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Long Term Sub Question

by Martin

May 25, 2011

I was offered a long-term sub position, teaching high school Language Arts at a high school in Denver, CO. My question is, does anyone have experience doing this and what happened? I'm very curious to hear what others may have experienced. I haven't made my decision yet, because I"m worried that it might only be for a few weeks--but I'd still be expected to teach as a year-round teacher would and coach the debate team as well for much less than a regular teacher makes. I'm wondering if I should continue to sub and just hold out for the full-time, year-round position I truly want. I'd like to find out if others had similar experiences or could help fill in the blanks.

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marjoryt Here's what I'd consider 1) Am I on the short list to be hired for the next available position for which I'm qualified to teach? 2) If I sign the part time contact and then am offered a full time job somewhere else, am I contractually obligated to stay in the part time position or will I be released? 3) Does the school system clearly understand tha...See More

May 30, 2011

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Martin These are great questions, and I really appreciate your help.

This long term sub position does state in the advertisement that they also want someone to coach the school debate team.

Obviously, my concern is that I'll be expected to perform a full-time, regular teacher's job for much less pay and no benefits or union support--so...See MoreThese are great questions, and I really appreciate your help.

This long term sub position does state in the advertisement that they also want someone to coach the school debate team.

Obviously, my concern is that I'll be expected to perform a full-time, regular teacher's job for much less pay and no benefits or union support--so the school is getting the better deal and it's a toss up as to whether I'm better off or not since I won't be able to sub any longer. And then there's the question of how long is the sub slot for, just a few weeks, a few months, or what? It's also interesting that this same school is hiring for two other full-time, regular staff Language Arts positions as well. I'm tired of school administrations treating teachers like garbage, providing zero support, and then trying to find more ways to eliminate unions and reduce pay.

Although the job market is horrible and does not appear to be improving any time soon, there seem to be more negative aspects to this than positive.

On 5/30/11, marjoryt wrote: > Here's what I'd consider > 1) Am I on the short list to be hired for the next available > position for which I'm qualified to teach? > 2) If I sign the part time contact and then am offered a full > time job somewhere else, am I contractually obligated to stay > in the part time position or will I be released? > 3) Does the school system clearly understand that I want a > full time job and will be searching for one? > 4) Will I be expected to develop a semester calendar and > lesson plans for this period? > 5) Will I be expected to run extracurricular activities adn > take students on trips off campus? Will I be covered on > insurance and compensated for those? > 6) Am I obligated to do the "extra responsibilities" of a > teacher such as lunch room duties or after school tutoring? > > In one long term sub position, I didn't get any pay, but I > did none of the extra responsibilities - simply came in and > taught to the lesson plan. > > In another position, I was able to negociate just a little > better pay and promise of referrals and recommendations > because I stepped completely into the teacher's job. I > wasn't hired as the replacement, but the recommendations led > directly into my first and second full time jobs.

May 30, 2011

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Sam J My first job was as a long-term substitute. (This was 15 years ago and in another state.) I was hired just a couple days before school started, and it was a two-week position with the possibility of longer. I ended up working the entire school year, doing extra-curriculars and duties. I made my own lesson plans.

After 90 days in that posit...See More

May 31, 2011

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