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K grade needs more time

by Hmmm

Nov 13, 2013

I am at a school where the K grade is there for about 25 minutes for art, total 'argh' on time constraints and trying to accomplish something. Setup and cleanup takes chunks of time from start to finish. Using cool color paints the boys hands and arms looked like blue smurfs as no time for them to wash their hands. Cleanup for water/brushes/artwork...See More

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artme On 11/13/13, Hmmm wrote: > I am at a school where the K grade is there for about 25 > minutes for art, total 'argh' on time constraints and > trying to accomplish something. Setup and cleanup takes > chunks of time from start to finish. Using cool color > paints the boys hands and arms looked like blue smurfs as > no time for them...See More

Nov 13, 2013

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Hmmm Thanks for the cleanup tips, yeah the 25 minutes class once allowed just enough time present the new project (starry night w/painted background) to put their names on their papers and give them back to me. Five minutes to go in class, and it was not worth even getting the paint trays out. One mother already blew a fit because her son went home and ...See MoreThanks for the cleanup tips, yeah the 25 minutes class once allowed just enough time present the new project (starry night w/painted background) to put their names on their papers and give them back to me. Five minutes to go in class, and it was not worth even getting the paint trays out. One mother already blew a fit because her son went home and had blue hands with corresponding stained sleeves. No time to even really clean up properly.

Then the two K teachers then question me why their kindergarteners still cannot draw very well in their classes. Well, I only see them during a week for two 25 minute sessions and was hired about 40 days ago. "they cannot draw"...... go figure.

The librarian is still trying to get the K schedule re-worked, she does not even have time to do a lesson and a book checkout. So concern is growing in the related arts about the K schedule.

On 11/13/13, artme wrote: > On 11/13/13, Hmmm wrote: >> I am at a school where the K grade is there for about 25 >> minutes for art, total 'argh' on time constraints and >> trying to accomplish something. Setup and cleanup takes >> chunks of time from start to finish. Using cool color >> paints the boys hands and arms looked like blue smurfs as >> no time for them to wash their hands. Cleanup for >> water/brushes/artworks was pretty much done by me so >> students would remain sitting, so we could use max time for >> working. >> >> Talked to the librarian and she thinks combining both K >> groups into 50 minute session may be in the works as long >> as the other related arts teachers approve. Larger class of >> kids but more time to work on art. I'm willing to give it a >> try just so the kiddos can work longer and finish a project. >> > I have 40 minute art classes for k's- after many years with 30 > minute classes. I love it. I have just slowed the pace way > down and it's working great. Sometimes we start with a book > related to the lesson. For clean up with k's, I pass out baby > wipes and tell them to clean their hands first and then the > table. It works well. Older kids can handle the sink. 25 > minutes is pretty crazy. I hope you can work out a different > schedule

Nov 16, 2013

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ceramics ?

by tcher

Nov 14, 2013

I know you aren't supposed to glaze the bottom of pottery, but I have seen some that is glazed on the bottom. Any one know how it is done?

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Cberger On 11/15/13, tcher wrote: > On 11/14/13, Cberger wrote: >> On 11/14/13, tcher wrote: >>> >> >> There are little steel-pointed objects called stilts, which >> hold the clay object up and prevent it from adhering to the >> kiln shelf when fired. > > > I am familiar with stilts, but when I tried it so...See More

Nov 15, 2013

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Ceramicia If your glaze is running that bad it may be old or was used too often without stirring and key ingredients were used up or absent after constant use. You need the right percentages with the flux, silica, and alumina to keep the runny glaze issues to a minimum. If a glaze is sitting around for awhile you need to strain it with a fine mesh and mix we...See More

Nov 16, 2013

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Mixing 2 clay bodies? Help!

by Josie

Nov 15, 2013

My last box of clay that I thought was Amaco low fire red, is really Amaco low fire white. My 5th graders coil pots are 3/4 finished.....Can I let them finish with the white, or will shrinkage be an issue? Anyone ever tried this?

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Hmmm... Should be okay. Pretty much any claybody will lowfire bisque together. So you can mix hi and low clay as long as they are joined properly with slit or not allow to set too long as shrinkage can factor in and crack at the joined seems. Now if you high fire your greenware mixed hi & low wares (upwards of cones: 8,9, 10+) that's when whacky stuff ...See More

Dec 11, 2013

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Josie Thank you all....It worked! :)

Dec 12, 2013

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Not Working???!!!

by Frustrated Artsy Teacher

Nov 20, 2013

What do you do to motivate kids in art? I have a few that simply will not work and the rest seem to be loafers. I think I need to be meaner and give them a kick in the you know where. My kids like to talk and play too much. Many have uncompleted assignments. The past 2 months they have only done 3 assignments. I have decide not to give anymore make...See More

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Frustrated Artsy Teacher On 11/21/13, SH wrote: > What grades do you teach? What are some examples of your > projects? Are YOU excited about them? Where or how do you > find your project ideas? > > Can you give a little more info about your students? > > SH >

I teach middle school. The assignments had been dealing with using line and shap...See More

Nov 21, 2013

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Ceramicia My kids in elementary love my lessons. Yet it may be because the former art teacher taught snow flake making for many weeks, sometimes lectured all class period(s) taught gardening ethics, and cooking techniques.

Yet in the same sense these elementary kids as a whole don't really have a good work ethic all class period (or for cleanup), a...See More

Nov 21, 2013

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incorporating art history

by incorporating

Nov 23, 2013

How many of you incorporate art history into your various high school art classes? How much time do you spend with it and how in-depth do you go with it?

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Josie On 12/05/13, incorporating wrote: > On 12/02/13, Josie wrote: >> On 11/23/13, incorporating wrote: >>> How many of you incorporate art history into your various >>> high school art classes? How much time do you spend with it >>> and how in-depth do you go with it? >> >> I do in about 90% of my lessons...See More

Dec 6, 2013

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Earbuds in the art room

by ClearArt

Apr 28, 2014

How many of you allow music in the art room? I've tried music playing out loud for the whole class and it has caused complaining amongst some students. I've even tried allowing students that ask to listen to their own music when I'm not instructing. This is typically when they are working at their seats. However, I gave them an inch and they are ta...See More

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Splucky I would let the student earn the privilege. They had to prove they were good workers and good students. This seemed to help a lot because they all wanted to listen to their music. My pet peeve would be the two kids who share the music with one bud in each kid's head. They would argue over the next song. So not only did it have to be a good producti...See MoreI would let the student earn the privilege. They had to prove they were good workers and good students. This seemed to help a lot because they all wanted to listen to their music. My pet peeve would be the two kids who share the music with one bud in each kid's head. They would argue over the next song. So not only did it have to be a good productive class as a whole then each student had to prove they could handle it.

n 4/29/14, Josie wrote: > I play music---but not all of the time. I usually do it on days > when students are drawing/doing something that requires > concentration and I want the room quiet. I then hold them > accountable for being silent and put on pandora. No complaints > about the music or it goes off. You only have to do it once to > make a point.... Ear buds---tried it one year and never again. > It was a slippery slope and a pain in the rear. > > On 4/29/14, artsmmo wrote: >> I teach elementary...I play music in the art room always. I >> choose the music ( usually mellow ,alternative, clean pop or >> something related to our art lesson). I tell them up front no >> complaints about the songs or I will bring in my Barney CD. We >> now have complaint free art!! I do shut it off if they are >> misbehaving. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/29/14, hmm... wrote: >>> On 4/28/14, ClearArt wrote: >>>> How many of you allow music in the art room? I've tried >>>> music playing out loud for the whole class and it has caused >>>> complaining amongst some students. I've even tried allowing >>>> students that ask to listen to their own music when I'm not >>>> instructing. This is typically when they are working at >>>> their seats. However, I gave them an inch and they are >>>> taking a mile. Phones are out all the time and I feel like >>>> I'm fighting a losing battle. Any opinions on this topic? >>>> Any suggestions how we can have music without the texting >>>> and gaming? It does help many students to concentrate when >>>> listening to music. >>>> >>>> >>> I taught at an alternative school with music (ipods)in the >>> art room allowed by the principal, and it was a benefit to >>> some kids who like to be off by themselves in another >>> reality. However we had thefts and or fights of music players >>> and it was counter productive. The only out loud music that >>> semi-works (still with some complaining) is instrumental or >>> classical. One art teacher I knew used NPR as it had a lot of >>> talk show format converstation and the students would listen >>> along. Try a audio book broadcast through your computer >>> instead of music, Harry Potter & Lord of the Rings or >>> something rated G or PG. Yeah I can see the phones being an >>> issue, cut off the student use before someone reports a >>> missing phone and says you allowed them to use phones in >>> class. I teach elementary and do not miss the drama of those >>> old days.

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gwynnetx I teach elementary, and we as the Fine Arts and PE teachers have elected not to allow students to bring electronics to our classrooms. That said, I do put on music every once in a while. I usually try to play some kind of world music, and it's usually dance or drum heavy because that's what I personally like. I try to "sell" it to the kids before I...See More

May 1, 2014

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Time to hide your large paper!

by Hmmm...

Apr 25, 2014

Testing time again, teachers stopping by the artroom looking for "large paper to cover their walls because they are too lazy to take down their posters, learning aids, and info visuals. I ended up stuffing an entire roll of 120 lb card stock in my truck and taking it home or it would have been cut up while I turned my back.

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artsmmo I actually had to laugh at this one!! Fellow art teachers share your pain (pains)!! My favorite is when they stop by to get some tissue paper for their gifts bags or to wrap mothers day presents!!!!

On 4/25/14, Hmmm... wrote: > Testing time again, teachers stopping by the artroom > looking for "large paper to cover their walls becaus...See More

Apr 25, 2014

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arty23 Or ask you to MAKE mother's day gifts for their students. Ugh.

On 4/25/14, artsmmo wrote: > I actually had to laugh at this one!! Fellow art teachers > share your pain (pains)!! My favorite is when they stop by to > get some tissue paper for their gifts bags or to wrap mothers > day presents!!!! > > > > > On 4/25...See More

Apr 25, 2014

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Art materials

by J.A.

Apr 10, 2014

Hi There, I am a child development substitute teacher for school-age children; I go from center to center each day. I enjoy doing art activities with young children and I don’t mind cleaning up after them. I strongly believe that visual and sensory arts are most important to young children to have hand on experiences. These types of arts benefit ...See More

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Artcharm On 4/17/14, J.A. wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > Thank you so much for your idea. I will definitely try out > your idea on paper sculpture. > > Thanks again. > J.A. > > > > > On 4/11/14, Jennifer wrote: >> Clay or other similar media. My students Love using clay! >> Paper for sculpture- I use all my scrap papers...See MoreOn 4/17/14, J.A. wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > Thank you so much for your idea. I will definitely try out > your idea on paper sculpture. > > Thanks again. > J.A. > > > > > On 4/11/14, Jennifer wrote: >> Clay or other similar media. My students Love using clay! >> Paper for sculpture- I use all my scrap papers for two >> things: collage and "paper sculpture". I show them how to >> bend, fold, curl, etc., paper to make things such as a >> playground or park. They love that and use scissors to cut >> and masking tape to hold it all together. I also collect >> interesting papers with patterns/textures for collage. I >> love collage and the kids do too! >> >> On 4/10/14, J.A. wrote: >>> Hi There, >>> I am a child development substitute teacher for school- age >>> children; I go from center to center each day. I enjoy >>> doing art activities with young children and I don’t mind >>> cleaning up after them. I strongly believe that visual and >>> sensory arts are most important to young children to have >>> hand on experiences. These types of arts benefit >>> children’s development in all aspects. Teacher should >>> always have art and painting activities for children to >>> engage with each day. Young children enjoy the process of >>> creating and playing with art materials rather than seeing >>> the end product outcome. Most often they value their art >>> activities as most important thing so that they can show to >>> their teacher or parents. As they engage in art >>> activities, they learn to develop awareness, self- >>> confidence, and able to appreciate the beautiful >>> surrounding. It is vital that the teacher chooses the >>> right type of art activities to engage with children during >>> the day. Most children experience and recognize art >>> products such as glue, paste, paint, clay, crayon, and >>> chalk to express their ideas and feelings thru these >>> products. I see that these art products are so limited and >>> some children especially the boys get bored with those >>> items so fast. >>> Does anybody have any ideas what other products beside the >>> above listed that we can use to make children learn to >>> value and have long-lasting interest in art activities? >>> Your feedback is appreciated.

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Artcharm On 4/21/14, Artcharm wrote: > On 4/17/14, J.A. wrote: >> Hi Jennifer, >> Thank you so much for your idea. I will definitely try out >> your idea on paper sculpture. >> >> Thanks again. >> J.A. >> >> >> >> >> On 4/11/14, Jennifer wrote: >>> Clay or other similar media. My ...See MoreOn 4/21/14, Artcharm wrote: > On 4/17/14, J.A. wrote: >> Hi Jennifer, >> Thank you so much for your idea. I will definitely try out >> your idea on paper sculpture. >> >> Thanks again. >> J.A. >> >> >> >> >> On 4/11/14, Jennifer wrote: >>> Clay or other similar media. My students Love using clay! >>> Paper for sculpture- I use all my scrap papers for two >>> things: collage and "paper sculpture". I show them how to >>> bend, fold, curl, etc., paper to make things such as a >>> playground or park. They love that and use scissors to cut >>> and masking tape to hold it all together. I also collect >>> interesting papers with patterns/textures for collage. I >>> love collage and the kids do too! > >>> On 4/10/14, J.A. wrote: >>>> Hi There, >>>> I am a child development substitute teacher for school- > age >>>> children; I go from center to center each day. I enjoy >>>> doing art activities with young children and I don’t mind >>>> cleaning up after them. I strongly believe that visual and >>>> sensory arts are most important to young children to have >>>> hand on experiences. These types of arts benefit >>>> children’s development in all aspects. Teacher should >>>> always have art and painting activities for children to >>>> engage with each day. Young children enjoy the process > of >>>> creating and playing with art materials rather than seeing >>>> the end product outcome. Most often they value their art >>>> activities as most important thing so that they can show to >>>> their teacher or parents. As they engage in art >>>> activities, they learn to develop awareness, self- >>>> confidence, and able to appreciate the beautiful >>>> surrounding. It is vital that the teacher chooses the >>>> right type of art activities to engage with children during >>>> the day. Most children experience and recognize art >>>> products such as glue, paste, paint, clay, crayon, and >>>> chalk to express their ideas and feelings thru these >>>> products. I see that these art products are so limited and >>>> some children especially the boys get bored with those >>>> items so fast. >>>> Does anybody have any ideas what other products beside > the >>>> above listed that we can use to make children learn to >>>> value and have long-lasting interest in art activities? >>>> Your feedback is appreciated.

Printmaking! Have students collect natural and man-made objects with interesting textures. Try rubbings (frottage), stamping and collagraph printing. Also: assemblage with found objects, cardboard constructions, weaving with recycled plastic bags~

Apr 21, 2014

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is enrollment an issue?

by an issue

Apr 8, 2014

I was wondering how many of you who teach high school have an issue with enrollment numbers affecting the classes you teach. I teach at a small school with a huge number of non-visual arts electives in addition to what my department offers. In effect, our department is in competition with every other elective. Some of our teachers have it made, whe...See More

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D$3 elm to middle school enrollment is a big challenge for us. As is ms to high school enrollment.

On 4/11/14, an issue wrote: > On 4/08/14, an issue wrote: >> I was wondering how many of you who teach high school have >> an issue with enrollment numbers affecting the classes you >> teach. I teach at a small school with a ...See More

Apr 14, 2014

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an issue Can you explain? On 4/14/14, D$3 wrote: > elm to middle school enrollment is a big challenge for us. As is > ms to high school enrollment. > > > On 4/11/14, an issue wrote: >> On 4/08/14, an issue wrote: >>> I was wondering how many of you who teach high school have >>> an issue with enrollment numbers affecti...See More

Apr 16, 2014

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Inclusion questions

by Josie

Apr 4, 2014

I have a student who is in a wheelchair and is not able to use his arms/hands. He is non-verbal but understands what you say to him. He tries to speak, but it is extremely difficult to understand. He is sent to art class with his regular ed 6th grade classmates, but no matter how much I modify a projcet, he is unable to participate and the aid ends...See More

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ArtsyFarty I would advise doing what you can, but if he's in there mainly to socialize, try to create ways that the other students can interact with him. Check with his teacher to see if having other students try some hand over hand or including him some art games (maybe paired with another student) would be okay.

Also realize that your goals and hi...See MoreI would advise doing what you can, but if he's in there mainly to socialize, try to create ways that the other students can interact with him. Check with his teacher to see if having other students try some hand over hand or including him some art games (maybe paired with another student) would be okay.

Also realize that your goals and his goals are probably not the same. I know from experience that that is sometimes hard to accept/realize/remember because you feel guilty that he's not producing art. But if his teacher is telling you that his number 1 goal for attending art class is socialization, then perhaps the differentiation that you should try to provide is more towards getting him interacting with the other kids and less about experiencing art creation. That said, I admire your quest to find something in which he can be successful art-wise. That can be a real challenge sometimes!

On 4/04/14, Josie wrote: > I have a student who is in a wheelchair and is not able to > use his arms/hands. He is non-verbal but understands what > you say to him. He tries to speak, but it is extremely > difficult to understand. He is sent to art class with his > regular ed 6th grade classmates, but no matter how much I > modify a projcet, he is unable to participate and the aid > ends up doing the work for him. I recently asked his > teacher if I could have him do something in the room > completely different.... fingerpaint or shaving cream. He > can't open his fists, but I thought he could at least try > to move his fists around in the paint and that the tactile > sensation would encourage him to move his hand. (He can > grasp a paintbrush but will just sit it on the paper > unable to move it.) His teacher says he does not want him > to do a separate activity (it would have to be at another > table) becuase he is in the room mainly to socialize with > his peers, but the students have a difficult time > interacting with him. What can I do to get them to talk > to him (even though he can't talk back...) It's hard for > them to understand. I just feel so bad for him having to > come to art and have everyone around him use chalk, paint, > clay etc. and he is not really participating. Any > suggestions would be great.

Apr 6, 2014

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