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Why Can't Teachers Strike?

by Terri

Apr 20, 2016

I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading papers and looking for exciting lesson plans and created some of my own, I figure my hourly wage is lower than $10 an hour. I will be in my 50's soon and don't own anything and feel like I am giving my time and energy to the school for hardly nothing. What gives with this state? Why do teachers accept such a low wage because I am soon looking for a more lucrative position so my future is also taken care of.

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mark On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading >>>> papers >>>>> and looking for exciting lesson plans and creat...See MoreOn 4/21/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading >>>> papers >>>>> and looking for exciting lesson plans and created some >>>>> of my own, I figure my hourly wage is lower than $10 >>>>> an >>>> hour. >>>>> I will be in my 50's soon and don't own anything and >>>>> feel like I am giving my time and energy to the school >>>>> for hardly nothing. What gives with this state? Why do >>>> teachers >>>>> accept such a low wage because I am soon looking for a >>>> more >>>>> lucrative position so my future is also taken care of. >>>> >>>> Most states do not allow teachers to strike. Many don't >>>> allow public employees that right. It makes no sense at >>>> all except for police and fire because of community >>>> safety. Because teachers don't have the right to strike >>>> in 37 states, their "unions" are basically powerless. >>>> It's worse if they are in a "right to work" state. >>> >>> >>> Do you have Masters degree if so the minimum salary in >>> New Mexico is $53,000 Deming NM and other smaller cities >>> need teachers they also have a wonderful retirement >>> system. >> >> I'm guessing a Masters degree is Level 3? I looked up >> their website/salary schedule. They pay literally an >> extra dollar or two per year of experience. So someone >> with 25 years will make about $35 more than a newbie. >> Their salary, then, is essentially flat regardless of >> experience. >> >> Still, I suppose it is good for a newbie looking for a >> good starting salary, and I have to imagine small town >> cost of living would be good. I wouldn't worry about >> retirement though because with no chance to move up in >> salary, it is not worth staying beyond a few years > > If you have Masters and six years experience you start at > $53,000.

And, reading their salary scale, you start at $53,000 and you stay at $53,000 for the rest of your career. There is no advancement.

Apr 22, 2016

Denise On 4/22/16, mark wrote: > On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading >>>>> papers >>>>...See MoreOn 4/22/16, mark wrote: > On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading >>>>> papers >>>>>> and looking for exciting lesson plans and created some >>>>>> of my own, I figure my hourly wage is lower than $10 >>>>>> an >>>>> hour. >>>>>> I will be in my 50's soon and don't own anything and >>>>>> feel like I am giving my time and energy to the school >>>>>> for hardly nothing. What gives with this state? Why do >>>>> teachers >>>>>> accept such a low wage because I am soon looking for a >>>>> more >>>>>> lucrative position so my future is also taken care of. >>>>> >>>>> Most states do not allow teachers to strike. Many don't >>>>> allow public employees that right. It makes no sense at >>>>> all except for police and fire because of community >>>>> safety. Because teachers don't have the right to strike >>>>> in 37 states, their "unions" are basically powerless. >>>>> It's worse if they are in a "right to work" state. >>>> >>>> >>>> Do you have Masters degree if so the minimum salary in >>>> New Mexico is $53,000 Deming NM and other smaller cities >>>> need teachers they also have a wonderful retirement >>>> system. >>> >>> I'm guessing a Masters degree is Level 3? I looked up >>> their website/salary schedule. They pay literally an >>> extra dollar or two per year of experience. So someone >>> with 25 years will make about $35 more than a newbie. >>> Their salary, then, is essentially flat regardless of >>> experience. >>> >>> Still, I suppose it is good for a newbie looking for a >>> good starting salary, and I have to imagine small town >>> cost of living would be good. I wouldn't worry about >>> retirement though because with no chance to move up in >>> salary, it is not worth staying beyond a few years >> >> If you have Masters and six years experience you start at >> $53,000. > > And, reading their salary scale, you start at $53,000 and you > stay at $53,000 for the rest of your career. There is no > advancement.

Depends are where you are now if your only making in the $30,000 to $40,000 range then where will you be in ten years with that?

Apr 22, 2016

mark On 4/22/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at h...See MoreOn 4/22/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home grading >>>>>> papers >>>>>>> and looking for exciting lesson plans and created some >>>>>>> of my own, I figure my hourly wage is lower than $10 >>>>>>> an >>>>>> hour. >>>>>>> I will be in my 50's soon and don't own anything and >>>>>>> feel like I am giving my time and energy to the school >>>>>>> for hardly nothing. What gives with this state? Why do >>>>>> teachers >>>>>>> accept such a low wage because I am soon looking for a >>>>>> more >>>>>>> lucrative position so my future is also taken care of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most states do not allow teachers to strike. Many don't >>>>>> allow public employees that right. It makes no sense at >>>>>> all except for police and fire because of community >>>>>> safety. Because teachers don't have the right to strike >>>>>> in 37 states, their "unions" are basically powerless. >>>>>> It's worse if they are in a "right to work" state. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do you have Masters degree if so the minimum salary in >>>>> New Mexico is $53,000 Deming NM and other smaller cities >>>>> need teachers they also have a wonderful retirement >>>>> system. >>>> >>>> I'm guessing a Masters degree is Level 3? I looked up >>>> their website/salary schedule. They pay literally an >>>> extra dollar or two per year of experience. So someone >>>> with 25 years will make about $35 more than a newbie. >>>> Their salary, then, is essentially flat regardless of >>>> experience. >>>> >>>> Still, I suppose it is good for a newbie looking for a >>>> good starting salary, and I have to imagine small town >>>> cost of living would be good. I wouldn't worry about >>>> retirement though because with no chance to move up in >>>> salary, it is not worth staying beyond a few years >>> >>> If you have Masters and six years experience you start at >>> $53,000. >> >> And, reading their salary scale, you start at $53,000 and you >> stay at $53,000 for the rest of your career. There is no >> advancement. > > > Depends are where you are now if your only making in the $30,000 > to $40,000 range then where will you be in ten years with that?

True, which makes me wonder why anyone stays in teaching at all, except for June, July, and August.

Apr 22, 2016

Denise On 4/22/16, mark wrote:
> On 4/22/16, Denise wrote:
>> On 4/22/16, mark wrote:
>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote:
>>>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/20/16, T...See More

Apr 22, 2016

Denise On 4/22/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >> On 4/22/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>>>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>...See MoreOn 4/22/16, Denise wrote: > On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >> On 4/22/16, Denise wrote: >>> On 4/22/16, mark wrote: >>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>> On 4/21/16, no $ for experience. wrote: >>>>>> On 4/21/16, Denise wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/20/16, anon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/20/16, Terri wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm 46. With all the hours I put in at home >>>>>>>>> grading >>>>>>>> papers >>>>>>>>> and looking for exciting lesson plans and created >>>>>>>>> some of my own, I figure my hourly wage is lower >>>>>>>>> than $10 an >>>>>>>> hour. >>>>>>>>> I will be in my 50's soon and don't own anything >>>>>>>>> and feel like I am giving my time and energy to >>>>>>>>> the school for hardly nothing. What gives with >>>>>>>>> this state? Why do >>>>>>>> teachers >>>>>>>>> accept such a low wage because I am soon looking >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> lucrative position so my future is also taken care >>>>>>>>> of. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most states do not allow teachers to strike. Many >>>>>>>> don't allow public employees that right. It makes >>>>>>>> no sense at all except for police and fire because >>>>>>>> of community safety. Because teachers don't have >>>>>>>> the right to strike in 37 states, their "unions" >>>>>>>> are basically powerless. It's worse if they are in >>>>>>>> a "right to work" state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you have Masters degree if so the minimum salary >>>>>>> in New Mexico is $53,000 Deming NM and other smaller >>>>>>> cities need teachers they also have a wonderful >>>>>>> retirement system. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing a Masters degree is Level 3? I looked up >>>>>> their website/salary schedule. They pay literally an >>>>>> extra dollar or two per year of experience. So >>>>>> someone with 25 years will make about $35 more than a >>>>>> newbie. Their salary, then, is essentially flat >>>>>> regardless of experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> Still, I suppose it is good for a newbie looking for >>>>>> a good starting salary, and I have to imagine small >>>>>> town cost of living would be good. I wouldn't worry >>>>>> about retirement though because with no chance to >>>>>> move up in salary, it is not worth staying beyond a >>>>>> few years >>>>> >>>>> If you have Masters and six years experience you start >>>>> at $53,000. >>>> >>>> And, reading their salary scale, you start at $53,000 >>>> and you stay at $53,000 for the rest of your career. >>>> There is no advancement. >>> >>> >>> Depends are where you are now if your only making in the >>> $30,000 to $40,000 range then where will you be in ten >>> years with that? >> >> True, which makes me wonder why anyone stays in teaching >> at all, except for June, July, and August. > > > What magnificent skills do you have outside of the > teaching world????

New Mexico teacher job fair tomorrow in Glendale Hampton Inn.

Apr 22, 2016

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