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ece associate degree on line programs

by montmo

Jan 16, 2011

In order to keep my program licensed, I need to either do the CDA thing or get an associate's degree in ece. Our state does not recognize my ece training since the paperwork for the university does not match that of the state's. I have decades of experience in the field as a teacher, administrator and mentor so any program should be ok. I just have to find a program that I can ask if it will count for state licensing if I complete the requirements. We live in a town that has both a community college and university that offer both associates and bachelors. However, my personal time for going to classes is very limited right now and I would rather just do it on line when I can work on it when the family is asleep.

Do any of you have suggestions of programs I can consider? I have no idea which ones are legit. Thanks for any ideas!

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Schari So with your BA, it sounds like you likely already have a lot of the classes you need for your Associate's in ECE.

That's crazy that your BA doesn't count for something, even though not in ECE.

Of course I don't understand your situation fully, but I think I'd go for the AA in ECE if I were you and wanted to stay in ECE.

...See MoreSo with your BA, it sounds like you likely already have a lot of the classes you need for your Associate's in ECE.

That's crazy that your BA doesn't count for something, even though not in ECE.

Of course I don't understand your situation fully, but I think I'd go for the AA in ECE if I were you and wanted to stay in ECE.

On 1/18/11, montmo wrote: > Well, I already have my BA but it is not in ece. When I got my > later training through a university's continuuing education program > in a specialized ece program at that time I could only count the > one ece class that the professor from the university "taught' as > part of my Master's At the time I wasn't sure if I wanted to go > into elementary, special ed or stay in ece. We moved and I > obviously never pursued any of those. I love my age group and I had > planned on staying with that until retirement which will probably > be in about 10 years maybe. > > Now, I am considering after 30 years in the field of just going > into something totally different to complete my professional > career. Like I had said in my earlier post we have both a community > college and a major public university locally that both offer > either the Associates at the cc or up to a PHD at the university. > > I am in Indiana. Here my qualifications mean nothing to the state > licensing board. I am at the same level as an 18 year old with a > GED with no work experience. I have gone through the university I > got the certification in, no response after the initial contact > They were hoping that my inquiries elsewhere would pan out and then > lay the groundwork for others in the future. The state just says no > and that's it. No explanation except that since the program did not > issue letter grades, they don't count. I have had no one to speak > up for me. The couple that have ran into the same wall that I did > and gave up. They just tell me to go to the free CDA classes for a > year they offer locally. So, I just let time lapse and now I am > entering crunch time and I have a year to complete something, I > have not been impressed with any of the classes I have had to > attend for any of the licensing stuff and the idea of sitting in on > those CDA classes year after year is just not appealing. This whole > mess is so discouraging to me. > > So, it looks like I should go the on line route. I usually wrap > those classes up pretty quickly. I was just looking for something > that would pass(being accredited) for the state. I guess I could > approach the governor or the state attorney general but I guess > that is overkill with all the stuff they are dealing with. lol So, > I guess this battle will have to be won by the next person who runs > into this. I have too many other things to deal with right now. > > I have heard Phoenix was really expensive and I only know the > Walden one from the pop up ad that shows up all the time. Thanks if > you have any ideas for me.

Jan 19, 2011

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montmo On 1/19/11, Schari wrote: > So with your BA, it sounds like you likely already have a lot of the > classes you need for your Associate's in ECE. > > That's crazy that your BA doesn't count for something, even though not > in ECE. > > Of course I don't understand your situation fully, but I think I'd go > for the AA in ECE if...See MoreOn 1/19/11, Schari wrote: > So with your BA, it sounds like you likely already have a lot of the > classes you need for your Associate's in ECE. > > That's crazy that your BA doesn't count for something, even though not > in ECE. > > Of course I don't understand your situation fully, but I think I'd go > for the AA in ECE if I were you and wanted to stay in ECE. >

Thanks, Shari: The state already looked at my transcripts from my BA which was in liberal arts, specifically interior design and art history. My ece credit they would recognize was the one that I paid for the credit towards a Master's degree when I got my specialized ece training back in the early 90's. That was the only credit I could "pay" for that would count as an actual college credit at that time as that was the first year the program was offered. They said the word 'child" had to be in the class description and none of mine did. I would have thought the two electives I took in oral interpretation might have counted. (That is actually storytelling using literature)

The continuuing education class was a year long including my internship that was nine months. The summer session was six weeks 8-5 in the classroom and there were also labs to do in the evenings. We also had four 4 day weekends through our internship, plus tests in all areas of the curriculum and philosophy including classroom management (That I actually taught in later years there at the university twice) and other areas of working in this age group. It was a very thorough program in preparing me for my work. I have attended numerous workshops and actually presenteda couple at different colleges and universities, but I didn't need CDA credits so I never turned in the forms. In our state if one has a preschool that is not church affliliated and is not day care, there is not a license to get. (it falls under the same category as home schooling which has been VERY big here for decades). So when we closed our big facility a couple years ago, downsized the numbers and I completed licensing requirements to run the school out of my home. However, it has been one huge pain having to take all these classes just to get the license. I think it is very ironic that the state was ok that I could run a school with 40 students but I am not qualified to have 10 children doing the exact same thing in my home.(The state did visit my school one summer when a local day care reported us for operating a day care without a license which we were not doing. They left very impressed with the facility and program) Makes no sense, but I guess when it comes to government stuff, it doesn't have to.

I might check and see if either the cc or local university where I got my BA has on line courses available in ece. That might cut down the hours I would need to attend class. Maybe a self study? I don't know. It is just so time consuming to find out all this stuff when it seems like the majority of the time is spent playing phone tag.

I will check back here to see if any other advice shows up. thanks, again. montmo

Jan 19, 2011

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Schari I absolutely agree and emphathize with you on the govt. rules. Seems there is no room for handling things in a different way if the situation is different. We each have to fit the same cookie cutter. Frustrates me too. It seems ludicrous in your situation. Sorry it is this way for you.

On 1/19/11, montmo wrote: > On 1/19/11, Schari wrot...See MoreI absolutely agree and emphathize with you on the govt. rules. Seems there is no room for handling things in a different way if the situation is different. We each have to fit the same cookie cutter. Frustrates me too. It seems ludicrous in your situation. Sorry it is this way for you.

On 1/19/11, montmo wrote: > On 1/19/11, Schari wrote: >> So with your BA, it sounds like you likely already have a lot of the >> classes you need for your Associate's in ECE. >> >> That's crazy that your BA doesn't count for something, even though not >> in ECE. >> >> Of course I don't understand your situation fully, but I think I'd go >> for the AA in ECE if I were you and wanted to stay in ECE. >> > > Thanks, Shari: The state already looked at my transcripts from my BA > which was in liberal arts, specifically interior design and art history. > My ece credit they would recognize was the one that I paid for the credit > towards a Master's degree when I got my specialized ece training back in > the early 90's. That was the only credit I could "pay" for that would > count as an actual college credit at that time as that was the first year > the program was offered. They said the word 'child" had to be in the > class description and none of mine did. I would have thought the two > electives I took in oral interpretation might have counted. (That is > actually storytelling using literature) > > The continuuing education class was a year long including my internship > that was nine months. The summer session was six weeks 8-5 in the > classroom and there were also labs to do in the evenings. We also had > four 4 day weekends through our internship, plus tests in all areas of > the curriculum and philosophy including classroom management (That I > actually taught in later years there at the university twice) and other > areas of working in this age group. It was a very thorough program in > preparing me for my work. I have attended numerous workshops and actually > presenteda couple at different colleges and universities, but I didn't > need CDA credits so I never turned in the forms. In our state if one has > a preschool that is not church affliliated and is not day care, there is > not a license to get. (it falls under the same category as home schooling > which has been VERY big here for decades). So when we closed our big > facility a couple years ago, downsized the numbers and I completed > licensing requirements to run the school out of my home. However, it has > been one huge pain having to take all these classes just to get the > license. I think it is very ironic that the state was ok that I could run > a school with 40 students but I am not qualified to have 10 children > doing the exact same thing in my home.(The state did visit my school one > summer when a local day care reported us for operating a day care without > a license which we were not doing. They left very impressed with the > facility and program) Makes no sense, but I guess when it comes to > government stuff, it doesn't have to. > > I might check and see if either the cc or local university where I got my > BA has on line courses available in ece. That might cut down the hours I > would need to attend class. Maybe a self study? I don't know. It is just > so time consuming to find out all this stuff when it seems like the > majority of the time is spent playing phone tag. > > I will check back here to see if any other advice shows up. thanks, > again. montmo

Jan 21, 2011

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Elizabeth On 1/16/11, montmo wrote:

>> Do any of you have suggestions of programs I can consider? >> I have no idea which ones are legit. Thanks for any ideas!

Phoenix is not only expensive, but they make you take out loans to cover the cost of your education so that once you're finished you owe money to a lender, and lots of i...See More

Jan 23, 2011

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PRe- K Director Nova Southeastern University has an online program for ECE.

Feb 6, 2011

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