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Adult Children Overseas

by Insight

Jul 4, 2016

Anyone have adult children with them or have taken them with you? Over 21.

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If disabled to the point of being incapable of self-support, and dependent on you, then over age 21 adult children can be on your orders anywhere that DoDDS can assign you.

If not the above situation, then over age 21 adult children cannot be on your asssignment orders so cannot get RAT and cannot live with you in ON-base military family h...See More

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Insight On 7/04/16, reality sheriff wrote: > If disabled to the point of being incapable of self- support, > and dependent on you, then over age 21 adult children can > be on your orders anywhere that DoDDS can assign you. > > If not the above situation, then over age 21 adult children > cannot be on your asssignment orders so cannot get ...See More

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Over age 23, no more gov't benefits, period, even if they are not yet finished with college. If you wish your over age 23 child to accompany you, then your child will have to negotiate the respective country's foreigner-resident visa application and comply with its rules. You will have to live OFF base in order to have your child live with you. Thi...See MoreOver age 23, no more gov't benefits, period, even if they are not yet finished with college. If you wish your over age 23 child to accompany you, then your child will have to negotiate the respective country's foreigner-resident visa application and comply with its rules. You will have to live OFF base in order to have your child live with you. This shouldn't be a show-stopper problem because DoDDS teachers routinely live off base, especially in Europe. However, there is one DoDDS location, Guantanamo Bay Naval Station Cuba, that has *no* OFF base access so there is no choice for you to live off base, so, your over age 23 child cannot go to GTMO Bay to reside, period (visits of not more than 30 days are allowed). A recommendation is that you *not* accept any interviews for the school at GTMO Bay if it is imperative that your adult child live with you.

On 7/04/16, Insight wrote: > On 7/04/16, reality sheriff wrote: >> If disabled to the point of being incapable of self- > support, >> and dependent on you, then over age 21 adult children can >> be on your orders anywhere that DoDDS can assign you. >> >> If not the above situation, then over age 21 adult children >> cannot be on your asssignment orders so cannot get RAT >> and cannot live with you in ON-base military family housing >> and cannot access ON base shopping and other facilties. >> That said, *if* between 21 and 23 *and* *also* are full > time >> college enrolled student working on a degree, then they >> can live with you in ON base housing and they can, >> usually, access ON base shopping and other facilities >> *and* they are elegible for one gov't paid roud trip > between >> your assignment and their college (but not RAT). >> >> If not FT college enrolled under age 23 and/or if over 23, >> then you need to consult each country under consideration >> because your child needs the respective foreign country's >> residence visa/permit to reside long term in that country >> whether with you in one residence, or not. >> >> Thats so helpful thank you... but what 'if' your child is a > FT college student over 23??? Not everyone graduates at 22 > (especially if they do the GAP year thing) > THanks >> >> On 7/04/16, Insight wrote: >>> Anyone have adult children with them or have taken >> them >>> with you? Over 21.

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Sam Do the same rules apply to disabled family members? If so,
what documentation is necessary?

On 7/04/16, reality sheriff wrote:
> Over age 23, no more gov't benefits, period, even if they
are
> not yet finished with college. If you wish your over age
> 23
child
> to accompany you, then your child w...See More

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Each situation is individually evaluated. Adult children incapable of self support ~can~ be, and are, approved to be on many DoDDS teachers' assignment orders. The evaluation process of whether a DoDDS teacher can actually bring their adult children who are being claimed as incapable of self support to a given assignment location will consider/depe...See MoreEach situation is individually evaluated. Adult children incapable of self support ~can~ be, and are, approved to be on many DoDDS teachers' assignment orders. The evaluation process of whether a DoDDS teacher can actually bring their adult children who are being claimed as incapable of self support to a given assignment location will consider/depend, primariy, on whether the destination has all the supports required. (And, such evaluations also occur for the children (both minor or adult) of active duty military personnel who are being considered for overseas assignments). So, *if* the destination in question has all the supports needed, then adult children incapable of self support are normally approved to accompany. Otoh, if the destination cannot support the needs of the person with the disability(ies), then approval to accompany will not happen. If disapproved, then, and only perhaps, there will be a different overseas location w/ a qualifying vacancy that the teacher w/ the adult child incapable of self support can be assigned to. But, other aprovable, locations are not guaranteed, so some DoDDS teachers do resign or retire back to the States in such circumstances or, they make arrangements for ongoing care to happen elsewhere, usually back in the States. The documentation required to establish that an adult child is incapable of self support is largely Medical/Psych/Mobility/PT/OT/etc. Seek more general information at OPM's health insurances page here; specifically see the section on Child Incapable of Self Support:

https://www.opm.gov/healthcare- insurance/healthcare/reference-materials/reference/family- members/

(remove any spaces and retry if the link doesn't work after pasting, else, google for "OPM Child Incapable of Self Support")

And, because overseas DoD locations are the norm for DoDDS teachers, also gather information about overseas eligibility, forms used, POCs for EU and PAC, and etc. from this document (it's Navy but is DoD-wide representative) about the EFMP, Exceptional Family Member Program:

http://www.cnic.navy.mil/content/dam/cnic/cnreurafswa/pdfs/ EFMP/EFM&37;20Guide.pdf

(else, google for "EFMP Exceptional Family Member Program")

On 7/05/16, Sam wrote: > Do the same rules apply to disabled family members? If so, > what documentation is necessary? > > > On 7/04/16, reality sheriff wrote: >> Over age 23, no more gov't benefits, period, even if they > are >> not yet finished with college. If you wish your over age >> 23 > child >> to accompany you, then your child will have to negotiate > the >> respective country's foreigner-resident visa application >> and comply with its rules. You will have to live OFF base >> in > order to >> have your child live with you. This shouldn't be a show- > stopper >> problem because DoDDS teachers routinely live off base, >> especially in Europe. However, there is one DoDDS > location, >> Guantanamo Bay Naval Station Cuba, that has *no* OFF > base >> access so there is no choice for you to live off base, >> so, > your >> over age 23 child cannot go to GTMO Bay to reside, period >> (visits of not more than 30 days are allowed). A >> recommendation is that you *not* accept any interviews >> for > the >> school at GTMO Bay if it is imperative that your adult >> child > live >> with you. >> >> On 7/04/16, Insight wrote: >>> On 7/04/16, reality sheriff wrote: >>>> If disabled to the point of being incapable of self- >>> support, >>>> and dependent on you, then over age 21 adult children > can >>>> be on your orders anywhere that DoDDS can assign > you. >>>> >>>> If not the above situation, then over age 21 adult > children >>>> cannot be on your asssignment orders so cannot get > RAT >>>> and cannot live with you in ON-base military family > housing >>>> and cannot access ON base shopping and other > facilties. >>>> That said, *if* between 21 and 23 *and* *also* are full >>> time >>>> college enrolled student working on a degree, then they >>>> can live with you in ON base housing and they can, >>>> usually, access ON base shopping and other facilities >>>> *and* they are elegible for one gov't paid roud trip >>> between >>>> your assignment and their college (but not RAT). >>>> >>>> If not FT college enrolled under age 23 and/or if over >>>> 23, then you need to consult each country under > consideration >>>> because your child needs the respective foreign > country's >>>> residence visa/permit to reside long term in that >>>> country whether with you in one residence, or not. >>>> >>>> Thats so helpful thank you... but what 'if' your child >>>> is a >>> FT college student over 23??? Not everyone graduates at > 22 >>> (especially if they do the GAP year thing) THanks >>>> >>>> On 7/04/16, Insight wrote: >>>>> Anyone have adult children with them or have taken >>>> them >>>>> with you? Over 21.

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