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Huh, can't reply on this board for some reason.
So, you've been asked to resign or you'll be terminated. This is a shame and I'm sorry. I personally don't like this tactic as an administrator.
See, I'm not an expert on unemployment, but here's the reasoning behind this. You're right when you say you can't get unemployment payments...See MoreHuh, can't reply on this board for some reason.
So, you've been asked to resign or you'll be terminated. This is a shame and I'm sorry. I personally don't like this tactic as an administrator.
See, I'm not an expert on unemployment, but here's the reasoning behind this. You're right when you say you can't get unemployment payments IF you resign... GENERALLY, but I've personally seen different. You can potentially win a protest through the unemployment office and still get benefits. Being forced to resign in lieu of termination actually qualifies one for unemployment.
However, here's the thing: You have to jump through a lot of hoops to get this. You will be turned down for unemployment, then you must protest and file an appeal. You'll probably be turned down again. Then, you need to appeal that and go to a hearing. You may win that one. I've seen it happen and know a number of people in this situation who have won and received unemployment.
Most of us administrators know this, BUT we do this, or are directed to do this by our bosses, because we know that many people will just assume, as you have, that they absolutely can't get benefits and not even bother applying. Others will just stop after they're turned down once by unemployment. Few will go the full way to an appeals hearing, so the district saves money this way. I can't guarantee that you will get unemployment if you resign, but it could happen.
There was some assistance for COBRA from the government for those laid off. I'm not sure if that's still going with the stimulus ending. I know for a fact that resignations can't get that.
Also, as far as having to "check the box" that says you were terminated, in my district we also have, right next to that box, a question about being asked to resign. It's basically the same thing.
Despite appearances to the contrary, administrators aren't that naive. We look at an employment history, and see that you resigned a position with no other job lined up. Huh? I wonder why...? Well, we can put two-and-two together and I don't really make any distinction between being terminated and being asked to resign, unless there's something almost criminal involved where the individual is removed right away.
I have hired those who have been terminated in another district. I realize however, that the teacher job market is flooded, and any bad mark can be fatal.
My advice is to get as many references as you can, and apply, apply, apply. Extend your commute time to make yourself available to more jobs. Be willing to move if that's an option, and consider adding endorsements, but if you're considering taking more classes, consider retraining into something else other than teaching. The teaching job market is going to be bad for years to come.
I am having a hard time responding to people's posts. I click on Post a Response, and it takes me to a blank page.... Any tips?
by Hollywood
Mar 28, 2011
I work for CPS. From what I understood, there used to be emergency days built into the calendar, but they no longer do that. The two days we got off for snow were paid out of our deferred pay bank that is used for summer break. So now we have to work two extra days in June to make up that amount. It all evens out in the end. I don't understand what...See MoreI work for CPS. From what I understood, there used to be emergency days built into the calendar, but they no longer do that. The two days we got off for snow were paid out of our deferred pay bank that is used for summer break. So now we have to work two extra days in June to make up that amount. It all evens out in the end. I don't understand what your complaint is. You were essentially paid to stay home and watch TV! Or read, do laundry, play with your kids, shovel snow, whatever. The district just wants you to make up that time. You're still getting paid, right? It's not like they want you to work for free. It's certainly better than the office where my mother works, in which no one was paid for the day the office had to be closed during the blizzard.
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How many if any school districts are requiring their teachers to "make up" their Act of God Days? This has become a concern in at least a couple of Illinois School districts. Some superintendents are "requiring" their teachers to make them up at the end of the school year. Any thoughts????? They are already making up the 5 emergency days that were built into the calendar, but, apparently some superintendents think they can "require" the teachers to make up the AOG days, because, "they were paid for sitting at home and watching tv"???? Please let me know what you all think.
by I am a teacher
Mar 29, 2011
We had 5 emergency days built into the calendar, we are making those days up, 2 days at Easter, 3 more added to the end of the year. Unfortunately, this was a bad snow year for us and we had to take 5 additional days that were applied for as Act of God days. After telling a few teachers that we would be done by a certain date, and they go ahead and...See MoreWe had 5 emergency days built into the calendar, we are making those days up, 2 days at Easter, 3 more added to the end of the year. Unfortunately, this was a bad snow year for us and we had to take 5 additional days that were applied for as Act of God days. After telling a few teachers that we would be done by a certain date, and they go ahead and booked vacations, etc., the superintendent has now decided that we should make these days up. The problem: he only wants to involve the teachers, NO support staff, who essentially also got paid for " watching TV, doing whatever at home". This is the first time in 30 years that the district has had to use Act of God days, we put in hours and hours of "extra time", which he admitted that we as teachers do, plus, it is breaking contract, which is the biggest problem we have with it. We won't be allowed to make up the days as we choose, only how the superintendent wants us to, which is to do a book study on a book that he has picked out. The same thing we have had SIP days on for the last year and a half. We asked if we could receive CPDU's for it, he didn't think we could do that. You being a teacher, should know that we all put in way more than the five AOG days that we used, ever, without pay, regcognition, etc. anything at all for it. I spend more money than I care to think about on my classroom as I'm sure we all do. It's the principle of the matter that is so frustrating, and the manner that he has gone about it. We were also told that if we do not attend the State of District meeting in April, that he will remember who was in attendance and we will suffer the repercussions of not attending. He told us he did not care what our contract language said, or what our contract said period. He will make a statement to the public that our teachers and the union does not care about the State of our District, and cares more about making money for doing nothing. He also said we will be negotiating the contract in 9 to 10 months, he will remember what was said and done if we do not go along with his proposal of making them up. But, he also insists that this is not a threat. I'm sorry you can't compare us to the general public, I work hard and go above and beyond my job. Does your mother get paid when she works above and beyond the hours required? Does she spend hundreds of dollars on the things she needs to run her office??
I work for CPS. From what I understood, there used to be emergency days built into the calendar, but they no longer do that. The two days we got off for snow were paid out of our deferred pay bank that is used for summer break. So now we have to work two extra days in June to make up that amount. It all evens out in the end. I don't understand what your complaint is. You were essentially paid to stay home and watch TV! Or read, do laundry, play with your kids, shovel snow, whatever. The district just wants you to make up that time. You're still getting paid, right? It's not like they want you to work for free. It's certainly better than the office where my mother works, in which no one was paid for the day the office had to be closed during the blizzard.
My county (in Georgia) is searching for a new superintendent. Two of the candidates are from Illinois. Does anyone have any comments about Dr. Gloria Davis or Arthur R. Culver?
Thank you so much.
My county (in Georgia) is searching for a new superintendent. Two of the candidates are from Illinois. Does anyone have any comments about Dr. Gloria Davis or Arthur R. Culver?
Thank you so much.
Hello, I know this question has been addressed but I am unable to find the answer. What University of Phoenix courses fulfill the LBS 1 requirements? If you don't have that specific info, which courses does ISBE require? Thank you!
To add the LBSI endorsement to an existing certificate, ISBE basically requires four courses: survey; characteristics (cross-categorical); testing; methods. The survey requirement most likely was satisfied during your undergrad teacher education. I took SP511 and 512 through U of P, at the continuing educator price, which covered assessment and met...See MoreTo add the LBSI endorsement to an existing certificate, ISBE basically requires four courses: survey; characteristics (cross-categorical); testing; methods. The survey requirement most likely was satisfied during your undergrad teacher education. I took SP511 and 512 through U of P, at the continuing educator price, which covered assessment and methods. However, I would have needed two to four courses for characteristics, as U of P courses only cover one disability each. So I took a semester long four-credit class at a local university, which also required 15 observation hours. The latter was a much better learning experience, but U of P enabled me to get the endorsement quickly. I took the test in February -- 125 common sense questions -- and was endorsed a month later. Upcoming tests in April, June, September. The requirements may be changing in 2012, so do not procrastinate.
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