't you go back to school and educate yourself, rude GA > teacher. > > On 2/22/11, GA teacher wrote: >> No confusion here. There are economic hardships everywhere! >> From the US government all the way down to individual >> families. Everyone has to make cuts everywhere. Sorry >> Wisconsin teachers, go back to work and educate our future. >> Without their education there will be no future. >> >> So much for your calling! >> >> On 2/22/11, confused wrote: >>> I been watching this since the begining and kind of agree >>> with each side on some issues. But I would like to remind >>> everyone about one thing. Education is funded by tax >>> dollars. If we stop paying taxes for it then their will be >>> no education system and only the rich will be able to have >>> their children educated. >>> >>> People complain about the unions and on some issues they >>> should. But we also want to get all children educated and >>> not just the upper class. Cut backs to education is going >>> to hurt this country. There are many areas were we >>> could make cuts but education should never be cut but >>> increased. >>> >>> Taxes pay for schools, Prisons, Fire Fighters etc... Its >>> funny how people complain about that until their house is >>> on fire, or their neighbor is a child molester who isnt >>> locked up in prison, or how their child is in a class room >>> with 40 other kids and falling behind because they need >>> more help and cant get it. People always complain until >>> they are the ones who need that service provided.

Feb 22, 2011

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no problem I have no problem with people working hard and getting themselves ahead. That is a cornerstone of our system. What I hate is a system that Abuse the worker for the sake of certain people lining their pockets. The businessmen who cut their employees medical benefits. I know such an effected family whose benefits maxed-out half way through their sons...See MoreI have no problem with people working hard and getting themselves ahead. That is a cornerstone of our system. What I hate is a system that Abuse the worker for the sake of certain people lining their pockets. The businessmen who cut their employees medical benefits. I know such an effected family whose benefits maxed-out half way through their sons kemotherapy. How about governments who misuse the budget, continually elect to give themselves and system administrators large salary increases, and then turn around and cut wages and benefits of the employees. I see the administrators of WV school systems receive large pay raises while expecting more from teachers is increasingly overcrowded situations. All blame and responsibility is placed on the little guy to often. I have seen it in many industries. That kind of greed and abuse is what I hate. The powerful tend to lay their responsibilities on the powerless.

On 2/22/11, crazy wrote: > If you think the high up union leaders are volunteers then you are > badly uninformed or jsut plain stupid. You may have a few people > volunteering their time to hand out flyers and other petty stuff > but the high ups are multi millionaires and off of your dues at > that. > > > > On 2/22/11, protest on!! wrote: >> For the record, economic hardships are not everywhere. Economic >> hardship belongs solely to the middle and lower class - the >> working people if you will. There are plenty on Wall Street who >> have all sorts of money to buy extra homes and big cars. Every >> crook who caused this economic melt down got to keep all of the >> money they stole and never did a single day in jail. In fact, I >> think they're getting more million dollar bonuses this year. And >> I'm sure the 400 richest people in America who have the same >> revenue as the bottom 50% of people in this country aren't having >> a hard time making their ends meet. You know why there's a huge >> issue with our pensions? Because the a-holes on wall street >> bundled up their crappy loans, rated them A+ and then sold them >> to the states, who are now paying dearly for it. The gap between >> the rich and the poor is enormous in this country. And destroying >> the unions will just make it worse. >> >> Because this isn't about paying for benefits - teachers already >> said they'd pay more. This is most definitely about Republicans >> trying to destroy the competition. Our union dues don't go to >> overpaid leaders. They're volunteers. Our union dues go to >> campaign ads that support democrats. Maybe I'm wrong, but it >> seems to me that this is about partisan politics - as usual. >> >> Why don't you go back to school and educate yourself, rude GA >> teacher. >> >> On 2/22/11, GA teacher wrote: >>> No confusion here. There are economic hardships everywhere! >>> From the US government all the way down to individual >>> families. Everyone has to make cuts everywhere. Sorry >>> Wisconsin teachers, go back to work and educate our future. >>> Without their education there will be no future. >>> >>> So much for your calling! >>> >>> On 2/22/11, confused wrote: >>>> I been watching this since the begining and kind of agree >>>> with each side on some issues. But I would like to remind >>>> everyone about one thing. Education is funded by tax >>>> dollars. If we stop paying taxes for it then their will be >>>> no education system and only the rich will be able to have >>>> their children educated. >>>> >>>> People complain about the unions and on some issues they >>>> should. But we also want to get all children educated and >>>> not just the upper class. Cut backs to education is going >>>> to hurt this country. There are many areas were we >>>> could make cuts but education should never be cut but >>>> increased. >>>> >>>> Taxes pay for schools, Prisons, Fire Fighters etc... Its >>>> funny how people complain about that until their house is >>>> on fire, or their neighbor is a child molester who isnt >>>> locked up in prison, or how their child is in a class room >>>> with 40 other kids and falling behind because they need >>>> more help and cant get it. People always complain until >>>> they are the ones who need that service provided.

Feb 23, 2011

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Busted!!!!!!!

by Terry from Nevada

Feb 22, 2011

We have all seen those doctors giving "phony-baloney" doctor's notes on the cable networks. Please heed this advice --- don't put yourself in a situation that will force your school district to deny your absence excuse. You would be the first one to be terminated from your job for FRAUD.

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lol WI university is investigating this and are already making plans to fire any of their doctors that were doing this. And they should be fired and prosecuted because they jsut knowingly and willingly commited fruad.

On 2/22/11, Terry from Nevada wrote: > We have all seen those doctors giving "phony-baloney" > doctor's notes on the cabl...See More

Feb 22, 2011

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Time for teacher's to pay their own way.

by DAY

Feb 22, 2011

It's time that you as other union member started to pay your own way and stop asking for higher taxes because you want everyone else who works to pay for your pension fund and health care. Just because you are a teacher that does not give you the right to rip off other workers because you are to cheap to pay your own way!

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