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To Bob -- *If* Flynn's convos were recorded

by Chalky

Feb 14, 2017

...is that legal?

The question was raised by a WSJ article entitled "Eavesdropping on Michael Flynn".

The article linked below describes why recording his conversations might have been legal after all.

:::learning tons about covert operations:::

Bob, what do you think?

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Lulu On 2/14/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: > On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote: >> On 2/14/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >>> On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote: >>> >>>> Like they [Russians] didn't know about the US >>>> eavesdropping on >>> them >>>> before? >>>> >>>> Really? >>>&...See MoreOn 2/14/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: > On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote: >> On 2/14/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >>> On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote: >>> >>>> Like they [Russians] didn't know about the US >>>> eavesdropping on >>> them >>>> before? >>>> >>>> Really? >>>> >>>> Naive? >>> >>> >>> Care to elaborate? Be specific? It's naive to think the >>> Russians will ever believe that they can have a secure >>> conversation with our diplomats after this latest liberal >>> fiasco. The anti-Trump numskulls have seriously >> damaged >>> foreign relations. >> >> >> 45 was notified weeks before he pulled the trigger that >> Flynn had been compromised and was vulnerable to >> blackmail and yet POTUS allowed Flynn total access to US >> intel. >> >> This is not protecting national security. >> >> Flynn had ONE job and he screwed that up. >> >> How is this the fault of Democrats? >> > > I seem to remember all of 44s ills being blamed on the > majority. So perhaps that is one reason. And it may be 44s > people who are hacking the current administration. > > Why no hatred for those who are leaking? 44 hated leakers. > 44 and the left blame leakers for not having 42s wife as > president. We need to also investigate the leakers and see if > 44 has any hand in this with his people still in 45s > government.

These are too separate issues. If Trump wants to deal with the leaks, let him, but trying to deflect attention from the Flynn scandal by focussing on the leaks is like getting more upset with the kid who rats on his big brother to the neighbor after the big brother breaks the neighbor's window, then lies to Mom, forcing Mom to tell the neighbor he didn't do it, than you are with the big brother himself.

Daddy: "Little Johnny, how could you be so disloyal to this family? You're grounded!" Little Johnny: "But Dad, I told you a week ago that Big Jimmy did it and you still made us all deny it. The neighbor knew he did it anyway. I was only telling the truth."

Trump's just angry that he's been caught in a lie. I want an apology from Daddy Trump for breaking my window/national security.

Feb 15, 2017

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Tim Finnegan On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:
> On 2/14/17, Tim Finnegan wrote:
>> On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote:
>>> On 2/14/17, EasTexSteve wrote:
>>>> On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Like they [Russians] didn't know about the US
>>>>> eavesdropping on
>>>&g...See More

Feb 15, 2017

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Lulu On 2/15/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: > On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:

>> If Trump wants to deal with the leaks, let him, but >> trying to deflect attention from the Flynn scandal by >> focussing on the leaks is like getting more upset with >> the kid > who rats >> on his big brother to the neighbor after the big br...See MoreOn 2/15/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: > On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:

>> If Trump wants to deal with the leaks, let him, but >> trying to deflect attention from the Flynn scandal by >> focussing on the leaks is like getting more upset with >> the kid > who rats >> on his big brother to the neighbor after the big brother >> breaks > the >> neighbor's window, then lies to Mom, forcing Mom to tell >> the > neighbor >> he didn't do it, than you are with the big brother >> himself. >> >> Daddy: "Little Johnny, how could you be so disloyal to >> this > family? >> You're grounded!" Little Johnny: "But Dad, I told you a >> week ago that Big Jimmy > did it >> and you still made us all deny it. The neighbor knew he >> did it > anyway. >> I was only telling the truth." >> >> Trump's just angry that he's been caught in a lie. I want >> an > apology >> from Daddy Trump for breaking my window/national >> security. > > Big difference in your analogy. Johnny wasn't breaking the > law and divulging classified information. Flynn has been > caught in a lie, and should be punished (this seems to be > a law that democrats want enforced). So should those who > have hacked this presidency and illegally divulged > information.

No, Johnny was ratting on his brother. Because it was an analogy.

While I think Trump needs to deal with WH leaks I haven't seen any hacking going on. I have seen evidence that people in the security community are divulging information that should be secure. Whether you want to frame that as sabotage, whistle blowing, or something in between is a matter of opinion.

The Roguepotusstaff Twitter account (I'll try to link it here but you may have to search if that doesn't work) is a good example of the kinds of leaks that are driving POTUS crazy. They're very careful not to divulge anything related to national security but they have been giving daily, damaging insight into the WH with tweets like:

"POTUS is annoyed with Kellyanne. Says she keeps "messing up." Upset that her spin clashes with the now official spin created by Pence." and

"Latest office betting pool speculates on how long before POTUS has withdrawal seizures due to being put on twitter timeout." and

"POTUS knew Flynn was lying, but assured VP he was telling truth."

Do you also want Trump punished for lying? In response to the question, "What do you think about reports that General Flynn had conversations with the Russians about sanctions before..." He answered, "I don't know about that. I haven't seen it. What report was that?...I'll look into that."

No one believes Spicer's spin about Trump answering the question about whether he'd specifically seen the WSJ REPORT, not whether he had heard the allegations.

Feb 15, 2017

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Lulu On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:

> The Roguepotusstaff Twitter account (I'll try to link it here but you > may have to search if that doesn't work) is a good example of the > kinds of leaks that are driving POTUS crazy. They're very careful > not to divulge anything related to national security but they have > been giving daily, dama...See More

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