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Interviewee from out of state

by Lori G.

Jun 23, 2010

Hey there, You guys will think I'm nuts for considering leaving my teaching job in Hawaii, but I have a phone interview on Monday for a high school art position in cottonwood, AZ. My question for AZ teachers is: how safe are art positions in your state (how long til tenure?), how likely is it that I will earn 40,000+ (5 years experience and a masters, plus highly qualified), and what is school culture like in that area? Any help before Monday is so appreciated! Thanks, LWG.

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jm Arizona is good place to come to if you want to start at the bottom of the barrel, spend countless dollars out of your own pocket because there is no money for supplies and be treated as if you are scum taking money from the taxpayers because you are a teacher. When you are finally drained of your last dollar and have lost your self respect then yo...See MoreArizona is good place to come to if you want to start at the bottom of the barrel, spend countless dollars out of your own pocket because there is no money for supplies and be treated as if you are scum taking money from the taxpayers because you are a teacher. When you are finally drained of your last dollar and have lost your self respect then you will move on to another state where education is valued and teachers are recognized for the hard work they do. You will have experience and be wise because you been through H***. Living in the trenches does have it's rewards. On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: > I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with > your lack of a job. Just > some food for thought. > > On 6/28/10, azedsucks wrote: >> Face facts - we are a broke state about to face a >> multi billion dollar deficit starting next budget and >> our politicians do not care about education - we are >> in the bottom third in every category educationally >> related - why would anyone come to a place that is >> dead as far as any type of culture or things to do. >> Why would any business relocate or expand to a state >> that only wants to develop call center workers and >> retail employees. Our universitiees are a tuition >> rip-off. We are branded as haters even though I >> believe as many that SB1070 is not racist but talk to >> people across the USA and see what they are hearing >> about our state- we just passed prop 100 tax increase >> to "save" education (HA!) and there are >> still practically no new hires. Furthermore teachers >> in AZ are treated like babysitters who get all the >> blame when those brats misbehave Be smart and avoid >> this place- it is where people come to die - ask the >> folks in all our retirement communities who are also >> so anti education. >> >> And to all those who reply to this post with the get >> out if you don't like it crap - I wish I could but >> like thousands of others - unemployed teacher You >> know the above is Arizona reality and the numbers and >> area prove it. Now back to your local camper started >> wildfire. On 6/24/10, Tim wrote: >>> >>> Lori, I think that you need to educate yourself on >>> the policies and state of education in Arizona. >>> Arizona is not a good state for educators. Probe >>> around on the internet and ask a lot more questions >>> on this venue and discover for yourself. Arizona is >>> a good state to get your feet wet or get >>> experience. Tenure has been taken away in many >>> districts, unions are powerless, supplies for >>> teachers are scarce, amd I could go on. A good >>> analogy is would you want to work at Denny's or one >>> of the best known resturants in your local town. >>> How old are you? Take a shot at Arizona if you are >>> still young and aren't tied down. See for youself >>> and you may have a positive experience. On the >>> other hand, don't risk a lot of what you may have >>> for a job that you may be unhappy with. I hardly >>> ever see anyone rave about their experiences with >>> teaching in Arizona on this website. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/23/10, Lori wrote: >>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G wrote: >>>>> On 6/23/10, dm wrote: >>>>>> just this past year, tenure was voted out by >>>>>> the state legislature >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G. wrote: >>>>>>> Hey there, You guys will think I'm nuts for >>>>>>> considering leaving my teaching job in >>>>>>> Hawaii, but I have a phone interview on >>>>>>> Monday for a high school art position in >>>>>>> cottonwood, AZ. My question for AZ teachers >>>>>>> is: how safe are art positions in your >>>>>>> state (how long til tenure?), how likely is >>>>>>> it that I will earn 40,000+ (5 years >>>>>>> experience and a masters, plus highly >>>>>>> qualified), and what is school culture like >>>>>>> in that area? Any help before Monday is so >>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks, LWG.

Jun 28, 2010

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azedsucks No I think the illegals and the 49th national ranking in education released today for AZ has all to do with it!

On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: > I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with > your lack of a job. Just > some food for thought. > > On 6/28/10, azedsucks wrote: >> Face facts - we are a broke state about t...See MoreNo I think the illegals and the 49th national ranking in education released today for AZ has all to do with it!

On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: > I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with > your lack of a job. Just > some food for thought. > > On 6/28/10, azedsucks wrote: >> Face facts - we are a broke state about to face a >> multi billion dollar deficit starting next budget and >> our politicians do not care about education - we are >> in the bottom third in every category educationally >> related - why would anyone come to a place that is >> dead as far as any type of culture or things to do. >> Why would any business relocate or expand to a state >> that only wants to develop call center workers and >> retail employees. Our universitiees are a tuition >> rip-off. We are branded as haters even though I >> believe as many that SB1070 is not racist but talk to >> people across the USA and see what they are hearing >> about our state- we just passed prop 100 tax increase >> to "save" education (HA!) and there are >> still practically no new hires. Furthermore teachers >> in AZ are treated like babysitters who get all the >> blame when those brats misbehave Be smart and avoid >> this place- it is where people come to die - ask the >> folks in all our retirement communities who are also >> so anti education. >> >> And to all those who reply to this post with the get >> out if you don't like it crap - I wish I could but >> like thousands of others - unemployed teacher You >> know the above is Arizona reality and the numbers and >> area prove it. Now back to your local camper started >> wildfire. On 6/24/10, Tim wrote: >>> >>> Lori, I think that you need to educate yourself on >>> the policies and state of education in Arizona. >>> Arizona is not a good state for educators. Probe >>> around on the internet and ask a lot more questions >>> on this venue and discover for yourself. Arizona is >>> a good state to get your feet wet or get >>> experience. Tenure has been taken away in many >>> districts, unions are powerless, supplies for >>> teachers are scarce, amd I could go on. A good >>> analogy is would you want to work at Denny's or one >>> of the best known resturants in your local town. >>> How old are you? Take a shot at Arizona if you are >>> still young and aren't tied down. See for youself >>> and you may have a positive experience. On the >>> other hand, don't risk a lot of what you may have >>> for a job that you may be unhappy with. I hardly >>> ever see anyone rave about their experiences with >>> teaching in Arizona on this website. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/23/10, Lori wrote: >>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G wrote: >>>>> On 6/23/10, dm wrote: >>>>>> just this past year, tenure was voted out by >>>>>> the state legislature >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G. wrote: >>>>>>> Hey there, You guys will think I'm nuts for >>>>>>> considering leaving my teaching job in >>>>>>> Hawaii, but I have a phone interview on >>>>>>> Monday for a high school art position in >>>>>>> cottonwood, AZ. My question for AZ teachers >>>>>>> is: how safe are art positions in your >>>>>>> state (how long til tenure?), how likely is >>>>>>> it that I will earn 40,000+ (5 years >>>>>>> experience and a masters, plus highly >>>>>>> qualified), and what is school culture like >>>>>>> in that area? Any help before Monday is so >>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks, LWG.

Jun 30, 2010

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TomH01 On 6/30/10, azedsucks wrote: > No I think the illegals and the 49th national ranking in > education released today for AZ has all to do with it! > > On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: >> I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with >> your lack of a job. Just >> some food for thought. >> >> On 6/28/10, azedsuc...See MoreOn 6/30/10, azedsucks wrote: > No I think the illegals and the 49th national ranking in > education released today for AZ has all to do with it! > > On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: >> I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with >> your lack of a job. Just >> some food for thought. >> >> On 6/28/10, azedsucks wrote: >>> Face facts - we are a broke state about to face a >>> multi billion dollar deficit starting next budget and >>> our politicians do not care about education - we are >>> in the bottom third in every category educationally >>> related - why would anyone come to a place that is >>> dead as far as any type of culture or things to do. >>> Why would any business relocate or expand to a state >>> that only wants to develop call center workers and >>> retail employees. Our universitiees are a tuition >>> rip-off. We are branded as haters even though I >>> believe as many that SB1070 is not racist but talk to >>> people across the USA and see what they are hearing >>> about our state- we just passed prop 100 tax increase >>> to "save" education (HA!) and there are >>> still practically no new hires. Furthermore teachers >>> in AZ are treated like babysitters who get all the >>> blame when those brats misbehave Be smart and avoid >>> this place- it is where people come to die - ask the >>> folks in all our retirement communities who are also >>> so anti education. >>> >>> And to all those who reply to this post with the get >>> out if you don't like it crap - I wish I could but >>> like thousands of others - unemployed teacher You >>> know the above is Arizona reality and the numbers and >>> area prove it. Now back to your local camper started >>> wildfire. On 6/24/10, Tim wrote: >>>> >>>> Lori, I think that you need to educate yourself on >>>> the policies and state of education in Arizona. >>>> Arizona is not a good state for educators. Probe >>>> around on the internet and ask a lot more questions >>>> on this venue and discover for yourself. Arizona is >>>> a good state to get your feet wet or get >>>> experience. Tenure has been taken away in many >>>> districts, unions are powerless, supplies for >>>> teachers are scarce, amd I could go on. A good >>>> analogy is would you want to work at Denny's or one >>>> of the best known resturants in your local town. >>>> How old are you? Take a shot at Arizona if you are >>>> still young and aren't tied down. See for youself >>>> and you may have a positive experience. On the >>>> other hand, don't risk a lot of what you may have >>>> for a job that you may be unhappy with. I hardly >>>> ever see anyone rave about their experiences with >>>> teaching in Arizona on this website. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/23/10, Lori wrote: >>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G wrote: >>>>>> On 6/23/10, dm wrote: >>>>>>> just this past year, tenure was voted out by >>>>>>> the state legislature >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G. wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey there, You guys will think I'm nuts for >>>>>>>> considering leaving my teaching job in >>>>>>>> Hawaii, but I have a phone interview on >>>>>>>> Monday for a high school art position in >>>>>>>> cottonwood, AZ. My question for AZ teachers >>>>>>>> is: how safe are art positions in your >>>>>>>> state (how long til tenure?), how likely is >>>>>>>> it that I will earn 40,000+ (5 years >>>>>>>> experience and a masters, plus highly >>>>>>>> qualified), and what is school culture like >>>>>>>> in that area? Any help before Monday is so >>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks, LWG.

Aug 14, 2010

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Tom If I wasn't retiring with a NYC pension in a couple of years and moving down to Az then, I wouldn't go into teaching there. If you have a decent pension coming in, then you can take an entry level teaching job and have fun, not worrying about tenure, as I plan to do. But if you are not in that category, you're better off doing something else.
...See MoreIf I wasn't retiring with a NYC pension in a couple of years and moving down to Az then, I wouldn't go into teaching there. If you have a decent pension coming in, then you can take an entry level teaching job and have fun, not worrying about tenure, as I plan to do. But if you are not in that category, you're better off doing something else.

This situation is a crying shame. I remember looking at videos from 2001 when this state was hiring like mad.

On 6/30/10, azedsucks wrote: > No I think the illegals and the 49th national ranking in > education released today for AZ has all to do with it! > > On 6/28/10, Ha! wrote: >> I wonder if your bad attitude has anything to do with >> your lack of a job. Just >> some food for thought. >> >> On 6/28/10, azedsucks wrote: >>> Face facts - we are a broke state about to face a >>> multi billion dollar deficit starting next budget and >>> our politicians do not care about education - we are >>> in the bottom third in every category educationally >>> related - why would anyone come to a place that is >>> dead as far as any type of culture or things to do. >>> Why would any business relocate or expand to a state >>> that only wants to develop call center workers and >>> retail employees. Our universitiees are a tuition >>> rip-off. We are branded as haters even though I >>> believe as many that SB1070 is not racist but talk to >>> people across the USA and see what they are hearing >>> about our state- we just passed prop 100 tax increase >>> to "save" education (HA!) and there are >>> still practically no new hires. Furthermore teachers >>> in AZ are treated like babysitters who get all the >>> blame when those brats misbehave Be smart and avoid >>> this place- it is where people come to die - ask the >>> folks in all our retirement communities who are also >>> so anti education. >>> >>> And to all those who reply to this post with the get >>> out if you don't like it crap - I wish I could but >>> like thousands of others - unemployed teacher You >>> know the above is Arizona reality and the numbers and >>> area prove it. Now back to your local camper started >>> wildfire. On 6/24/10, Tim wrote: >>>> >>>> Lori, I think that you need to educate yourself on >>>> the policies and state of education in Arizona. >>>> Arizona is not a good state for educators. Probe >>>> around on the internet and ask a lot more questions >>>> on this venue and discover for yourself. Arizona is >>>> a good state to get your feet wet or get >>>> experience. Tenure has been taken away in many >>>> districts, unions are powerless, supplies for >>>> teachers are scarce, amd I could go on. A good >>>> analogy is would you want to work at Denny's or one >>>> of the best known resturants in your local town. >>>> How old are you? Take a shot at Arizona if you are >>>> still young and aren't tied down. See for youself >>>> and you may have a positive experience. On the >>>> other hand, don't risk a lot of what you may have >>>> for a job that you may be unhappy with. I hardly >>>> ever see anyone rave about their experiences with >>>> teaching in Arizona on this website. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/23/10, Lori wrote: >>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G wrote: >>>>>> On 6/23/10, dm wrote: >>>>>>> just this past year, tenure was voted out by >>>>>>> the state legislature >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/23/10, Lori G. wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey there, You guys will think I'm nuts for >>>>>>>> considering leaving my teaching job in >>>>>>>> Hawaii, but I have a phone interview on >>>>>>>> Monday for a high school art position in >>>>>>>> cottonwood, AZ. My question for AZ teachers >>>>>>>> is: how safe are art positions in your >>>>>>>> state (how long til tenure?), how likely is >>>>>>>> it that I will earn 40,000+ (5 years >>>>>>>> experience and a masters, plus highly >>>>>>>> qualified), and what is school culture like >>>>>>>> in that area? Any help before Monday is so >>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks, LWG.

Aug 14, 2010

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I'm amazed you got an interview.. We are laying off teachers; it's worse here than other places. The jobs that exist go to laid off teachers with the most experience.. not out of state teachers. This is especially true in art; in my program fully half the stundents were in art, and most high schools only need one teacher. It doesn't make sense anyone is even interviewing you. There...See More

Aug 22, 2010

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