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Jan 19, 2018

Will the Democrats shut down the government? Now, you may claim that the Republicans "control" both houses of congress. If that were really true, the 50 votes in the Senate would be enough to pass the anti-shutdown bill.

Appearing on the ABC News program "This Week," Schumer said, "basically, it's sort of like this: someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage and then says, let's negotiate over the price of your house. You know, we could do the same thing on immigration. We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say, 'We're shutting down the government, we're not gonna raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.' It would be governmental chaos."

Apparently it's okay to say we're shutting down the government until you pass immigration reform when you're the party on the outs. Which is it, Chucky?

I think that this person was spot on with his take... "The basic line is: No matter how strongly one feels about an i...See MoreWill the Democrats shut down the government? Now, you may claim that the Republicans "control" both houses of congress. If that were really true, the 50 votes in the Senate would be enough to pass the anti-shutdown bill.

Appearing on the ABC News program "This Week," Schumer said, "basically, it's sort of like this: someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage and then says, let's negotiate over the price of your house. You know, we could do the same thing on immigration. We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say, 'We're shutting down the government, we're not gonna raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.' It would be governmental chaos."

Apparently it's okay to say we're shutting down the government until you pass immigration reform when you're the party on the outs. Which is it, Chucky?

I think that this person was spot on with his take... "The basic line is: No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn't hold millions of people hostage. That's what the other side is doing. That's wrong and we can't give in to that." Of course, that was the one, the only, Chuck Schumer. Who is doing just that.

For some reason, the Democrats are choosing to be legislative arsonists (That's a Pelosi-ism). "I join the American people in their disgust in what happened in terms of the shutdown of government. That's an unthinkable tactic to use in a political debate." ... that's Pelosi, who is in the party that is in favor of this governmental shutdown.

Cue Bernie... "Ultimately, what we are dealing with tonight is an extraordinary anti-democratic act. Every member of the Senate has strong feelings, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, but when you are in the minority—they do not control the White House, they do not control the United States Senate—they cannot force the American people to give them what they want." CNN Poll ...Which is more important? Avoid a shutdown or continue DACA? 56/34 is avoid the shutdown.

So, I am amazed that Schumer and Sanders voted for the shutdown.

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Tim Finnegan The only reason it needs 61 votes is because the legislative arsonists on the left, led by Schumer, are filibustering... they could have easily voted for cloture on the CR and allowed a simple up or down vote.

Again, I wish someone would explain to me which part of the bill Democrats are against. Instead, because of this shutdown, people a...See More

Jan 20, 2018

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Lulu The only reason we're in this situation is that Trump tanked the bipartisan agreement the Republican and Democratic leadership had worked out after saying he would. What happened to, "I think my positions are going to be what the people in this room come up with. If they come to me with things that I'm not in love with, I'm going to do it, because ...See More

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Chalky https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/negotiating-with-jell-o-how-trumps-shifting-positions-fueled-the-rush-to-a-shutdown/2018/01/20/81215b90-fd71-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html?utm_term=.e803b45f837a

‘Negotiating with Jell-O’: How Trump’s shifting positions fueled the rush to a shutdown

Many complain the self-proclaimed dealmaker has shown himself to be an unreliable negotiator who struggles to close critical agreements.

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Jan 20, 2018

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Tim Finnegan So, again, people cannot tell me what the Democrats are against that is in this funding bill. I can only gather that it is for political posturing and photo ops. Lulu, I may ask you what happened to...

"As we said a thousand times, we are happy to discuss how to fund the government but not with a gun to our head. Open up all of the governm...See MoreSo, again, people cannot tell me what the Democrats are against that is in this funding bill. I can only gather that it is for political posturing and photo ops. Lulu, I may ask you what happened to...

"As we said a thousand times, we are happy to discuss how to fund the government but not with a gun to our head. Open up all of the government, and then we can have a fruitful discussion." -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY)

"That is how a budget works, how appropriations works, and how our government is run. But to take an extraneous issue and to say unless we get rid of it, they are going to shut down the government, no way." -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) (Although this would be to take an extraneous issue and say unless we add it...)

"Because to only talk while the government is shut down does huge damage to millions of innocent people and to our country's economy. They forgot to say: Let's vote. Then let's talk. Their motto should be modified." -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), And now, he won't even allow a straight up or down vote and insists on filibustering the CR.

"It makes much more sense to have the government open and then have the debate in the proper place--a conference committee that decides future funding, in an omnibus appropriations bill--what level of funding, if any, each part of the government should get." -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY)

"But first open the government and pay our bills. Then we can sit down and debate our differences. The future of our financial system, the future of millions of Americans, is at stake. We don't play around with that. We don't hold that hostage." -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY)... except he will hold Americans hostage over immigrants who entered this country, through no fault of their own, illegally.

"I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going to shut the government down, I'm going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis." Chuck Schumer (D-NY) ... seems he's all for a politics of idiocy, confrontation, paralysis now that a Republican is president.

"One faction of one party in one House of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election." Barack Obama

"Right now, House Republicans continue to tie funding of the government to ideological demands like limiting a woman's access to contraception or delaying the Affordable Care Act, all to save face after making some impossible promises to the extreme right wing of their party," - Barack Obama, although he would now substitute Senate Democrats, DACA, and left.

"You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it. But don't break it," - Barack Obama

What happened to all of those strong feelings about keeping the government open? About keeping the full faith and credit of the US Government above question, and to negotiate after that is done? Now, it seems OK to filibuster, and to shut the government down. It seems OK for Democrats to continue to be legislative arsonists and hold a gun to the head of the American people over illegal immigration.

Jan 21, 2018

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