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feeling confused, inconsistent, weak

by piglet

Sep 2, 2010

I have always had pretty strong discipline as a teacher. This year is my first year teaching sped and my discipline has suffered. I am not sure if discipline expectations are different in the resource setting. I redirect students and they comply. It takes them much longer though. Sometimes they talk back as well. I am not used to getting much back talk as a teacher. When students in regular ed. did talk back that would automatically be a warning. I dont know if the expectations should be different with them being sped. Probably not? I feel sometimes the kids cant control their behaviors and sometimes can. I really confused and inconsistent. Please help!

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Prof. Howard Seeman On 9/02/10, piglet wrote: > I have always had pretty strong discipline as a teacher. > This year is my first year teaching sped and my discipline > has suffered. I am not sure if discipline expectations are > different in the resource setting. I redirect students and > they comply. It takes them much longer though. Sometimes > the...See More

Sep 2, 2010

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Sara With spec. ed all bets are off. Yes, it certainly does take them longer - that's one reason why they're in spec. ed and the good news is recognize that it takes them longer. Build on that gained knowledge. They might get faster during the year but it usually always takes them longer.

And they usually always have shorter attention spans and...See MoreWith spec. ed all bets are off. Yes, it certainly does take them longer - that's one reason why they're in spec. ed and the good news is recognize that it takes them longer. Build on that gained knowledge. They might get faster during the year but it usually always takes them longer.

And they usually always have shorter attention spans and it takes them longer to learn things too - like not talking back. They also come wired to be impulsive - their impulses are harder to control - that's another reason why they'r in spec. ed.

They don't learn in the same way - there are often glitches along the pathways by which we learn social skills in spec. ed kids. Some kids - and some adults - always talk back.

Past that we'd have our different takes - I encourage discussion and will reason with kids so the 'talking back' is an opportunity to have them see reason in what I do because there always is reason in what I do. If it goes on too long or they're being just plain stubborn despite the strength of my logic and reason, I then will cut it off and say "Sometimes it's just the way I say it is because it's my job to say how it's got to be. May be we can talk more but not now."

To set the same expectations with spec. ed would make me wonder why we have them in spec. ed? Ideally we'd have the same goals for them - independent learning, positive social skills, good group work, being a part of a team etc. etc. but they're not wired in the same way. You can't get from where they are to where they should be in the same linear path or at the same pace as you can with reg. ed.

I'd suggest doing some reading - anything by Mel Levine is pretty good stuff. He's got a website - he's a pediatrician who devotes his work to spec. ed kids. Check out his website and his books/articles. Good luck. > I have always had pretty strong discipline as a teacher. > This year is my first year teaching sped and my discipline > has suffered. I am not sure if discipline expectations are > different in the resource setting. I redirect students and > they comply. It takes them much longer though. Sometimes > they talk back as well. I am not used to getting much back > talk as a teacher. When students in regular ed. did talk > back that would automatically be a warning. I dont know if > the expectations should be different with them being sped. > Probably not? I feel sometimes the kids cant control their > behaviors and sometimes can. I really confused and > inconsistent. Please help!

Sep 3, 2010

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It takes patience and understanding On 9/03/10, Sara wrote: > > To set the same expectations with spec. ed would make me > wonder why we have them in spec. ed? Ideally we'd have the > same goals for them - independent learning, positive social > skills, good group work, being a part of a team etc. etc. but > they're not wired in the same way. You can't get from wher...See More

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Daniel Hanson Cute username. I agree with the rest. It may take some kids in resource longer to confirm to our behavior expectations, but it's not impossible. Don't make excuses for them in that you excuse their misbehavior. My mom works as a K-5 resource specialist and has a Masters in Special Ed. I worked as an instructional assistant in resource for a semeste...See More

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Jo On 9/03/10, Sara wrote: > With spec. ed all bets are off. Yes, it certainly does take > them longer - that's one reason why they're in spec. ed and > the good news is recognize that it takes them longer. Build > on that gained knowledge. They might get faster during the > year but it usually always takes them longer. >

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