It is real now. Even in Oregon in districts like where I work, they can't get enough people for the jobs. They have a serious sub shortage, which was never the case until about two or three years ago. It used to be you had to substitute teach for four years, previous teaching experience or no, before you could get a public ed job. Now districts are hiring teachers with absolutely no experience other than student teaching.
Hey littleton superintendent, can we get a little more than a 1 percent raise now that you got all that money? Bet you are going to spend a lot on coaches to let us no how much we need to improve our teaching. A mass exodus or slowdown is secretly on the way.
As I recall, the school would not increase the pay with the extra days the teachers had to work. This resulted in all the good teachers leaving for more lucrative positons elsewhere. Why would they offer more? Some of the teachers actually worked more days for less pay! Those teachers actually empowered Littleton. Go figure
On 6/10/16, LITTLETON GIVES PENNIES TO TEACHERS wrote: > Hey littleton superintendent, can we get a little more > than a 1 percent raise now that you got all that money? > Bet you are going to spend a lot on coaches to let us no > how much we need to improve our teaching. > A mass exodus or slowdown is secretly on the way.
On 6/15/16, Don wrote: > > Remember this is the same school that lengthened the school > year as a last ditch effort to get that A or B school label. > > As I recall, the school would not increase the pay with the > extra days the teachers had to work. This resulted in all the > good teachers leaving for more lucrative positons elsewhere. > Why would they offer more? Some of the teachers actually > worked more days for less pay! Those teachers actually > empowered Littleton. Go figure > > > > > On 6/10/16, LITTLETON GIVES PENNIES TO TEACHERS wrote: >> Hey littleton superintendent, can we get a little more >> than a 1 percent raise now that you got all that money? >> Bet you are going to spend a lot on coaches to let us no >> how much we need to improve our teaching. >> A mass exodus or slowdown is secretly on the way.
LB, you speak very positively of this district:) Comparing them to other public districts in the area, what are some of the things that make it better? Is it the district that is overall better, or just a certain school site? I'm curious - what evaluation system do they use for teachers? Because....I am looking! Thanks
With this severe shortage, I suggest you pass on the long and impersonal electronic applications.
You are putting valuable information out there so that is critical. Make it easy on yourself and skip those schools that require lengthy and time consuming applications.
On 6/06/16, Clide wrote: > With this severe shortage, I suggest you pass on the long > and impersonal electronic applications. > > You are putting valuable information out there so that is > critical. > > Make it easy on yourself and skip those schools that > require lengthy and time consuming applications.
Check o...See MoreOn 6/06/16, Clide wrote: > With this severe shortage, I suggest you pass on the long > and impersonal electronic applications. > > You are putting valuable information out there so that is > critical. > > Make it easy on yourself and skip those schools that > require lengthy and time consuming applications.
Check out Osborn district in central Phoenix. Not a lot of info required for an interview!!!
It's so bad because many older teaches are retiring, some going to other states where pay is higher, and others giving up because of the low pay. How is Arizona going to run it's schools with no real teachers teaching?
anonOn 6/02/16, To Jasped wrote: > > I'm so tired of the story of how teachers didn't go into > the profession for money. My family has so many issues > where money certainly would help, and we deserve to be > paid at least more than the garbage man. We would love to > take and talk about all the fabulous vacat...See MoreOn 6/02/16, To Jasped wrote: > > I'm so tired of the story of how teachers didn't go into > the profession for money. My family has so many issues > where money certainly would help, and we deserve to be > paid at least more than the garbage man. We would love to > take and talk about all the fabulous vacations > that all our friends take. We are lucky to afford a park > lunch with peanut butter sandwiches on what we make. > > > > > On 5/31/16, jasped wrote: >> On 5/27/16, vannmom wrote: >>> I appreciate that we have the opportunity to connect >>> with fellow teachers, but unfortunately the majority of >>> what I see >>> on here on negative comments. >>> >>> Arizona schools are in crisis, which affects thousands >>> and thousands of our students. We cannot make changes >>> when we are >>> part of the problem and not part of the solution. Complaining >>> but not being willing to be part of the change is not helpful. >>> >>> My husband and myself have been teaching in AZ for 6 >>> years. Yes it's been a challenge, but we own a home, >>> have two cars and are able to support our children. >>> >>> No school is perfect, but we didn't get into teaching >>> for the >>> money and the accolades. Our focus should be on helping >>> the students be successful and we can do that by being >>> a positive >>> opportunity for change. Be that person who encourages >>> and looks for solutions. >> That is fine for you. I worked in AZ for 10 years though before > I pulled out. >> Saw massive corruption, working conditions that got >> worse not > better, >> reports to CPS that were tossed into trash by Arpaio's >> gang and > a loss of >> morale by teachers who were wonderful but chased away by crazy > admin, >> Career Ladder promises that fell flat, reading teachers > dismissed, and >> testing the norm. Threats by admin when heels were dug >> in and > refusal to >> break laws or change scores were part of the parcel. No raises > for 6 years >> and lots of praise for those that worked 7 days a week although > it was >> mostly a gab fest on weekends. ESL students placed in >> special > ed because of >> testing biases. Went to Massachusetts and found 2nd >> graders > were reading >> material thst could not be read by 4th graders in AZ. >> These > were poor, >> disadvantaged kids but they learned and teachers did not >> put in > 60 hour >> weeks. Paid a decent wage and able to put food on table. >> A > union that has a >> voice is also possible in the real world where burnt out > teachers actually >> have kids that learn.
I totally agree with you. This is basically a sexist statement because the overwhelming majority of teachers are women. We should just sit back and take the lousy pay and benefits as compared to male dominated jobs by paying the "child" or "calling" card that we are "not doing it for the money." What a person is really saying is we are going to underpay you and if you don't like it, there's the door.
anonOn 6/04/16, anon wrote: > On 6/02/16, To Jasped wrote: >> >> I'm so tired of the story of how teachers didn't go into >> the profession for money. My family has so many issues >> where money certainly would help, and we deserve to be >> paid at least more than the garbage man. We would love to >> take and talk...See MoreOn 6/04/16, anon wrote: > On 6/02/16, To Jasped wrote: >> >> I'm so tired of the story of how teachers didn't go into >> the profession for money. My family has so many issues >> where money certainly would help, and we deserve to be >> paid at least more than the garbage man. We would love to >> take and talk about all the fabulous > vacations >> that all our friends take. We are lucky to afford a park >> lunch with peanut butter sandwiches on what we make. >> >> >> >> >> On 5/31/16, jasped wrote: >>> On 5/27/16, vannmom wrote: >>>> I appreciate that we have the opportunity to connect >>>> with fellow teachers, but unfortunately the majority of >>>> what I > see >>>> on here on negative comments. >>>> >>>> Arizona schools are in crisis, which affects thousands >>>> and thousands of our students. We cannot make changes >>>> when we > are >>>> part of the problem and not part of the solution. > Complaining >>>> but not being willing to be part of the change is not > helpful. >>>> >>>> My husband and myself have been teaching in AZ for 6 >>>> years. Yes it's been a challenge, but we own a home, >>>> have two cars and are able to support our children. >>>> >>>> No school is perfect, but we didn't get into teaching >>>> for > the >>>> money and the accolades. Our focus should be on helping >>>> the students be successful and we can do that by being >>>> a > positive >>>> opportunity for change. Be that person who encourages >>>> and looks for solutions. >>> That is fine for you. I worked in AZ for 10 years though > before >> I pulled out. >>> Saw massive corruption, working conditions that got >>> worse not >> better, >>> reports to CPS that were tossed into trash by Arpaio's >>> gang > and >> a loss of >>> morale by teachers who were wonderful but chased away by > crazy >> admin, >>> Career Ladder promises that fell flat, reading teachers >> dismissed, and >>> testing the norm. Threats by admin when heels were dug >>> in and >> refusal to >>> break laws or change scores were part of the parcel. No > raises >> for 6 years >>> and lots of praise for those that worked 7 days a week > although >> it was >>> mostly a gab fest on weekends. ESL students placed in >>> special >> ed because of >>> testing biases. Went to Massachusetts and found 2nd >>> graders >> were reading >>> material thst could not be read by 4th graders in AZ. >>> These >> were poor, >>> disadvantaged kids but they learned and teachers did not >>> put > in >> 60 hour >>> weeks. Paid a decent wage and able to put food on table. >>> A >> union that has a >>> voice is also possible in the real world where burnt out >> teachers actually >>> have kids that learn. > > > I totally agree with you. This is basically a sexist > statement because the overwhelming majority of teachers > are women. We should just sit back and take the lousy pay > and benefits as compared to male dominated jobs by paying > the "child" or "calling" card that we are "not doing it > for the money." What a person is really saying is we are > going to underpay you and if you don't like it, there's > the door.
It is real now. Even in Oregon in districts like where I work, they can't get enough people for the jobs. They have a serious sub shortage, which was never the case un...See More