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by Wendy Wasleski

Jun 29, 2011

Hello..

Anyone from IL. having a hard time finding a teaching job? I'm a 60 year old teacher with a type 09 in business education. Though, ever since I moved to the state of IL. I have not really had that much luck in finding work.. I have a lot of experience with 7-12 grades, but for some reason I'm not even called in for an interview. If...See More

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sped On 6/29/11, Wendy Wasleski wrote: > Hello.. > > Anyone from IL. having a hard time finding a teaching job? > I'm a 60 year old teacher with a type 09 in business > education. Though, ever since I moved to the state of IL. I > have not really had that much luck in finding work.. I have > a lot of experience with 7-12 grades, but...See More

Jul 1, 2011

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? on ECE certification w/ a masters

by newbie

Jul 10, 2011

I have a B.S. in elem ed and getting my k-9 certification. I am also getting my Masters degree in pre-k/primary education. It does not have student teaching, instead it's an applied professional experience, and was wondering if it would be possible to get my certification for early childhood. Would it work by getting an approval and they tell me wh...See More

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Content area test for ECE and Elem ed

by ava

Jul 10, 2011

Has anyone taken the content area test for early chilhood and the Elem Ed (110)? How different are they from each other? I just applied for k-9 certification and just took the tests for elementary APT (102) and Content (110).

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Signing contract

by cmm89

Jul 20, 2011

I recently accepted a job at a district far from my home. I accepted the job because of the job market. I got another interview the day before I signed my contract with the other district. I am not sure whether I should call and postpone the signing of my contract or can I legally sign the contract and back out. I know that I need to stick with the...See More

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Michael Sign the contract. Yes there are possible repercussions for breaking a contract. Those penalties are rarely pursued. If you do decide to take the risk of breaking the contract, be up front and do it as soon as you decide.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.....

On 7/20/11, cmm89 wrote: > I recently accepted a job at a di...See More

Jul 21, 2011

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sped On 7/20/11, cmm89 wrote: > I am not sure whether I should call and postpone > the signing of my contract or can I legally sign the > contract and back out.

If you sign a teaching contract and then refuse to honor it, the district can request that the state suspend your teaching certificate for a year. This means that you would hav...See More

Jul 21, 2011

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Science apps for students and teachers

by Yes

Jul 21, 2011

So, you want your kid/s to make the highest scores, eh? You want yours to be the top student/s. You want your kid/s to learn and enjoy science because you know that's where the jobs will be, right? OK, listen up.

If you have an iPad and long for your child/ren to get a jumpstart on improved science education (earth, physical, & life s...See More

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early childhood content test 107 vs elem ed 110

by Mandy

Jul 31, 2011

I was wondering how different they are and if the ECE 107 is easier than the 110. If anyone knows that could give me an idea of the differences, I'd appreciate it. I'm fully certified in another state for k-8, and I'm trying to pass the 110 and it's driving me nuts. I'm also in the process of getting my masters in ece and thinking of getting the ec...See More

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High Horse Sorry but the 110 is a joke. If you can't pass that, you shouldn't be teaching. The 110 is soooooooo much easier than the Praxis equivalent. Praxis was 6 hours and involved true content knowledge in EVERY content area PE, art, music included. I barely had the brain power to drive home at the end of it.

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Jul 31, 2011

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Mandy Actually, I did take the PRAXIS content area test (0012) and the Curriculum, Instruction and Assessment (0011). I passed both the fist time. In fact, we only had 2 hours for each test. Plus, I found the PRAXIS to be a lot easier than the IL tests. Although, I did not have problems with the APT. I passed that one. I have talked to teachers out here ...See More

Jul 31, 2011

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Position Open

by Abrown

Aug 2, 2011

Our district is currently looking for an elementary certified P.E. instructor, beginning the 2011-12 school year. Send resume immediately to: TCUSD #3 512 West Spresser Taylorville, IL 62568 c/o Mrs. Anita Brown

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ESL endorsement thru University of Phx online

by trying to make myself for marketable i guess

Aug 4, 2011

Has anyone taken the U of Phx online courses for an ESL endorsement? I know U of Phx has been approved on the ISBE site for middle school classes, but not sure if it's approved for all other endorsement courses. Additionally, does anyone know how the 100 clinical hours work when taking the classes online? Does being a sub at CPS for over a year cou...See More

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mojo On 8/10/11, sped wrote: > On 8/09/11, mo jo wrote: > >> It really isn't a very well regulated requirement. I know 2 >> administrators and 2 teachers who've recently gotten their ESL >> endorsements, and none of them had the required experience with >> ESL students. > > This could be said about nearly all ISBE req...See MoreOn 8/10/11, sped wrote: > On 8/09/11, mo jo wrote: > >> It really isn't a very well regulated requirement. I know 2 >> administrators and 2 teachers who've recently gotten their ESL >> endorsements, and none of them had the required experience with >> ESL students. > > This could be said about nearly all ISBE requirements. The big, bad > "State" that everyone seems to mention as the authority really has > few requirements and little enforcement of the requirements it has. > > Most of the "requirements" are from the universities that provide the > program. They may claim the state requires them, but they are almost > always are institutional requirements. A way around this is an > out-of-state, online provider like U of P. > > Now, the state basically requires that you worked with ELL students. > If you were a gen ed elementary teacher with a high-functioning ELL > student in your room, that counts. BTW, the clinical hours, if > required, are basically observation, not a repeat of student teaching > or anything. > > While it may seem a shame, you have to remember that working teachers > are seeking to add these endorsements. It would be very difficult > (not to mention a disservice to their students) for a working teacher > to leave his/her room for 100 hours to observe in another classroom. > If a teacher teaches 6 hours a day, then that would mean that > teacher would have to miss almost 17 days in a year to meet the 100 > hour requirement. I can tell you that as an administrator, that's > not acceptable. That's 10 percent of the year! > >> It's unfortunate because I think the purpose of the clinical >> hours is that the teacher can practice the strategies, learn to >> identify the difficulties, and conduct the research that is a >> part of the program > > And again the provider of that program can require anything they like > as part of the program, but as far as the state is concerned, the > requirement is met very simply.

The 100 hours are a state requirement, as outlined on the ISBE site under certification requirements, not just a university requirement. However, I do understand that ISBE relies on the provider to insure that endorsement candidates have fulfilled it.

I understand the difficulties of that requirement, but there are options to fulfilling it besides observing in another classroom for 17 days. When I was working on my endorsement, I had a class full of ELLs in kindergarten. Yay for me! My friend who was also in the program had no ESL students. With the approval of our principal, we switched classes for an hour several times a week throughout the program. Another of my friends volunteered in a summer school program to get her hours, while another got her hours through the after-school reading club she taught.

No, it's not a repeat of student teaching, but I found that working with ELLs during my coursework to be valuable to me

Aug 10, 2011

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sped On 8/10/11, mojo wrote: > The 100 hours are a state requirement, as outlined on the ISBE site > under certification requirements, not just a university requirement. > However, I do understand that ISBE relies on the provider to insure > that endorsement candidates have fulfilled it.

The 100 hours are a state requirement OR 3 m...See More

Aug 11, 2011

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Teach or Go back to my old job?

by City Girl

Aug 7, 2011

I am currently living in Chicago and will be receiving my certification to teach elem school later this year. I resigned from my job as an Administrative Mgr but my mgrs have made it clear that I can come back after student teaching. The deal is if I come back they would like me to stay a couple years while they grow their business. It is a very te...See More

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Hart On 8/09/11, City Girl wrote: > Sped, > > Thank you so much for your honest opinion. I really appreciate it > a great deal. I can not afford to be off work for a very long > time while searching for a teaching job. > > It's Chicago - anyone can get a teaching job there any day anytime. > > On 8/09/11, sped wrote: >> ...See More

Sep 27, 2011

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CG Hart,

From what Ive been hearing I dont think it will be that easy. Yes, its Chicago but I also know a lot of displaced teachers looking for jobs.

On 9/27/11, Hart wrote: > On 8/09/11, City Girl wrote: >> Sped, >> >> Thank you so much for your honest opinion. I really appreciate it >> a great deal. I c...See More

Oct 3, 2011

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Speaking of ESL endorsements...

by mojo

Aug 9, 2011

My district has been saying for a year that it will soon be a requirement in Illinois for every teacher to have an ESL endorsement. Has anyone else heard that? Or could it be that teacher prep programs will have to include the ESL coursework in the future??

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Amy On 8/10/11, sped wrote: > On 8/10/11, me too wrote: >> Some friends of mine >> work in the far burbs (Woodstock) and their administrators >> said exactly what you said. I imagine it will become part of >> the education program at any college in which one is earning >> a degree/certification. > > Maybe... > ...See MoreOn 8/10/11, sped wrote: > On 8/10/11, me too wrote: >> Some friends of mine >> work in the far burbs (Woodstock) and their administrators >> said exactly what you said. I imagine it will become part of >> the education program at any college in which one is earning >> a degree/certification. > > Maybe... > > >> For those of us who have earned it >> w/o ESL, I imagine it will be required that we all get the >> endorsement. > > Maybe..., but historically ISBE has grandfathered in all > pre-existing certificates. They did this when they introduced new > special ed and middle school requirements. > > This is why I am looking into beginning the >> courses so I can attain the endorsement in the next year or >> so. > > ISBE is supposed to be out with a new series of changes by > September 1st. I would suggest that you wait until then before > pursuing this course. They may enact changes, so wait and see > what the new requirements will be and when they will go into > effect. For instance, they may par down the requirements for the > ELL endorsement, or you may be able to add it simply by taking a > test. Requiring 6 full, additional courses of every new teacher > sounds like a bit much, so you might actually see those > requirements diminish. > > I honestly haven't heard that rumor that ELL will be required for > all new certificates. Apparently it's already on the books for > ECE, but I hadn't heard that for all certificates. If so, it will > be a shame for teachers. It will take one of the few teaching > sub-fields that actually has some opportunity left (read that as > being able to get a job in it) and glut it with every new grad. >

I am an ECE teacher and have been told that I will be required to have it as of 2014--but only if I wish to continue teaching preschoo. I think that it is ridiculous that after 15 years of teaching that I have to pay to keep my job and 3 months after they leave my classroom it is acceptable that the kindergarten teacher across the hall not need to have an ELL endorsement. So far as we have heard there is no grandfathering in...It would be more acceptable to me that ALL teachers be required to have ELL, rather than singlng out ECE. Especially when the average cost of the endoresement is going to cost me $15000!! At least what I have looked into. Don't even get me started on the fact that the state continues to not even fund the preschool grants, yet now they will require my collegues and I to fork over a ton of money to continue working at a job I love.

Jan 24, 2012

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Laura You can get an ESL or bilingual (if you speak another language) endorsement through American College of Ed for 4 to 6,000, I think.

On 1/24/12, Amy wrote: > On 8/10/11, sped wrote: >> On 8/10/11, me too wrote: >>> Some friends of mine >>> work in the far burbs (Woodstock) and their administrators >>> sai...See MoreYou can get an ESL or bilingual (if you speak another language) endorsement through American College of Ed for 4 to 6,000, I think.

On 1/24/12, Amy wrote: > On 8/10/11, sped wrote: >> On 8/10/11, me too wrote: >>> Some friends of mine >>> work in the far burbs (Woodstock) and their administrators >>> said exactly what you said. I imagine it will become part of >>> the education program at any college in which one is earning >>> a degree/certification. >> >> Maybe... >> >> >>> For those of us who have earned it >>> w/o ESL, I imagine it will be required that we all get the >>> endorsement. >> >> Maybe..., but historically ISBE has grandfathered in all >> pre-existing certificates. They did this when they introduced new >> special ed and middle school requirements. >> >> This is why I am looking into beginning the >>> courses so I can attain the endorsement in the next year or >>> so. >> >> ISBE is supposed to be out with a new series of changes by >> September 1st. I would suggest that you wait until then before >> pursuing this course. They may enact changes, so wait and see >> what the new requirements will be and when they will go into >> effect. For instance, they may par down the requirements for the >> ELL endorsement, or you may be able to add it simply by taking a >> test. Requiring 6 full, additional courses of every new teacher >> sounds like a bit much, so you might actually see those >> requirements diminish. >> >> I honestly haven't heard that rumor that ELL will be required for >> all new certificates. Apparently it's already on the books for >> ECE, but I hadn't heard that for all certificates. If so, it will >> be a shame for teachers. It will take one of the few teaching >> sub-fields that actually has some opportunity left (read that as >> being able to get a job in it) and glut it with every new grad. >> > > > I am an ECE teacher and have been told that I will be required to > have it as of 2014--but only if I wish to continue teaching > preschoo. I think that it is ridiculous that after 15 years of > teaching that I have to pay to keep my job and 3 months after they > leave my classroom it is acceptable that the kindergarten teacher > across the hall not need to have an ELL endorsement. So far as we > have heard there is no grandfathering in...It would be more > acceptable to me that ALL teachers be required to have ELL, rather > than singlng out ECE. Especially when the average cost of the > endoresement is going to cost me $15000!! At least what I have > looked into. Don't even get me started on the fact that the state > continues to not even fund the preschool grants, yet now they will > require my collegues and I to fork over a ton of money to continue > working at a job I love.

Jan 25, 2012

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