Our reading teacher tested my class last week and I have 14 low readers(don't know their whole alphabet), 3 medium level (know alphabet, can read a few words), and 3 high level (can read fluently). Will 4 blocks work for this group? What will I do for the fluent readers? Thank you for your ideas.
I don't know any teacher who doesn't have a class like you've described above. My suggestion to you is to buy/borrow The Teacher's Guide to the Four Blocks and then post here with any follow-up questions. To explain the entire framework on a message board would be unwieldy.
I had some children that could respond to fish with wish, king with ring, hat with cat, dog with log, etc.
Consider the ones who respond with "ish" to fish, "ing" to king, "zat" to hat and "mog" to dog.
The kids are coming up with rhyming "responses', but not real words. Is this because their vocabulary is lacking... or would you consider them at a "higher level" because they are being creative?. I'm just trying to get more information for my team.
I used to do rhyming stuff with young kids in music class frequently, and I found that they were often so focused on meeting one criteria (a rhyme sound) that they forgot about the other (an existing word). It was hard for some to generate ideas that addressed both requirements--that may be true for some of your kids, too.
On 9/07/08, Kaye wrote: > After you have given your class a rhyming assessment, I'm > sure you find similar responses as I did. Some have no > clue, and some seem to have the skill. > > I had some children that could respond to fish with wish, > king with ring, hat with cat, dog with log, etc. > > Consider the ones who respond with "ish" to fish, "ing" to > king, "zat" to hat and "mog" to dog. > > The kids are coming up with rhyming "responses', but not > real words. Is this because their vocabulary is lacking... > or would you consider them at a "higher level" because they > are being creative?. I'm just trying to get more > information for my team.
We are struggling in our district to find a reading level assessment that also tests comprehension, but doesn't take hours to administer. We tried DRA2 last year, but by fourth grade it was way to time consuming, and influenced by the teacher grading it. Thought I would ask here to see what people were using, and their opinions. Thanks.
I am considering doing the 4 Blocks model in my 2/3/4 split class. I have just read the Teacher's Guide and am wondering if the model would work for that spread? Also if anyone has any tips on getting started!? Thanks
I found everything fine except the word wall words. They were just too easy or too hard. I ended up doing individual lists based on the 1000 frequency words. I would assess the kids on sets of 25 and give them words as needed in sets of 5. They had regular spelling tests. My word wall was the words from that list that popped up in class. Otherwise it was great!
On 9/08/08, Sarah wrote: > I am considering doing the 4 Blocks model in my 2/3/4 split > class. I have just read the Teacher's Guide and am > wondering if the model would work for that spread? > Also if anyone has any tips on getting started!? > Thanks
I'm teaching a 2/3 split this year & am looking for a list of Word Wall Words to use with my class. In the past I've used both Month By Month Phonics for Grades 2 & 3 (individually) but, am looking for creative ideas as to how others have produced a 'combined' list....
I used the big classroom word wall differently, as I posted many words at once, and we used it like a giant dictionary... when doing writing conferences, if the word was on the wall, they had to correct it. It was basically the first 150 high frequency words, or what you might say were the first grade words and K popcorn words they should know already... those are the words everyone was ALWAYS responsible for!! After that, they had to refer to their folders for their words.
It just always seemed that the 5 words were too hard or too easy otherwise. I always have a wide range in a class. For example I might have gifted third graders AND learning disabled second graders. With that huge of a range, it just didn't make sense to have one wall!
On 9/14/08, Denise wrote: > I'm teaching a 2/3 split this year & am looking for a list > of Word Wall Words to use with my class. In the past I've > used both Month By Month Phonics for Grades 2 & 3 > (individually) but, am looking for creative ideas as to > how others have produced a 'combined' list....
mrsmoosie04On 9/14/08, Jessica wrote: > I have always had a combo class (even a 2-3-4), and have > generally not been able to do the www effectively! I hope > you figure out a way. I ended up grouping kids into two > groups and then giving them 5 words a week. They would > practice with a www partner, but only with the partner, not > as a wh...See MoreOn 9/14/08, Jessica wrote: > I have always had a combo class (even a 2-3-4), and have > generally not been able to do the www effectively! I hope > you figure out a way. I ended up grouping kids into two > groups and then giving them 5 words a week. They would > practice with a www partner, but only with the partner, not > as a whole class activity with me leading. The kids had to > take charge of their own learning. They also had individual > word walls that they kept in their writing folders and had > to refer to those regularly. I just used a regular manila > folder and would write in the 5 words for the week. Later, > they could do it. > > I used the big classroom word wall differently, as I posted > many words at once, and we used it like a giant > dictionary... when doing writing conferences, if the word > was on the wall, they had to correct it. It was basically > the first 150 high frequency words, or what you might say > were the first grade words and K popcorn words they should > know already... those are the words everyone was ALWAYS > responsible for!! After that, they had to refer to their > folders for their words. > > It just always seemed that the 5 words were too hard or too > easy otherwise. I always have a wide range in a class. For > example I might have gifted third graders AND learning > disabled second graders. With that huge of a range, it just > didn't make sense to have one wall!
*Thanks for the response Jessica. I appreciate the insight. Today when chosing the 5 new WWW I refered to both Gr.2&3 lists (4 Blocks). Then I did the 'pretest', introduced the correct spelling, & used my students' 'Writers' Journals' to gleam other words they misspelled in their writing...If the WWW were spelled correct on their 'pretest' I exempted those from individual lists and added words from their own 'writing'...Some kids had 10-15 words (max 10 for Gr.2's & max 15 for Gr.3s)while others had as few as 7 OR 8. I'm going to assign 'Word Work Buddies' for 'Friday Check-Ups' who will 'test' each other. I must admit that it was a lot of work to set up today...next time, I plan to have the new WWW list pre-photo copied. Then, I will cross off the words they 'ace' in the pretest and add only the words from their own writing.
> > > On 9/14/08, Denise wrote: >> I'm teaching a 2/3 split this year & am looking for a list >> of Word Wall Words to use with my class. In the past I've >> used both Month By Month Phonics for Grades 2 & 3 >> (individually) but, am looking for creative ideas as to >> how others have produced a 'combined' list.... >
Interested to know what everyone is trying new with Four Blocks this year. Trying to be more focused with conferences? Integrating new reading formats into Guided Reading, like Book Clubs? Finding a balance between what is being asked of you and what you know is good for children? Let's talk!
I tried doing www and on the back, but my lowest girl cried (she isn't reading at all and doesn't know all her letter sounds.) the others did fine. INstead I have had them using white boards and doing activities like singing the ww words, writing them in the air, using them during shared writing or a mini- lesson etc. I am not to the point where we spend 10 minutes a day, maybe 10 minutes 3-4 days a week, and a writing assignment the other 2 days, like doing rainbow words or word scrambles, word searches which I know aren't 4B. However, they do use the ww when writing and I refer to it when I write, so I think it's ok!
We started guess the covered word and the tongue twisters which they like. I am not ready for making words yet. We finished the biographies of each child and made a class book. I skipped the ABC books since the kids all pretty much passed the letter sounds and recognition on their assessments (except the one.) I also skipped those because we use another phonics program as well that is reviewing the sounds in another way.
GUIDED READING
I have done some big books and talked about them and do scholastic news. I need to reorder the scholastic news because the first grade is much, much to easy for over half the class! I am using predictable big books though, which they love. I am not getting to this every day either!
SSR
This is the worst! The kids are doing a great job reading alone, but I am having a hard time reading with them. I even have a TA in the room at this time. I am also trying to get around to everyone and have a tough time with it. I feel like they are making no progress. I don't even know everyone's reading levels yet and we have been in school 21 days. I have managed to do 3 running records! I did do an assessment on everyone regarding letter sounds and sight words, and all but 3 kids already made the END OF THE YEAR benchmarks- meaning all could read all 100 sight words. I am very lost as to where we go from here! I feel like I am managing too much to really be able to conference with everyone. I don't know what they are reading or anything! I think most are just looking at books. This is fine, but I think everyone should be reading every day! I don't know if they are or not! (We read the morning message every day together and directions to worksheets, the math problem of the day and guided reading when we do it, so there is a lot of reading happening, just not really so much during SSR!)
WRITING
I think this is going ok, but I am not sure how much to push them. Some kids want to stop at one sentence and others will write a whole page (primary lines) or more. I feel like 3 sentences is a good beginning but it's like pulling teeth to get it out of them. However, other teachers say their writing looks good. I want to get them into book publishing and writing stories but right now they are just doing "about my day" type things.
We have been in school 21 days and I feel like things should be moving along a little better. Please help if you can!
My schedule is a MESS!! I keep giving them more and more recess and inside choice time because they seem to need it so much. How are we going to get the academics in???
Check it out:
8:45-9:20 Arrival, morning work, choice time (art, legos, computer, etc.) 9:20-9:45 Morning meeting including calendar math- we read the morning message together 9:45-10:30- math 10:30-11 recess 11:00-11:15 snack/story or poems (I also have been doing some phonemic awareness stuff at this time.) 11:15-12:00 SSR/some guided reading 12:-12:45 lunch /recess 12:45-1:00 read aloud 1:00-1:30 writer's workshop 1:30-2:00 special 2:00-2:20 word work 2:20-2:40 recess 2:40-3:00 end of the day routine- cleaning, homework and read aloud
SO-- the problem is this is never actually the schedule! Some times I do math at 11:15, sometimes writing, etc. I have a TA at that time and try to utilize it as best I can.
There have also been lots of days when much of the day didn't happen- today for instance we had to spend like 35 minutes discussing recess behavior and didn't do reading at all!
I just don't seem to have time to get it all in. I was cutting back on the morning choice time and starting meeting at 9:05 but they were very antsy! I think 3 days a week I will try to do that. Then I can do more guided reading... any thoughts? I know this is a lot!
I also believe in flawless transitions....See MoreOne thing I always had to do was "build" my Self-Selected time. The first week or so of school, SSR was only about 5-10 minutes, until they could build the stamina to stay reading that long. We worked our way up to the full 20-25. I know with one class that took the entire first quarter. (Don't ask).
I also believe in flawless transitions. As I observe in buildings, I see so much wasted time in transitions (and bathroom breaks! but I digress...). This does take time to get in place at the beginning, but usually runs smoothly the 3rd or 4th week out.
JAM, former Title I teacherLegally they should not be pulling during your langauge block at all. Title is supposed to be added on to, not supplanting, classroom instruction and practice.
On 10/04/08, JAM, former Title I teacher wrote: > Legally they should not be pulling during your langauge > block at all. Title is supposed to be added on to, not > supplanting, classroom instruction and practice. > > Can they pull during social studies or science? > > JAM
I was at a workshop and a teacher told us how she uses 4 blocks in writing. Has anyone used this and does it really help students? I have a group of students who just came out of ESL and they really need some writing framework. Does anyone have a good link or resource that teaches you step by step what to do?