Trump clearly doesn't understand Mexicans

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Trump clearly doesn't understand Mexicans

by Lulu

Jan 26, 2017

They're a very proud people and Trump has offended the Mexican President, the Mexican Senate, and the Mexican people. After hearing Trump's rhetoric many senators put pressure on the President to cancel his meeting with Trump and despite the fact that both countries would be hurt by a breakdown in relations the Mexican populace is cheering Pena Nieto's decision to cancel.

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Chalky On 1/26/17, long-time lurker wrote:
> On 1/26/17, Cha Cha wrote:
>> On 1/26/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote:
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>>> The only major difference is language. Yet, Spanish
>> speaking
>>> people - or any other language for that matter - are
>>> under much greater pressure to speak Engli...See More

Jan 26, 2017

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Cha Cha I do not focus on Trump because he is not the problem.

If something doesn't change in the U.S. another populist will eventually come along and ride the wave into office just as Trump did. I figure Trump will mess up soon enough, and everyone will abandon him, hopefully before he starts a major war.

But consider this:

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Jan 26, 2017

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long-time lurker On 1/26/17, Chalky wrote: > On 1/26/17, long-time lurker wrote: >> On 1/26/17, Cha Cha wrote: >>> On 1/26/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: >>> >>>> The only major difference is language. Yet, Spanish >>> speaking >>>> people - or any other language for that matter - are >>>> under much...See MoreOn 1/26/17, Chalky wrote: > On 1/26/17, long-time lurker wrote: >> On 1/26/17, Cha Cha wrote: >>> On 1/26/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: >>> >>>> The only major difference is language. Yet, Spanish >>> speaking >>>> people - or any other language for that matter - are >>>> under much greater pressure to speak English than we >>>> ever were > to >>>> speak Spanish. >>>> >>>> Seriously, for those who think people from Mexico are >>>> bad, look at the cultural divide between the Germans >>>> and the million immigrants they let into their country >>>> in 2015. The values are so different; it is tearing at >>>> the fabric of >>> their >>>> society. Open borders will do the same to this country. >>>> However, it would take vastly more Mexicans simply > because >>>> they are so similar to us >>> >>> It's obvious that neither of you has ever lived among >>> Mexican immigrants in the U.S. I have. >>> >>> It's not that Americans think Mexicans are "bad". It's >>> that illegal immigration negatively impacts many >>> communities. If YOUR community is wealthy and doesn't >>> get many illegals moving in, then that explains why you >>> are so "tolerant". If many high income, professionally >>> employed Asians are > moving >>> into a community, that is not a problem either...except >>> that they raise real estate costs which can be bad for >>> middle and low income folks. But no one would say that >>> Americans > portray >>> such Asians as "bad". The same thing happens when old >>> neighborhoods become gentrified by middle-class >>> retirees, yuppies, and Californians who want to escape >>> the snow or > Los >>> Angeles, move to the Sunbelt, etc. The poor >>> residents/renters have to move out because they can no >>> longer afford to rent or buy. No one says that they are >>> "bad" except maybe for the Californians and the way they >>> drive - (LOL, I'm just ribbing you Californians, >>> although people really DO complain about California >>> drivers IRL). The impact on schools, healthcare, and >>> prisons, should be obvious. >>> >>> About the wall, illegals will just fly over or dig >>> under, and then a new President will just knock it down >>> so it's a waste of money. As for terrorists, perhaps >>> some Americans wonder > if >>> Islamic terrorists might fly or sail to Mexico and then >>> enter the U.S. that way. So maybe they think a wall >>> would limit the entry of some of them? >>> >>> But can anyone answer factually, not emotionally, what >>> exactly is wrong with the idea of a border wall? Please >>> don't bother to state reasons that are involved with >>> FEELINGS. I'm interested in intellectual discussion and >>> facts. Feelings are not justification for laws. I am >>> interested in an answer that is non-emotional that will >>> explain why we HAVE borders and laws if we don't want to >>> enforce them. I am baffled as to why all other nations >>> have borders and immigration controls but liberals don't >>> want the U.S. to have them. >>> >>> If we don't want a border between our country and >>> others, then why not just annex those countries as an >>> extension of the U.S.? >> >> Attitude, Bad Message Money, time, resources. >> >> I have no issue with a firm but fair immigration policy. >> We have one. Obama followed W's lead in deportation. >> There is no reason why a reasonable president couldn't >> continue under the same policy. Trump is not reasonable. >> It is the stirring up emotions in people toward >> negativity and a rejection of reasonable that I can't >> tolerate in Trump. He is not going to build a wall. It's >> on its was of being nixed today. >> >> A wall is just too ineffective, expensive, and a waste of >> time and resources. Trump's stronghold stance on the >> issue is essentially bullying and baiting. He has always >> known he will not have such a wall. He has always known >> Mexico will not pay for it. His loud mouth does not serve >> diplomacy. We will be in a war in short order if he >> doesn't grow up. >> >> -ltl > > > It's very obvious that his behavior is now as good as it > gets. He has narcissistic personality disorder and without > treatment it won't get better. > > Do these symptoms ring a bell?Having an exaggerated sense > of self-importance > > Expecting to be recognized as superior even without > achievements that warrant it > > Exaggerating your achievements and talents > > Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, > brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate > > Believing that you are superior and can only be understood > by or associate with equally special people > > Requiring constant admiration > > Having a sense of entitlement > > Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with > your expectations > > Taking advantage of others to get what you want > > Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the > needs and feelings of others > > Being envious of others and believing others envy you > > Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner > > > May God bless our nation under the leadership of this > mentally disturbed president.

The world's doomsday clock was adjusted today. :(

-ltl

Jan 26, 2017

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Deb ms/IA This is an interesting conversation but I gotta agree with ChaCha on this issue.

Why?

I just had a great conversation with one of our local businessmen about Trump's stuff with Mexico and the wall. He said Trump can spout BS as much as he wants but the Mexican leadership is very corrupt. America is great and if you come here and...See More

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