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WHY IS ARIZONA SO BAD FOR TEACHERS = WHOSE IS AT FAULT?

by Kellie

Apr 8, 2011

What's the scoop? Who is to blame?

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ja There has been a climate of non-involvement within the legislature with educational issues. No one really cared if the illiterate learned to read. We have a huge "retired" community that did not really care about the educational issues. We were a largely agrarian community that really did not know about that education beyond a certain age was a nec...See More

Apr 10, 2011

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kl Here, here! Definitely the governmental powers-that-be are the catalysts for lame decision-making on the part of the school district administrators. It should be against ALL laws known to man that any kind of funding for education be nixed, at any level. How can our own state lawmakers JUSTIFY cutting education funds when we have recently been rank...See MoreHere, here! Definitely the governmental powers-that-be are the catalysts for lame decision-making on the part of the school district administrators. It should be against ALL laws known to man that any kind of funding for education be nixed, at any level. How can our own state lawmakers JUSTIFY cutting education funds when we have recently been ranked #50?!!

There are too many administrators at the district level and school level who have NO classroom teaching experience, or very little, OR their experience was 20 years ago, who are making decisions that they claim are in the "best interest" of Arizona's students. More testing, more accountability on the teacher, more technology (which changes every year, and is ultimately incompatible with the current technology in place), more dog/pony shows, etc.

Teachers are viewed here as magicians. We are not magicians. Why are teachers held to the highest of standards as a priest is in the private church sector? Then, when our TRANSIENT students come and go through our classes, and don't perform at level because they have missed critical concepts of education, thus failing important tests, yep, the teachers are still blamed for it.

Why is Arizona so bad for teachers, you ask? Maybe the parents who don't give a rip should be asked, "What are YOU doing to help your teacher who is helping your child?"

On 4/10/11, ja wrote: > There has been a climate of non-involvement within the > legislature with educational issues. No one really cared if > the illiterate learned to read. We have a huge "retired" > community that did not really care about the educational > issues. We were a largely agrarian community that really did > not know about that education beyond a certain age was a > necessity and no one to represent their interests. We had > McCain at the helm for the last thousand years and he catered > to special interest groups. Our legislature typically limits > their involvement in education to proposing bills that would > have schools and teachers reports suspected illegal immigrant > children. Our legislators also proposed bills that would > have teachers carry guns in the classroom. The wealthier > citizens did have decent educational systems but the poor > were ignored. Go into any of our new schools and look at the > administrators. They are paid huge salaries but have little > experience with classroom issues. There are no books for the > students, no supplies and teachers are paid a poverty wage. > The teachers have no union to represent their interests, > there is no legislator willing to represent the interests of > the students, the school committees are full of corruption. > Good experienced teachers from other states come into the > system that want to make a change however throw up their > hands after a couple of years of battling the system and > understanding that the fight isn't worth the emotional and > physical toll and leave with sanity intact.. > On 4/08/11, Kellie wrote: >> What's the scoop? >> Who is to blame?

Apr 14, 2011

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Sean Dog and Pony Show!!! That is exactly what my principal told me she wanted to see. The vice principal didn't know her teachers, walked like a turtle,and was very critical and suspicious of her teachers. The teachers are in the trenches and there is nobody to support them

On 4/14/11, kl wrote:

> Here, here! Definitely the govern...See MoreDog and Pony Show!!! That is exactly what my principal told me she wanted to see. The vice principal didn't know her teachers, walked like a turtle,and was very critical and suspicious of her teachers. The teachers are in the trenches and there is nobody to support them

On 4/14/11, kl wrote:

> Here, here! Definitely the governmental powers-that-be are the > catalysts for lame decision-making on the part of the school > district administrators. It should be against ALL laws known to > man that any kind of funding for education be nixed, at any > level. How can our own state lawmakers JUSTIFY cutting education > funds when we have recently been ranked #50?!! > > There are too many administrators at the district level and > school level who have NO classroom teaching experience, or very > little, OR their experience was 20 years ago, who are making > decisions that they claim are in the "best interest" of > Arizona's students. More testing, more accountability on the > teacher, more technology (which changes every year, and is > ultimately incompatible with the current technology in place), > more dog/pony shows, etc. > > Teachers are viewed here as magicians. We are not magicians. Why > are teachers held to the highest of standards as a priest is in > the private church sector? Then, when our TRANSIENT students > come and go through our classes, and don't perform at level > because they have missed critical concepts of education, thus > failing important tests, yep, the teachers are still blamed for > it. > > Why is Arizona so bad for teachers, you ask? Maybe the parents > who don't give a rip should be asked, "What are YOU doing to > help your teacher who is helping your child?" > > On 4/10/11, ja wrote: >> There has been a climate of non-involvement within the >> legislature with educational issues. No one really cared if >> the illiterate learned to read. We have a huge "retired" >> community that did not really care about the educational >> issues. We were a largely agrarian community that really did >> not know about that education beyond a certain age was a >> necessity and no one to represent their interests. We had >> McCain at the helm for the last thousand years and he catered >> to special interest groups. Our legislature typically limits >> their involvement in education to proposing bills that would >> have schools and teachers reports suspected illegal immigrant >> children. Our legislators also proposed bills that would >> have teachers carry guns in the classroom. The wealthier >> citizens did have decent educational systems but the poor >> were ignored. Go into any of our new schools and look at the >> administrators. They are paid huge salaries but have little >> experience with classroom issues. There are no books for the >> students, no supplies and teachers are paid a poverty wage. >> The teachers have no union to represent their interests, >> there is no legislator willing to represent the interests of >> the students, the school committees are full of corruption. >> Good experienced teachers from other states come into the >> system that want to make a change however throw up their >> hands after a couple of years of battling the system and >> understanding that the fight isn't worth the emotional and >> physical toll and leave with sanity intact.. >> On 4/08/11, Kellie wrote: >>> What's the scoop? >>> Who is to blame?

Apr 15, 2011

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some teacher On 4/08/11, Kellie wrote: > What's the scoop? > Who is to blame? "Who's" at fault. Not "whose" = )

Our Governor keeps making cuts and there are some school districts who don't know how to handle their money.

Jun 4, 2011

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