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LTS over

by Kathy

May 7, 2016

After 14 weeks, my long term sub job is over. I made the decision after feeling like I was being yanked around. Everyone around me, including the supervisor were under the understanding that the teacher was not returning. I was working from doctor appointment to doctor appointment. I didn't have enough days to finish out the year so decided to put ...See More

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pixie It sounds like this lasted more than a quarter of the school year. Enjoy a much-deserved rest.

stOn 5/07/16, Kathy wrote: > After 14 weeks, my long term sub job is over. I made the > decision after feeling like I was being yanked around. > Everyone around me, including the supervisor were under > the understanding that the teac...See More

May 8, 2016

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Betty Ann The kids deserve a good teacher--like you. And you deserve respect, appreciation, not being taken for granted.

I had no idea you were facing surgery. Here's hoping it goes well and the results are just what you are hoping for.

On 5/08/16, pixie wrote: > It sounds like this lasted more than a quarter of the > school year. Enj...See More

May 11, 2016

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Tomorrow might be my last day

by Kathy

May 3, 2016

This is my 13th or 14th week in this LTS job in an autism classroom. I am having a blast, but am ready to go back to retirement. I decided that May 6th will be my last day if the teacher is not released to return to work. She sees the doctor tomorrow, so may be released to return to work on Thursday. There is an all day field trip on Thursday. Four...See More

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BJ Friday is my last day. I found another temp job. I won't be making as much as subbing - only 11 an hour - but at least it is a guaranteed income for the summer months. I will continue pet sitting and plan to do some more reporting. Today started off terrible. The teacher left no plans, and the students wanted to talk rather than read the essay. I t...See More

May 3, 2016

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Kathy with more... The teacher still has restrictions so will not be returning tomorrow. HR needs to figure out if she can work with restrictions. I think HR needs to visit the classroom. All they will see is 9 students and 4 adults and think it will work. It won't. Oh well. My last day will be Friday. I could go one more week, but I am tired. My house remodeling wil...See MoreThe teacher still has restrictions so will not be returning tomorrow. HR needs to figure out if she can work with restrictions. I think HR needs to visit the classroom. All they will see is 9 students and 4 adults and think it will work. It won't. Oh well. My last day will be Friday. I could go one more week, but I am tired. My house remodeling will be at a spot where I can put most of the house back together and get my new sectional delivered. I need to be able to do those things during the day, not after work. I am putting myself on the unavailable list all next week so I can get things done. I do have 2 sub jobs lined up for the week after next. The following week is the last week of school. I don't anticipate getting many calls that week, either. Kathy

On 5/03/16, BJ wrote: > Friday is my last day. I found another temp job. I won't be > making as much as subbing - only 11 an hour - but at least it > is a guaranteed income for the summer months. I will continue > pet sitting and plan to do some more reporting. > Today started off terrible. The teacher left no plans, and the > students wanted to talk rather than read the essay. I > threatened to write down names. Then they got quiet -so quiet! > I'm getting better at management, but substitutes never catch > a break. Even honors classes want to test you. > > On 5/03/16, Kathy wrote: >> This is my 13th or 14th week in this LTS job in an autism >> classroom. I am having a blast, but am ready to go back >> to retirement. I decided that May 6th will be my last day >> if the teacher is not released to return to work. She >> sees the doctor tomorrow, so may be released to return to >> work on Thursday. There is an all day field trip on >> Thursday. Four of the students are going on the field >> trip with me (teacher) and a para. If she returns I will >> sub for the remaining students. We'll see what happen. If >> she does not return, Friday will be my last day. I am >> getting small gifts for the paraprofessionals as thank- >> you gifts for helping me learn the routines and putting >> up with my antics as a teacher. >> Kathy

May 4, 2016

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The teacher lets us

by Lola

Apr 26, 2016

What do you do when students say the teacher lets them do something? Today I had high school, I ask why are you playing games and like 8 of them said the teacher lets them play video games on the computer if they get their reading done. So I let them - But I was uncomfortable because there was more than 20 minutes left of class. I don't like the ga...See More

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Octo_888 On 4/26/16, Lola wrote: > What do you do when students say the teacher lets them do > something? > Today I had high school, I ask why are you playing games > and like 8 of them said the teacher lets them play video > games on the computer if they get their reading done. > So I let them - But I was uncomfortable because there was &...See More

Apr 27, 2016

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mrsd Unless the teacher has specified in the plans that students can play approved games, I tell them that they can read a book or work on other schoolwork. It's problematical, because my middle school is one-to-one Chromebook. Each student has a Chromebook. Usually the teacher says they can go to their Google Classroom and either do Typing Club or work...See More

Apr 27, 2016

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Relative salaries

by LSMFT

Apr 4, 2016

Hi Im new to the site.

I'm curious.

I sub in Ca And make $150 per day.

What is common in other states?

Remember, this is not long term.

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Lee NJ- $70 - $90 depending on the district in my area. Many make you take off the 20th day to avoid long term pay if it won't go much longer than that. I've made $252 per day for a maternity leave replacement, no benefits.

Apr 7, 2016

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mrwiseman $115 per day Eastern Iowa town

Apr 25, 2016

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Summer school

by Suzanne R

Apr 21, 2016

Is is worthwhile to make yourself available to sub in the summer months?

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Ze Povinho On 4/21/16, Joel wrote: > On 4/21/16, Suzanne R wrote: >> Is is worthwhile to make yourself available to sub in the >> summer months? > It depends on your situation. Will you be available all summer > if called? Do you need the extra money? The pay is usually > pretty good in many areas. Are you looking for a permanent > ...See More

Apr 22, 2016

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pixie Where I am subs don't have the option to work in summer school either, though well-meaning friends always suggest it. I am conducting my annual search for summer employment; have inquired about the summer program that I worked at last summer but have not heard. When we apply for seasonal employment we are competing with college students.

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Apr 24, 2016

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CSET

by Lynne R

Apr 20, 2016

How hard is the CSET compared to the CBST?

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Ze Povinho On 4/20/16, Lynne R wrote: > How hard is the CSET compared to the CBST?

The CBEST covers reading, writing and 8th grade math.

The CSET is harder because it tests you on the subjects you will teach. It comes in 2 varieties: single subject and multiple subjects (for the elementary teachers). The multiple subjects test tests you ...See More

Apr 22, 2016

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Clarification

by Sam Foley

Apr 22, 2016

To Nah and Emma K

Please read my first message of the thread entitled Sick Puppy Regular Teacher

This teacher is not the hypothetical teacher I referenced in a previous post.

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Emma K Sam, could you PLEASE try to keep all your posts within a thread? You seem to start a NEW THREAD every time you post. It's very confusing.

If this is not the teacher from one of your earlier threads, all I can say is you really seem to struggle getting along with people. I've been subbing for about 18 years and never once have I had the t...See More

Apr 22, 2016

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Sick puppy update

by Sam Foley

Apr 22, 2016

This morning the vice principal came into my class and asked me to reveal my source but I told her I had to protect the student.

As it turned out there is a full blown investigation going on and every student in the perpetrator's class is being called in to talk to the principal.

I was told this by my source.

Hopefully th...See More

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nah On 4/22/16, Sam Foley wrote: > This morning the vice principal came into my class and > asked me to reveal my source but I told her I had to > protect the student. > > As it turned out there is a full blown investigation going on > and every student in the perpetrator's class is being > called in to talk to the principal. > ...See More

Apr 22, 2016

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Emma K "source", "full blown investigation", "perpetrator", "monster"....wow, drama much?

Is this the same teacher you'd been wanting to "get" a few weeks ago and posted about? I thought people told you then (wisely) just to continue not subbing for her and to avoid her. Instead, you decided to &q...See More"source", "full blown investigation", "perpetrator", "monster"....wow, drama much?

Is this the same teacher you'd been wanting to "get" a few weeks ago and posted about? I thought people told you then (wisely) just to continue not subbing for her and to avoid her. Instead, you decided to "let her have it with both barrels" (I'm guessing that the teacher you're talking about in THIS thread is the same one you were talking about in the other thread you started today on this subject; it might help a LOT if you would keep your posts on the same topic within the same thread rather than starting new threads all the time). Anyway, I don't know why you felt it was your job to "let her have it with both barrels" but if both you and she are at this petty level, I pity the kids in the middle of this. How you deal with someone like this???? Well, it will probably fall on deaf ears but (again) what you do is give her a wide berth and don't confront here (all the very opposite of what you actually did do).

On 4/22/16, nah wrote: > On 4/22/16, Sam Foley wrote: >> This morning the vice principal came into my class and >> asked me to reveal my source but I told her I had to >> protect the student. >> >> As it turned out there is a full blown investigation going > on >> and every student in the perpetrator's class is being >> called in to talk to the principal. >> >> I was told this by my source. >> >> Hopefully this monster will be put away where she can't >> hurt kids any more. > > Neither students or teachers are protected by any > confidentiality clause. If a student reported wrongdoing, > you don't have the right to withhold that information. I > don't see the rest of this thread, so I don't know exactly > what you're talking about. That said: if someone can be "put > away," this may go beyond the Principal. Be advised, you > can't decline to answer police questions without > consequences. As it is now, being a sub, you might not get > any calls from that school/district after this is over.

Apr 22, 2016

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Lockdowns

by BJ

Apr 21, 2016

We had a practice lockdown today. This school does not give substitutes keys to the classes, and the lockdown started right at the beginning of my coverage - really bad timing. We were supposed to do a headcount. I had no idea who was supposed to be in the class, or how many students there were. Then the students - snotty 12th graders - wouldn't be...See More

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Sarah W On 4/21/16, BJ wrote: > We had a practice lockdown today. This school does not give > substitutes keys to the classes, and the lockdown started > right at the beginning of my coverage - really bad timing. > We were supposed to do a headcount. I had no idea who was > supposed to be in the class, or how many students there > were. &...See More

Apr 21, 2016

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Who's to blame?

by Linda

Apr 13, 2016

I normally work in one district, andI've never had a problem before at this school. But I had 7th graders yesterday, and they were horrendous. All the classes. Constantly talking, would not behave during study hall. Entering the classroom noisy. I had to sent one boy to the office because he pulled another student's hair and made her upset. Another...See More

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Ze Povinho I have had cases like this in the totalitarian regime that passed for a district many times. Examples:

1. The regular teacher could not impose any kind of order and I was sent to help her. It did not work. About 95 percent of the pupils acted as if we did not exist. Middle school language arts.

2. I was sent to help a middle schoo...See More

Apr 13, 2016

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pixie agreeing with Ze Ze is correct; It depends on the students. Some will take advantage of the fact that they have a sub and use that as an excuse for bad behavior, but the fact that there are plenty of well-behaved kids who maintain their self-control, sub or no sub, shows that it is the kids, and not the sub, who are the determining factor.

4/13/16, Ze Pov...See MoreZe is correct; It depends on the students. Some will take advantage of the fact that they have a sub and use that as an excuse for bad behavior, but the fact that there are plenty of well-behaved kids who maintain their self-control, sub or no sub, shows that it is the kids, and not the sub, who are the determining factor.

4/13/16, Ze Povinho wrote: > I have had cases like this in the totalitarian regime that > passed for a district many times. Examples: > > 1. The regular teacher could not impose any kind of order > and I was sent to help her. It did not work. About 95 > percent of the pupils acted as if we did not exist. Middle > school language arts. > > 2. I was sent to help a middle school math teacher whose > pupils did not pay attention to her. Same result. > > 3. I covered numerous classes in which the regular teacher > was the subject of abuse, and where the administration > sided with the students. > > 4. In all cases, the assistant director of certificated > personnel would have stated that I would be the one at > fault for poor classroom management, and that I was > supposed to expect students to challenge me. I was also > to understand that they came from disadvantaged > backgrounds and that times had changed-implying that it > was the norm to tolerate aberrant behaviors from the > pupils. > > Give a fool the power of life and death, or in this case the > power to hire or ruin a livelihood, and you see what > happens. > > Anyway, there are situations where there is nothing we can > do to bring order to an already corrupted and dystopian > environment no matter what STEEDO or any other sub > miracle training fairy tale program tells you. > > Look at the room. Is it messy when you come in? > Look at the way the school is run. Who is in command? > The students or the teachers? > > Do you have backup? Can you send students to the office > without fear of retaliation? Do you always have to watch > your back? > > How is the neighborhood like? Is there parental support or > the kids are the masters? > > Do the teachers, admins, and district make excuses for > misbehavior ("They're poor/disadvantaged/insert the > relevant crutch of the day)? > > If so, you are not at fault. > > I don't fix decades of attitudes of entitlement, poor > parenting, corrupted environments, and the devaluing of > education in six hours. >

Apr 14, 2016

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