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I agree with POTUS...

by Chalky

May 4, 2017

"I shouldn't say this to my great friend from Australia because you have better healthcare than we do."

Indeed they do.

Australia has universal healthcare.

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Chalky On 5/04/17, Chalky wrote: > "I shouldn't say this to my great friend from Australia because you have better healthcare than we do." > > Indeed they do. > > Australia has universal healthcare. >

Bernie agrees with POTUS too!

May 4, 2017

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EasTexSteve On 5/04/17, Chalky wrote: > "I shouldn't say this to my great friend from Australia because you have better healthcare than we do." > > Indeed they do. > > Australia has universal healthcare. >

No, they don't. It is similar to ours in that the public system co-exists with the private one. Their system is actual...See More

May 5, 2017

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EasTexSteve On 5/05/17, Bob R/CA wrote: > On 5/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> On 5/04/17, Chalky wrote: >>> "I shouldn't say this to my great friend from Australia >> because you have better healthcare than we do." >>> >>> Indeed they do. >>> >>> Australia has universal healthcare. >>>...See MoreOn 5/05/17, Bob R/CA wrote: > On 5/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> On 5/04/17, Chalky wrote: >>> "I shouldn't say this to my great friend from Australia >> because you have better healthcare than we do." >>> >>> Indeed they do. >>> >>> Australia has universal healthcare. >>> >> >> No, they don't. > > Yes. They do. Alt-facts strikes again. > > Universal coverage has a precise meaning. It means that > EVERYONE has insurance. It doesn't mean there are zero > out-of-pocket expenses. In Australia, EVERYONE has > government-provided insurance, and there is no cost for the > coverage. > > Individuals can purchase private insurance, which is > primary (used before the government coverage) and the > government provides an incentive to purchase this by > levying a 1&37; tax on the top earners, who don't buy their > own coverage. > > Trump was right, it is a better plan than ours. > > You were wrong. It is undeniably "universal healthcare."

Wrong. Sure, it's "universal coverage" but it's not "universal price." The Australian Medicare system provides free or subsidized medical treatment for all permanent residents. Also, each state has its own private health insurers, the largest of which include the Hospital Contribution Fund (HCF), Medibank Private, the Medical Benefit Funds (MBF) and National Mutual Health Insurance. The benefits (rebates) provided by health insurers aren’t usually 100 per cent and you normally need to make a contribution (an excess or co-payment) towards fees, called ‘out-of-pocket’ costs. These can be very high and can run into $hundreds or even $thousands (and can increase at short notice). If you want your own doctor to treat you in a public hospital, you must pay a daily accommodation charge, and some insurers levy a fee per night (e.g. $80) for private hospital patients. In addition to out-of-pocket costs, there’s also usually an annual excess charge, which can be up to $2,000 for a family and may be applied per person for a couple. When you leave hospital, you’re generally asked to pay the difference (if any) between your health insurer’s refund and the hospital’s fees.

And, like govt insurance here, you get what you pay for. If you like living dangerously, by all means, relay totally upon the govt system for all your healthcare.

May 5, 2017

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EasTexSteve On 5/05/17, Bob R/CA wrote:
> On 5/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote:

>> Wrong. Sure, it's "universal coverage"
>
> Send in the clowns. Don't bother...

Another assumption you are making is that "universal
coverage" is the same thing as "universal care." It isn't.

May 5, 2017

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