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Ken OConnor--no zeros?

by Smithers

Sep 29, 2011

Does anyone work with Ken OConnor's grading policies? Like, no zeros for lates, no zeros for academic fraud (just a redo)? I'm interested in hearing feedback on these grading practices. Is it working? Or is it driving you crazy? Are students really benefiting?

Sara On 9/29/11, Smithers wrote: > Does anyone work with Ken OConnor's grading policies? Like, > no zeros for lates, no zeros for academic fraud (just a > redo)? I'm interested in hearing feedback on these grading > practices. Is it working? Or is it driving you crazy? Are > students really benefiting?

I've used those grading pol...See More

Oct 13, 2011

MB I, too, am just discovering Ken O'Connor and was wondering the same thing. (BTW, I think "Smithers" was asking about work turned in late, rather than arriving to class late - that's how I read it anyway) My thoughts/questions: If a student does not turn in something, still give them a 50%? i.e. big project that has 3 parts: rough draft, final draft...See MoreI, too, am just discovering Ken O'Connor and was wondering the same thing. (BTW, I think "Smithers" was asking about work turned in late, rather than arriving to class late - that's how I read it anyway) My thoughts/questions: If a student does not turn in something, still give them a 50%? i.e. big project that has 3 parts: rough draft, final draft, presentation (foreign language) If student does not turn in rough draft, then where is their incentive - or anyone's - to do so if they are going to get a 50? If I don't have it to grade, how can I give it ANY credit? That's what I do not understand. I am thinking about ordering in his book, How to Grade for Learning. because I am having a heck of a time figuring out how to do just that (students wanted me to give them grades for doing practice work in class; they want "extra credit" - I do not see how that reflects what they KNOW; I didn't give it to them- I assess for how they can communicate/understand in the language and grade for that) So, any feedback on this book? thanks!

On 10/13/11, Sara wrote: > On 9/29/11, Smithers wrote: >> Does anyone work with Ken OConnor's grading policies? Like, >> no zeros for lates, no zeros for academic fraud (just a >> redo)? I'm interested in hearing feedback on these grading >> practices. Is it working? Or is it driving you crazy? Are >> students really benefiting? > > > I've used those grading policies but I came to them on my own - > I don't know Ken O'Connor. > > Here lateness is handled by our office and we don't give a > grade for it. If kids are late to my class, they also tell me > why when they come in - I don't use it as a grade. Lateness to > class is not an issue - when it happens it can mean a student > badly needed to use the bathroom between classes or their books > dropped out of the locker all over the floor - whatever. > > On academic fraud and plagiarism - here we give quite difficult > topics to students and we tell them 'write in your own words'. > As one student told me - "telling me to write in my own words > means to take very good writing and put it into bad writing." > > He's right about that. It's not our strong writers that don't > cite properly but rather tends to be our weak writers and > giving them a zero doesn't make them strong writers. Some > students need more help than others and we very much discourage > parents from helping here. > > I find students take renewed interest in the task at hand when > I assign a rewrite rather than a zero and they take some faith > in humanity as well. Neither of those drives me crazy. My goal > is to foster learning of the skills and a rewrite gets them > writing and a zero doesn't.

Jun 26, 2012

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