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Are female teachers responsible for low wages?

by Suzie Orman

Apr 13, 2016

Never put yourself on sale girls! Why are you working under such conditions?

coyoteboy Are you serious? I can't believe I'm even dignifying this with a response, but it can't go unanswered. Male AND female teachers are paid based on their YEARS OF EXPERIENCE and whether or not they have an advanced degree. There is a set salary scale which is a matter of public record since our salaries are paid with public funds. Male and female tea...See More

Apr 15, 2016

are you for real? On 4/13/16, Suzie Orman wrote: > Never put yourself on sale girls! > Why are you working under such conditions?

Why would you even post something like this using your real name? At least hide your identity so no one knows you.

Apr 16, 2016

anon On 4/15/16, coyoteboy wrote: > Are you serious? I can't believe I'm even dignifying this > with a response, but it can't go unanswered. Male AND female > teachers are paid based on their YEARS OF EXPERIENCE and > whether or not they have an advanced degree. There is a set > salary scale which is a matter of public record since our &g...See MoreOn 4/15/16, coyoteboy wrote: > Are you serious? I can't believe I'm even dignifying this > with a response, but it can't go unanswered. Male AND female > teachers are paid based on their YEARS OF EXPERIENCE and > whether or not they have an advanced degree. There is a set > salary scale which is a matter of public record since our > salaries are paid with public funds. Male and female teachers > get paid THE EXACT FREAKIN' SAME. When we apply for jobs, > there is no salary negotiation involved, so I don't see how > salary discrimination could be taking place. (Teachers.net > nation, I expect you to set me straight if I'm mistaken > here!) We're not "selling ourselves" short in any sense > except that we could be making a lot more in another > profession...ladies AND gentlemen alike! It's inflammatory > comments like this that are hindering the cause of equal > pay/equal rights. Please keep your ignorance to yourself > unless you can contribute something positive to the dialogue.

Actually, teaching is low-paid compared to other occupations of similar education and difficulty because it is considered a traditional female job and therefore they are paid secondary wages. There are still far more women in this field than men overall, especially on the elementary level.

Women are paid less than men because it is assumed that women do not need the money the way men do. It is assumed all women are married and being financially supported by husbands--the reality of women's work doesn't factor in. Therefore businesses and government entities pay women less in good conscience because they figure the husband's income makes up for the shortchanging of women in their jobs.

There is no question sexism rules in public ed and in the attitudes of reformers seeking to abolish public ed. It is worse for classified employees such as classroom assistants, who are not eligible for UI when they are laid off during the summer, yet loggers, construction workers, and fishing personnel are able to collect? Why is that? Sexism. School districts assume all classroom classified workers are married and supported by husbands.

Apr 18, 2016

coyoteboy Granted. Sexism is alive and well in many aspects of society, and many industries have huge pay gaps between male and female workers in the exact same positions. Also granted that teaching is a low-paying because traditionally feminine job. I'm not arguing with any of that. What I have a problem with is this poster's assertion that 1) female teache...See More

Apr 18, 2016

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