Can I resign from my school psychology position to accept another job now that the school year has begun to accept a position in another school district?
As I more or less intimated in my last post, I am a new high school social studies teacher who is trying to get my foot in the door in Chicagoland. As a part of this, I am looking for ways to meet/network with other teachers and/or administrators in the area and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Is there, for example, a particular PLN that anyone would suggest? Or are there any regular events around here that I should know about? Again, the key, here, is that I am trying to connect with other education professionals IN THIS AREA and any feedback anyone could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks, and have a great weekend.
By way of introduction, my name is Brandon Zurvalec and I am a licensed Illinois educator in secondary social science with a full endorsement in history. At present, I am seeking my first permanent teaching position and just have a couple of questions for now (and please bear with me re: the length of the second one):
(1) Are there any other chatboards/listservs like this one that anyone would recommend? I would naturally prefer ones that feature at least a fair number of Illinois educators, although this isn't necessarily a deal-breaker.
(2) As mentioned above, I am currently seeking my first permanent teaching position. For the most part, I am concentrating my efforts in Lake County as well as the north and south suburbs of Cook County (I would apply to CPS but the residency requirement makes this a non-option for me). As far as results go, I'm just going to tell it like it is: I have been applying to districts for a little over two months and thus far, my efforts haven't gotten me so much as a phone call in response. I'm not panicking, feeling sorry for myself, or anything of the sort; again, I'm just putting the facts on the table and telling it like it is. In any event, given that my applications are not currently bearing fruit, I naturally have to ask myself how said applications could be better. Along these lines, the answer can't pertain to my grades, as I received an "A" in all 24 classes I took pursuant to my teacher training program at Chicago State University. It also can't pertain to my performance in student teaching, as my cooperating teacher gladly wrote me a letter of recommendation and I received an academic grade of "A" in that as well. But as I see the matter, there are at least three things—aside from the fact that I am in a low-demand content area—potentially holding me back:
(a) I only have one endorsement, which is why I plan to become fully-endorsed in geography and political science as well (I have more than 12 credits in each area so it's just a matter of passing the relevant content area exams).
(b) I did not grow up in Chicagoland and am relatively unconnected around here, which is why I am now networking as much as I can, "spreading the word" about my teaching practice, etc.
(c) Aside from my student teaching and some substitute teaching, I don't have any teaching experience, which is why I am now open to the possibility of taking on long-term substitute teaching positions before getting my first permanent position.
Bearing the foregoing in mind, then, does anyone have any advice, suggestions, etc. as to how I can make my applications as strong as they can be? And by all means, if you need any further information from me in order to give an informed response, fire away. Thank you so much for your time and attention and again, I apologize for the length of my second question.
Some of my thoughts on your situation. - Can you coach a sport or an activity? I know in the districts I've been a part of, the social science teachers did some pretty heavy lifting. I doubt in my current job that they would even look at a candidate for a ss teacher that had no coaching or play directing or Speech coaching experience. Some districts are just looking for coaches, so you may want to try starting there. I have acquaintances that have coached 2 or 3 sports just to get their foot in the door to get a teaching job. - Your username has JD at the end. Did you graduate from law school? If so, you may be qualified for advanced pay, which sorry to say, probably makes you too expensive to hire as a new teacher. In some districts, the difference in pay between a Bachelor's and Master's degree pay is considerable. My mom teaches in Dupage county at a pretty sizable district and I think the pay increase is about 20%. Hiring principals might not even look at your application after seeing that. - Like I've already stated, social science is tough. Most teachers that I know that got jobs were doing anything and everything they could to get hired, and it did take a maternity sub job or student teaching experience to get noticed. -Grades don't mean anything really. Letters of rec don't either. I'm a dept. chair and have been heavily involved with hiring 5 teachers in my department and I'm not sure we even looked at either of those.
I don't mean to be discouraging, but it legitimately could take you a year or two to find a full time permanent job teaching history. I would find the first maternity sub, the .5 or .8 job that you can get. I'd also connect with teacher friends you graduated with that have found jobs. They might know where ss teachers are retiring, which could help a lot. You sound very realistic and positive with your thoughts, so keep on pressing on, even if it can be discouraging.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. To answer your two questions:
(1) "Can you coach a sport or an activity?" To put it as simply as I can, I am willing to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to show schools/districts that I am an "all-in" team-player who doesn't even know the meaning of the phrase, "that's not my job." But to get a little more specific, I've consistently checked between 15 - 20 extracurricular items on every Applitrack application I've completed and honestly believe that my experience directly coincides with at least a few of them (e.g. my work as an attorney would make me a great fit for coaching a debate team and/or reading/writing club; my experience in government would come in handy when overseeing student council/government, etc.). And while I've never actually coached basketball before, I could get up-to-speed with that very quickly, as I played a lot when I was younger and would say, with humility, that I know the game fairly well. But again, my main point, here, is that I am willing to do whatever it takes to give schools/districts and their students the kind of all-around teacher that they would need in me, should they decide to bring me on board.
(2) "Your username has JD at the end. Did you graduate from law school?" I obviously more or less already answered this in my answer to your first question but yeah, I graduated from New York Law School in 2006 and ran my own law firm for about three and a half years before deciding to make a career change (long story short, practicing law just didn't give me the professional fulfillment that I desire and teaching has proven to be a much better choice, in this respect). Needless to say, I'm not exactly thrilled about any policy/practice that punishes job candidates for having "too much education" (especially when, as here, we're talking about applying for jobs IN education) but it is what it is and I'll just have to deal with it. And just so there's no ambiguity on this point, I know this issue stems from our deplorable state budget situation and has nothing to do with people like yourself.
So that's basically what I have in the way of answers to your great questions but if you have any further questions and/or comments for me, I would love to hear them (and I'm going to look into all of your suggestions, by the way, including keeping an eye out for basketball coaching positions). Aside from that, let me just leave you with the link to my online educator portfolio, should you or anyone in your school/district be interested in learning more about my qualifications and background: http://www.zurvalec-teacher-portfolio.com. I know I'm new and that the competition is fierce, but I strongly believe that I have what it takes to do this job with excellence and anybody who ultimately brings me on board won't regret it for a second. Thanks again!
mrsdHi, I think it depends on where you live in Illinois. The pay varies widely. As far as living in Illinois, the property taxes are higher the closer you live to Chicago, and they aren't cheap anywhere else. But, housing is much cheaper. I see what my son in NJ paid for his house, and the same house in my area (60 miles west of Chicago) would have co...See MoreHi, I think it depends on where you live in Illinois. The pay varies widely. As far as living in Illinois, the property taxes are higher the closer you live to Chicago, and they aren't cheap anywhere else. But, housing is much cheaper. I see what my son in NJ paid for his house, and the same house in my area (60 miles west of Chicago) would have cost about 1/3 of that! My son and family who live in West Central Illinois have even lower housing costs and taxes. However, the teacher pay is much lower. That being said, the pressures are high, even in my smaller district. Illinois hasn't had a budget passed in over two years, and the state is falling behind in paying the schools. Class sizes are increasing. BUT, I loved my district. There are just under 2000 students in the entire district. They mostly value teachers, depending on the principal and building. Our middle and high schools are both Chromebook one- to-one schools. There is an emphasis on STEM. However, when I sub, I see the stresses and pressures on the teachers in my old school. Many of the younger teachers aren't sure they are going to continue in education. The pressures are worse in the larger districts. If you are looking at smaller districts, be prepared for lower pay and more responsibilities. Good luck with your decision. Karen
On 3/28/17, Sue wrote: > I am an educator and reading specialist and live on > the southern MA/ northern RI border. I have taught in > both states (RI and Mass). Where I live and work, the > pace of life is very fast, there is lots of > materialism and snobbery, the value system is sports > and money. Frankly, we hate it. We cannot be around > this any longer. We are looking to move and Il is > one of the places we are considering. I would love to > hear from educators about your experience teaching in > this state. In my district, everything (including our > evaluations) is linked to test scores and common core > standards. That is probably the case everywhere. > However, I think it is harder to teach in some states > than in others. In your state are the salaries > reasonably competitive (relatively speaking)? How's > the level of respect for teachers? How's the morale? > Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. > thank you!
If anyone is following this post still and wondering about LBSI endorsement, University of St. Francis in Joliet offers LBS I endorsement. You could potentially complete it all in one semester (I did because I was not working - otherwise not sure if it is feasible). Cost is around $2500. Test is really not that difficult. If I remember correctly it is basic common sense things.
In Illinois, school districts typically maintain individual websites with links to their teacher openings and application page. There you will upload a resume and other materials, but also need to complete a very detailed application per district. Many use some form of written statement, so be prepared to write at least one essay. Many districts in the Chicago area use the same company to manage their application website, so some portions of the application are transferable, but others are not, depending on what the specific district wants.
Some county ROEs have a unified school jobs site where all, or most of the county's districts post their jobs and use a unified application. Kane County has a very good website for this.
There is, to my knowledge, not an education version of Linked In where you just post your resume and employers shop for you. Since public school jobs are essentially government jobs, they require a very detailed and bureaucratic hiring process. They may be less formal at Charters and private schools, but I don't know that one...
I was wondering if anyone has an elementary certificate and was able to add a secondary endorsement onto the certificate. I would like to do High school but not if I have to go back and redo the entire program.
I have non-teaching bachelor's degree and I am looking to become a teacher. I would like to be certified for elementary education to be a kindergarten/first grade teacher.
Can I just get the certification or do I need to get a masters? If I can where is a good place to just get certified?
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