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C4 - Pre-assessment as Formative

by mdstarks

Feb 21, 2017

Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative is During instruction but if the kids have it to use during the unit then doesn't that change things?

I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were given back to show areas where improvement was needed and those which demonstrated grade level skills. Students then worked with exemplars and listed goals for the unit.

Isn't this a Formative Assessment when it is more than just me using the pre-assessment to plan from?

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Jenny On 2/21/17, mdstarks wrote: > Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative > is During instruction but if the kids have it to use > during the unit then doesn't that change things? > > I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were > given back to show areas where improvement was > needed and those which demonstrated gr...See More

Mar 18, 2017

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What Works From the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the data to inform instruction/plan next steps.

I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the formative a...See MoreFrom the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the data to inform instruction/plan next steps.

I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the formative assessment to learn what they can do better. However, I'm not so sure about the last statement that the formative and summative can be the same assessment. A pretest (given BEFORE any instruction has taken place and covering ALL the objectives of a unit) and a summative COULD be the same test IF they both address the same objectives for the WHOLE unit.

If one assumes that the info/data from a formative assessment will inform instruction, there is an assumption that instruction will continue. The formative assessment has measured learning to a certain point in a unit of study, but not to the END of it. If instruction continues, then there would be remediation of objectives not achieved on the formative assessment and/or new instruction on the remaining objective(s) of the unit. Therefore summative assessment would measure learning for the WHOLE unit of study, not just part of it.

In a nutshell, the formative measures learning to a certain point WITHIN the unit and summative measures learning at the end for the ENTIRE unit.

Ultimately, it's the teacher who decides what fits the parameters of formative, summative, and the requirements the component and makes their case. I hope I didn't muddy the waters too much more, but this is the way I view the types of assessment within the NB definitions.

On 3/18/17, Jenny wrote: > On 2/21/17, mdstarks wrote: >> Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative >> is During instruction but if the kids have it to use >> during the unit then doesn't that change things? >> >> I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were >> given back to show areas where improvement was >> needed and those which demonstrated grade level >> skills. Students then worked with exemplars and >> listed goals for the unit. >> >> Isn't this a Formative Assessment when it is more >> than just me using the pre-assessment to plan >> from? > > It is the USE of assessment that determines whether it is > summative or formative. If you are using it to inform > instruction, it is considered formative. Sometimes the same > assessment is both summative as well as formative.

Mar 18, 2017

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allie Ok. Just to clarify below because I have a similar situation. In my unit, we have many goals, one of which is my student goal-being able to write with detail. The students are practicing writing with detail about quotes and then self-assessing themselves after every 3 chapters. The summative would be the same as the formative assessment of quotes t...See MoreOk. Just to clarify below because I have a similar situation. In my unit, we have many goals, one of which is my student goal-being able to write with detail. The students are practicing writing with detail about quotes and then self-assessing themselves after every 3 chapters. The summative would be the same as the formative assessment of quotes to summarize, but a random group of quotes from the book to prove to me they can do the skill before writing their finals paragraphs. Essentially, the formative and summative would look the same, and ask the students to do the same, but the quotes would be different.

On 3/18/17, What Works wrote: > From the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just > what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a > formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order > to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the > data to inform instruction/plan next steps. > > I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the > formative assessment to learn what they can do better. > However, I'm not so sure about the last statement that the > formative and summative can be the same assessment. A > pretest (given BEFORE any instruction has taken place and > covering ALL the objectives of a unit) and a summative > COULD be the same test IF they both address the same > objectives for the WHOLE unit. > > If one assumes that the info/data from a formative > assessment will inform instruction, there is an assumption > that instruction will continue. The formative assessment has > measured learning to a certain point in a unit of study, but > not to the END of it. If instruction continues, then there > would be remediation of objectives not achieved on the > formative assessment and/or new instruction on the > remaining objective(s) of the unit. Therefore summative > assessment would measure learning for the WHOLE unit of > study, not just part of it. > > In a nutshell, the formative measures learning to a certain > point WITHIN the unit and summative measures learning at > the end for the ENTIRE unit. > > Ultimately, it's the teacher who decides what fits the > parameters of formative, summative, and the requirements > the component and makes their case. I hope I didn't muddy > the waters too much more, but this is the way I view the > types of assessment within the NB definitions. > > > > On 3/18/17, Jenny wrote: >> On 2/21/17, mdstarks wrote: >>> Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative >>> is During instruction but if the kids have it to use >>> during the unit then doesn't that change things? >>> >>> I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were >>> given back to show areas where improvement was >>> needed and those which demonstrated grade level >>> skills. Students then worked with exemplars and >>> listed goals for the unit. >>> >>> Isn't this a Formative Assessment when it is more >>> than just me using the pre-assessment to plan >>> from? >> >> It is the USE of assessment that determines whether it is >> summative or formative. If you are using it to inform >> instruction, it is considered formative. Sometimes the > same >> assessment is both summative as well as formative.

Mar 23, 2017

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