Here is my dilemma: My temporary three year nonrenewable certification expires in June. I have classroom hours and I successfully completed the required education courses. Unfortunately, I never completed the Professional Educational Competencies program. I wasn’t at the public school long enough and the private school never worked on it either. Without a full-time teaching job, I was unable to complete this requirement. According to FDOE, I will have to wait an entire year until I can apply for new certification. Hopefully, I do not have to retake the exams or courses. One time was enough, thank you.
I am considering applying to non-instructional positions. I eventually want to become a media specialist or ESE teacher, so I am looking at media clerks, ESE aides, classroom assistants, substitute teaching, and other clerical jobs. This way, I can remain in a school setting, see a school culture and classroom management in action, and of course, make a living. Has anyone else ever been in this situation? What did you do? Hopefully, the job market and my skills will improve and I’ll have better luck next time.
On 3/13/13, kaye wrote: > perhaps you can consider ...See MoreLet me ask an obvious question: Why not consider a career outside of education? It should be clear that you are jumping through a lot of hoops and not getting a job in the circus known as public education in Florida. At some point you say" this is not happening and I am going nowhere"
On 3/13/13, kaye wrote: > perhaps you can consider applying at a county library. > university libraries are also an option. there may even be > jobs at the state or federal level for which you are > qualified. there are some specialized library jobs such as > medical librarian. doors may be shutting for a reason. best > wishes . . . > > > > On 3/13/13, Sarah wrote: >> I have a Masters degree in Library and Information Science. >> I received temporary educator certification for Media >> Specialist, PK-12 when I started working in a public >> school. I since added Exceptional Student Education, K-12 >> certification and recently passed Elementary Education, K-6 >> exam. Because I was inexperienced, the school could not or >> would not support a first year teacher, and the school >> needed a more experienced teacher, that position did not >> last long. I relocated to take a position at a private >> school later that same year. The private school job was >> only until the end of the school year. I have been futilely >> searching for teaching positions in two geographical >> locations for the past two years. Last year, I substituted >> over an hour away from home. This gave me classroom >> management skills and a deeper knowledge of various >> classroom and school cultures. I relocated back because my >> home region had more opportunities. I am currently an >> instructor at a tutoring company and a counselor for an >> elementary school after school program. >> >> Here is my dilemma: My temporary three year nonrenewable >> certification expires in June. I have classroom hours and I >> successfully completed the required education courses. >> Unfortunately, I never completed the Professional >> Educational Competencies program. I wasn’t at the public >> school long enough and the private school never worked on >> it either. Without a full-time teaching job, I was unable >> to complete this requirement. According to FDOE, I will >> have to wait an entire year until I can apply for new >> certification. Hopefully, I do not have to retake the exams >> or courses. One time was enough, thank you. >> >> I am considering applying to non-instructional positions. I >> eventually want to become a media specialist or ESE >> teacher, so I am looking at media clerks, ESE aides, >> classroom assistants, substitute teaching, and other >> clerical jobs. This way, I can remain in a school setting, >> see a school culture and classroom management in action, >> and of course, make a living. Has anyone else ever been in >> this situation? What did you do? Hopefully, the job market >> and my skills will improve and I’ll have better luck next >> time. >> >> Thank you for your advice.
Question: How do I explain the...See MoreI still apply to library jobs when I find them. Paraprofessional jobs are opening up. I am also following up on leads from organizations that work with people with disabilities. Hopefully, something good comes of all this. I've made more headway in 6 months in my hometown than I did in 2 years we lived away.
Question: How do I explain the expired certification? Do I mention the catch-22s (need experience to get a job, need a job to get experience; need full-year experience to complete requirements for certification)? Do I mention that I plan to apply for new certification once I am eligible? Do I mention that in the meantime, I am pursuing paraprofessional positions to keep up my skills, get the experience, stay in the field?
Obviously, how I would approach a paraprofessional position in a school would be different than how I would approach a private or non- education organization.
Thank you.
On 3/15/13, Janis wrote: > > Let me ask an obvious question: Why not consider a career outside > of education? It should be clear that you are jumping through a > lot of hoops and not getting a job in the circus known as public > education in Florida. At some point you say" this is not > happening and I am going nowhere" > > > > > > > On 3/13/13, kaye wrote: >> perhaps you can consider applying at a county library. >> university libraries are also an option. there may even be >> jobs at the state or federal level for which you are >> qualified. there are some specialized library jobs such as >> medical librarian. doors may be shutting for a reason. best >> wishes . . . >> >> >> >> On 3/13/13, Sarah wrote: >>> I have a Masters degree in Library and Information Science. >>> I received temporary educator certification for Media >>> Specialist, PK-12 when I started working in a public >>> school. I since added Exceptional Student Education, K-12 >>> certification and recently passed Elementary Education, K-6 >>> exam. Because I was inexperienced, the school could not or >>> would not support a first year teacher, and the school >>> needed a more experienced teacher, that position did not >>> last long. I relocated to take a position at a private >>> school later that same year. The private school job was >>> only until the end of the school year. I have been futilely >>> searching for teaching positions in two geographical >>> locations for the past two years. Last year, I substituted >>> over an hour away from home. This gave me classroom >>> management skills and a deeper knowledge of various >>> classroom and school cultures. I relocated back because my >>> home region had more opportunities. I am currently an >>> instructor at a tutoring company and a counselor for an >>> elementary school after school program. >>> >>> Here is my dilemma: My temporary three year nonrenewable >>> certification expires in June. I have classroom hours and I >>> successfully completed the required education courses. >>> Unfortunately, I never completed the Professional >>> Educational Competencies program. I wasn’t at the public >>> school long enough and the private school never worked on >>> it either. Without a full-time teaching job, I was unable >>> to complete this requirement. According to FDOE, I will >>> have to wait an entire year until I can apply for new >>> certification. Hopefully, I do not have to retake the exams >>> or courses. One time was enough, thank you. >>> >>> I am considering applying to non-instructional positions. I >>> eventually want to become a media specialist or ESE >>> teacher, so I am looking at media clerks, ESE aides, >>> classroom assistants, substitute teaching, and other >>> clerical jobs. This way, I can remain in a school setting, >>> see a school culture and classroom management in action, >>> and of course, make a living. Has anyone else ever been in >>> this situation? What did you do? Hopefully, the job market >>> and my skills will improve and I’ll have better luck next >>> time. >>> >>> Thank you for your advice.
On 3/16/13, wpooh wrote: > I am looking into teaching elementary education in Osceola > school district. Had one interview that went well, but > still waiting to see if I get an offer. I hav 2o years of > experience teaching in Europe and I know things have > changed a lot since I left the US. We just bought a house > there and are getting ready to move there. Can anyone tell > me anything about working for the district and about any of > the elementary schools? I´ve read all the negative stuff > but when I interviewed and saw the school I liked what I > saw and the staff seemed happy. Thank you.
I signed up at teacher to teacher to look for jobs. They in turn send me notices of what is availablel I can´t believe all the vacancies throughout Florida every other week. Is it so bad that people are leaving or are they being fired?
Re...See MoreOn 3/18/13, wpooh wrote: > I signed up at teacher to teacher to look for jobs. They in > turn send me notices of what is availablel I can´t believe > all the vacancies throughout Florida every other week. Is > it so bad that people are leaving or are they being fired?
Are these public schools, charters, or private?
Remember that vacancy doesn't mean there is a job available. The prince usually know who s/he will hire when posting a vacancy, but has to have interviews to make it legal.
I assure you that there are not a lot of public school jobs in the counties that pay well. You will have to sub for years to get your foot in the door.
I...See MoreOn 3/20/13, Brroke Fl Teacher wrote: > On 3/18/13, wpooh wrote: >> I signed up at teacher to teacher to look for jobs. They in >> turn send me notices of what is availablel I can´t believe >> all the vacancies throughout Florida every other week. Is >> it so bad that people are leaving or are they being fired?
I am not familiar with Teacher to Teacher, but I have an account with Teacher-Teacher
I can tell you about Teacher-Teacher vacancies (I doubt it is very different). I have found that almost all of the vacancy postings on there are fakes. I know that because I have read those postings for years now and day after day, it is the same schools who post the same supposed openings constantly. Having called them a few of them, it seems that this is a strategy to have a large pool of applications available to them at all times "just in case."
There are a few times that the vacancies are genuine. A couple of years back a teacher died surfing during a hurricane. His school district posted an opening on the site that I use. Other than that emergency, I have never seen that school district use that site.
Mostly schools seem to post there when they don't really have a vacancy or when they don't really want to hire anybody. It allows them to claim they are looking for certified teachers. Then they can claim that nobody qualified applied and they can keep whoever they really want to have.
The Native American schools in Florida do that. They post math openings there. They keep the posting up for months sometimes. You don't need to bother applying. They aren't going to hire you unless you are indian or unless they know you somehow basically. They have an "unqualified" person in the position and they don't want someone else. So they just put a posting on that teacher job site and then ignore the applicants.
I have seen this over and over and over again. I can almost guarantee you that 90% of the supposed vacancies you are looking at are not genuine
I was fired from Florida Virtual School. In their report or reason for firing me they stated untrue statements that will hurt me getting employed at another school. Does anyone know a lawyer I could contact for help? Thank you.
If you have a job at a regular school, don't work for them.
On 3/27/13, anon wrote: > Those schools are little more than call center-type jobs anyway, > and they have about as much prestige. > > Good luck getting a lawyer. I personally think you have an > uphill battle since you were an at-will employee anyway. It all > depends on what they gave as the reason for firing you. > > > On 3/27/13, Good luck...hope you're able to nail 'em wrote: >> But if you're hoping to win any monetary payment, you'd better >> work fast, because none of these virtual schools are likely to >> be around in another few years. I've heard nothing but >> terrible things about them, and I'd be a waitress before I took >> a job at one of those places. >> >> You couldn't have been there for very long. Could you just >> skip naming them as a reference? (Might not work, now that >> everybody's googling job applicants' names.) The good news is, >> you might be able to explain the situation to the right, >> sympathetic principal. Surely there are few principals at >> traditional schools, in Florida or anywhere else, who put much >> stock in these shady virtual schools that have been popping up >> overnight. >> >> >> On 3/26/13, ex-employee wrote: >>> I was fired from Florida Virtual School. In their report or >>> reason for firing me they stated untrue statements that >>> will hurt me getting employed at another school. Does >>> anyone know a lawyer I could contact for help? Thank you. >>> >>> If you have a job at a regular school, don't work for them.
The person could try to substitute teach ...See MoreThe cases are typically contingency-based, but lawyers are going to be very picky about taking cases because it takes years and years for these cases to be resolved.
The trouble with this case is the person was basically an at-will employee, and it would be very hard to prove defamation.
The person could try to substitute teach in a public school district and get references that way. There are ways around needing that "last principal" or "supervisor" (it's usually supervisor) on listing references on applications.
On 3/28/13, Ingrid wrote: > Any good lawyer will cost you about 3/4 of a year's salary and even > if you win...you have to prove damages...about one years wages > > > > > > On 3/27/13, anon wrote: >> Those schools are little more than call center-type jobs anyway, >> and they have about as much prestige. >> >> Good luck getting a lawyer. I personally think you have an >> uphill battle since you were an at-will employee anyway. It all >> depends on what they gave as the reason for firing you. >> >> >> On 3/27/13, Good luck...hope you're able to nail 'em wrote: >>> But if you're hoping to win any monetary payment, you'd better >>> work fast, because none of these virtual schools are likely to >>> be around in another few years. I've heard nothing but >>> terrible things about them, and I'd be a waitress before I took >>> a job at one of those places. >>> >>> You couldn't have been there for very long. Could you just >>> skip naming them as a reference? (Might not work, now that >>> everybody's googling job applicants' names.) The good news is, >>> you might be able to explain the situation to the right, >>> sympathetic principal. Surely there are few principals at >>> traditional schools, in Florida or anywhere else, who put much >>> stock in these shady virtual schools that have been popping up >>> overnight. >>> >>> >>> On 3/26/13, ex-employee wrote: >>>> I was fired from Florida Virtual School. In their report or >>>> reason for firing me they stated untrue statements that >>>> will hurt me getting employed at another school. Does >>>> anyone know a lawyer I could contact for help? Thank you. >>>> >>>> If you have a job at a regular school, don't work for them.
Chinese investors are taking advantage of the EB-5 investment visa program, the so-called "green card via red carpet," by putting millions into Florida's charter schools and an aquaculture farm in Central Florida.
Under the EB-5 program, through investments of at least $1 million — or $500,000 for "targeted employment areas" — foreign nationals are able to obtain legal residency in the US so long as the money they invest will help secure or create at least 10 full-time jobs.
A group of Chinese investors have put $30 million into the state's charter school program to date and are looking to invest three times that amount in the next year, Ilona Vega
On 4/15/13, Scooby wrote: > This is not surprising. The Chinese will infiltrate and take > over from within. No military invasion necessary. The irony is, > our nation will have willingly opened the doors and welcomed this > takeover with open arms. My cousin worked for a U.S. company in > Largo, FL, that was bought out 10 years ago by the Chinese. > The 'dragon lady'(as my cousin dubbed her), who was sent from > China to run the company, told him that China would get control > of America by first taking over our economy, then by > indoctrinating our youth through education. Looks like the plan > is working. > BTW, my cousin was the last American employee to leave the > company about 6 years ago. All the others were driven off one > way or another, then replaced with Chinese nationals who came > over here on work visas. > > > > > On 4/05/13, Hey, if that's how the free market works, right? > wrote: >> In a purely capitalist world, everything has a price tag, >> including our own children. >> >> Food is food. Who cares whether it walks on four legs or two? >> >> >> On 4/04/13, pw wrote: >>> nvestment money is pouring into Florida from wealthy >>> Chinese who find that Florida has exactly what they are >>> looking for — and what they need to secure US green cards. >>> >>> Chinese investors are taking advantage of the EB-5 >>> investment visa program, the so-called "green card via red >>> carpet," by putting millions into Florida's charter schools >>> and an aquaculture farm in Central Florida. >>> >>> Under the EB-5 program, through investments of at least $1 >>> million — or $500,000 for "targeted employment areas" — >>> foreign nationals are able to obtain legal residency in the >>> US so long as the money they invest will help secure or >>> create at least 10 full-time jobs. >>> >>> A group of Chinese investors have put $30 million into the >>> state's charter school program to date and are looking to >>> invest three times that amount in the next year, Ilona Vega
On 4/15/13, Scooby wrote: > This is not surprising...See MoreThis governor has to have the poorest judgement of any governor and the legislature is right with them...NO nation on earth would let the Chinese invest in their educational system...not one would dare but Gov. Reich Scott embraces them. One authoritarian loves another authoritarian...
On 4/15/13, Scooby wrote: > This is not surprising. The Chinese will infiltrate and take > over from within. No military invasion necessary. The irony is, > our nation will have willingly opened the doors and welcomed this > takeover with open arms. My cousin worked for a U.S. company in > Largo, FL, that was bought out 10 years ago by the Chinese. > The 'dragon lady'(as my cousin dubbed her), who was sent from > China to run the company, told him that China would get control > of America by first taking over our economy, then by > indoctrinating our youth through education. Looks like the plan > is working. > BTW, my cousin was the last American employee to leave the > company about 6 years ago. All the others were driven off one > way or another, then replaced with Chinese nationals who came > over here on work visas. > > > > > On 4/05/13, Hey, if that's how the free market works, right? > wrote: >> In a purely capitalist world, everything has a price tag, >> including our own children. >> >> Food is food. Who cares whether it walks on four legs or two? >> >> >> On 4/04/13, pw wrote: >>> nvestment money is pouring into Florida from wealthy >>> Chinese who find that Florida has exactly what they are >>> looking for — and what they need to secure US green cards. >>> >>> Chinese investors are taking advantage of the EB-5 >>> investment visa program, the so-called "green card via red >>> carpet," by putting millions into Florida's charter schools >>> and an aquaculture farm in Central Florida. >>> >>> Under the EB-5 program, through investments of at least $1 >>> million — or $500,000 for "targeted employment areas" — >>> foreign nationals are able to obtain legal residency in the >>> US so long as the money they invest will help secure or >>> create at least 10 full-time jobs. >>> >>> A group of Chinese investors have put $30 million into the >>> state's charter school program to date and are looking to >>> invest three times that amount in the next year, Ilona Vega
Mel ChesterfieldOn 4/06/13, Dan wrote: > What is the best study guide for the Professional teachers exam? CLIFFS TEST PREP FTCE: Professional Education Test Sandra Luna McCune, PhD., and Vi Cain Alexander
Ex-teacherOn 4/06/13, Mel Chesterfield wrote: > On 4/06/13, Dan wrote: >> What is the best study guide for the Professional teachers exam? > CLIFFS TEST PREP > FTCE: Professional Education Test > Sandra Luna McCune, PhD., and Vi Cain Alexander
Don't study, it's common sense if you've had teacher training classes.
Hey, Can anyone who teaches in Florida give me a heads up on how invasive administrators are in your classrooms and how much freedom you have to use creativity in designing lessons etc...
I've taught most grades k-5 in FL. I can't speak to Cali, but I have been required to differentiate with "research-based" stuff for years. What that means is no creativity, since the research stuff is from the textbook companies or FCRR.org (or .com? .gov?) When I taught special ed, I couln't use textbook materials from a lower grade, even though my students were all below grade level. That means I either had to use the grade-level material that they could not understand, or create everything that they actually learned from myself from "research-based" materials. You can imagine how much work that was.
I could be creative in social studies and science. Otherwise, math, reading, and writing are all scripted, with "research- based" differentiation and RtI must be from "research-based" materials as well.
In Polk County (center of state), you will have NO freedom to be creative. We do LFS(Learning Focused Strategies) lesson plans, even though we no longer have a contract with them.
You are given a template that you fill in, and it better be completed fully, or your principal will have something to say about it.
On 4/29/13, TKB wrote: > Read through previous posts completely. Sure your district is currently > using seniority. The previous post does not say they can't, but after > 2014 school year, such use is in doubt. > >> >> I wonder how that affects teachers on leave? They wouldn't have VAM >> evaluations. My district allows up to 5 years of maternity leave (I >> knew a teacher who spaced her kids out so she could be gone on leave >> for 10 years.). >> >> There must be a reason, beyond tie-breakers, that my district goes >> through the trouble of seniority lists. They're still offering us >> the seniority-based right to go back to schools or areas we were >> surplussed from. I just filled out the form to get back in my old >> neighborhood for the higher test scores. (I'm no fool. My title-one >> school is rated A, but with test-score based firings that means >> nothing.)
Broke FL TeacherOn 4/29/13, Renee wrote: > > > If teachers knew when they started what they know now....they would be > nurses making $60K by now... > >
Yup. We care about our own health enough to pay nurses well, but we don't care enough about our children to pay their teachers well.
On 3/13/13, kaye wrote: > perhaps you can consider ...See More