I was thinking mostly of the job market for teachers. Yes, you're probably right that schools on the North side are in greater demand for exactly the reasons you stated. I'll have to look at some of the other areas again and see if there would be a good fit somewhere else. Pretty much every school system has challenges with bureacracy as well as challenging kids. (I just came off of teaching 3 years of special ed in a Title I school in a medium-sized, very cliquish school district.)
I have applied using the online system and have tried to also email as many principals as I could find emails for. My inclination was to try paper next. Since seeing your response, I'm thinking that may be the way to go. Thanks for your input.
You're correct that every public school has both bureaucracy (we're government agencies after all), and challenging kids. However, even "rough" suburban schools are the minor leagues compared to CPS. Still, pay is pretty good compared to most suburban districts, and I think you can be at the top of the pay scale after only 8 years or so.
Thanks, ...See MoreI'm short one math class for my math endorsement for middle school. ISBE listed geometry as one of the areas I could complete and I found a geometry course at a nearby community college. I'm hoping this will work, anybody every turn in community college credits before? I left a message with ISBE, but thought this might be faster!
As long as the credits come from a regionally accredited university you're fine.
On 8/16/11, Katie B. wrote: > I'm short one math class for my math endorsement for middle > school. ISBE listed geometry as one of the areas I could > complete and I found a geometry course at a nearby > community college. I'm hoping this will work, anybody > every turn in community college credits before? I left a > message with ISBE, but thought this might be faster! > > Thanks, > > Katie
In addition to this, you need to make sure it ...See MoreOn 8/16/11, Michael wrote: > So you applied for the endorsement already and received a > deficiency statement? If so you can send in a course > description and get the course pre-approved. > > As long as the credits come from a regionally accredited > university you're fine.
In addition to this, you need to make sure it is a college level class, so 100-level or above in the typical numbering system. No Math 050 Applied Geometry or anything like that...
If you have questions about the ESL/Bilingual endorsement, I will be happy to help you. I was the Lead ESL/Bilingual Academic Advisor at NLU for the past 5 1/2 years. I now provide online professional development for CPDU credits.
Typically, HR directors have little to nothing to do with hiring teachers. What typically matters is your certification, not where your degree came from.
Education is known for having a lot of fluff master's degrees, since it usually results in a pay increase. Curriculum and Instruction degrees, for example, abound from a lot of online universities.
If you notice, the OP on this thread only needed certification to remain in her current assignment, not to obtain new employment, so where she takes the classes doesn't much matter, as long as it results in certification.
On 2/18/12, HR suggestion wrote: > Many HR directors will pass on anyone who has done graduate school work > through University of Phoenix. > > > On 2/08/12, Robyn wrote: >> National Louis offers their courses at a reduced tuition rate, as >> does the Illinois Resource Center in Arlington Heights. They run >> around $670.00 per course. >> >> Also, University of Phoenix is approved via ISBE. There is a >> powerpoint presentation at this link: >> [link removed]!
Most likely I have enough years to keep my position, however my union has all kinds of crazy rules about special groups (like ECE and special Ed) and now with Illinois changing RIFF procedure who knows!
Thanks again
On 2/23/12, sped wrote: > Do you mean outside of education? Maybe... > > Typically, HR directors have little to nothing to do with hiring teachers. > What typically matters is your certification, not where your degree came > from. > > Education is known for having a lot of fluff master's degrees, since it > usually results in a pay increase. Curriculum and Instruction degrees, for > example, abound from a lot of online universities. > > If you notice, the OP on this thread only needed certification to remain in > her current assignment, not to obtain new employment, so where she takes > the classes doesn't much matter, as long as it results in certification. > > On 2/18/12, HR suggestion wrote: >> Many HR directors will pass on anyone who has done graduate school work >> through University of Phoenix. >> >> >> On 2/08/12, Robyn wrote: >>> National Louis offers their courses at a reduced tuition rate, as >>> does the Illinois Resource Center in Arlington Heights. They run >>> around $670.00 per course. >>> >>> Also, University of Phoenix is approved via ISBE. There is a >>> powerpoint presentation at this link: >>> [link removed]!
I teach at a public school, and currently have been assigned to teach an extra class. This now is part of my prep minutes. Do I file a grievance, or do I just do it and hope for the best? Looking for advice for anyone who has filed a grievance...
On 8/28/11, Carolyn wrote: ...See MoreIn my district this extra class would generally be given to a teacher who volunteered to do it--and it would result in extra pay.
Do you have a duty that has been dropped in exchange for the extra teaching?
If you are teaching more than the contract states, start by talking with your union rep.
On 8/28/11, Carolyn wrote: > I teach at a public school, and currently have been > assigned to teach an extra class. This now is part of my > prep minutes. Do I file a grievance, or do I just do it and > hope for the best? Looking for advice for anyone who has > filed a grievance...
Talk to your union rep. Typcially, you sho...See MoreOn 8/28/11, Carolyn wrote: > I teach at a public school, and currently have been > assigned to teach an extra class. This now is part of my > prep minutes. Do I file a grievance, or do I just do it and > hope for the best? Looking for advice for anyone who has > filed a grievance...
Talk to your union rep. Typcially, you should be paid an "overload" stipend, which should be detailed in your union contract. The first stop is the union rep.
I'm looking for advice and miracles? I know the market is horrible, but I've been looking for two years now. I'm endorsed in High School Business Ed. and Special Ed. I even considered TA positions but never get called for an interview. I'm working in the corporate world as a temp. I'd sub but it's not consistent enough. Tell me your stories!
>> Look into private >> schools for students with disabilities. They have a lot more >> freedom to teach using common sense methods. They also have >> more access to funds to get materials. > > Some schools have more access to funds and use common sense > methods, and some don't. It just depends on the situation of the > private school.
My first teaching job was in a private out-of-district placement school (not in Illinois). While it wasn't as bad as the school sped described, it was weird. It was mostly for students who were high-functioning LD and/or ED...we had some Aspergers, kids with school anxiety, smart kids with severe behavior issues, etc. The student-teacher ratio was 2-1 and we had several psychologists and social workers. Each kid had group and individual therapy every week. My largest class had 7 kids, with two teachers in each room. We had a lot of time to work closely with the kids, and could differentiate as much as we wanted. The principal and the faculty were great. We all met twice a week to discuss the kids and compare notes on effective practices. That was the good. The bad was that the director was an odd duck. She did the bare minimum for the school...we had no library, very little equipment or supplies, dial-up internet (in 2005!). She would not allow the principal to have a secretary or any kind of assistant, and would not allow her assistant to do anything to help him. She discouraged any kind of activities or cooperative learning; she wanted kids to sit in rows and work quietly in workbooks. She also forbid us to assign any homework, even to just bring in something from home. Students were not allowed to read in class; we had to read everything out loud to them, regardless of their actual reading ability. Fortunately, she was not in the building very often; she spent most of her time on other business interests. But when she did come in, she would make all kinds of changes and punish random students for the slightest thing. Despite her, I really enjoyed the job. But near the end of the year, she started firing people for no reason. So I began quietly sending out resumes to districts and got a job offer over the summer. I found out later that she fired the principal--who had been at the school for 9 years--by sending a Fed Ex letter to his house on Christmas Eve.
Lesley University now offers endorsement/certifications online programs approved in Illinois.
They are in the process of getting the ESL endorsement approved right now as well (great for the Illinois 2014 early childhood requirement).
In the meantime, these are the Illinois approved programs:
Autism Certificate Program Certificate in Teaching Online Certificate in Mathematics Education Certificate in Science in Education Certificate in Instructional Technology Certificate in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL)(In process for full approval).
There are also Master's and Doctorate Programs too.
If you are interested in any of these programs, please email me at: [email removed]
I currently have Type 03 certification (elementary, K-9) with middle school, language arts, social science, and general science endorsements. Does anyone know what it would take for me to get Type 09 certification?
On 9/30/11, sped wrote: > You would have to attend an approved program through an > Illinois university. I'm not sure if you would have to redo > student teaching, but you would have to do the program. They > may (or may not) give you credit for classes that cross over, > like the required intro to special ed course, or maybe certain > philosophy of ed courses. That would be up to the university > in question. > > You would also have to pass the required tests for secondary > content area(s) and APT for 6-12 (unless already taken). > > On 9/30/11, Sandra wrote: >> I currently have Type 03 certification (elementary, K-9) >> with middle school, language arts, social science, and >> general science endorsements. Does anyone know what it >> would take for me to get Type 09 certification?
If you're going to pursue the type-09, yes it does. I suppose there could be some circumstances where this could be sensible. If you are securely employed in a K-12 district now, and would like to transfer to the high school level, it may make sense to pursue the Master's. You'll get paid extra by your district for adding a new degree and/or credit hours, and you may be able to arrange a transfer if an opening comes up.
If you're currently looking for a job, then it doesn't make much sense. You said you have middle school endorsements in LA, Language Arts, and science. Unless your science credits add up to a major in physics or chemistry, I wouldn't bother. There is less need for high school English or Social Studies teachers than there is for elem ed people. Even math and science has a hard time now, but those fields are better than English or Science.
If you're looking for a job and have the money and time to pursue a new degree, my advice is to look outside of education OR, if you absolutely don't want to leave education, look at administration or speech language path. Those are a few of the fields that are actually still hiring.
Your fut...See MoreIllinois is Broke – $140 BILLION in debt – and if you’re a teacher its bad news for you. It’s basic math. There is not enough money to pay benefits to current retirees, much less you. That money being deducted from your pay check each month is going to pay benefits to current retirees. So who will pay for your retirement?
Your future is at risk. Where will you be when the money runs out? Sending your children to college? Preparing to retire? Ask yourself, how can Illinois overcome a staggering $140 BILLION retirement debt?
To save the funds, we will need bigger contributions each year. By 2045, we will need 50 percent of each tax dollar collected in the state. The numbers don’t add up.
Watch this video, then take action. Ask your legislators and Union leaders the RIGHT questions and tell them to “Reform Pensions Now.” Your future is in your hands.
The state, when ran by both Republicans and Democrats alike, DI...See MoreYou're right, Illinois is broke. But it's not broke because we're greedy or given over generous pensions. We paid into our retirement fund (a MUCH higher contribution level already than most states with NO social security benefits) every paycheck. Every check we did our part!
The state, when ran by both Republicans and Democrats alike, DIDN'T contribute! They were supposed to, but they just put it off to another day. The projections were out there as early as the 1980s, but nothing.
Now, we're greedy!?! No, we're the sensible ones who contributed, but it was the state that dropped the ball! There may be "reforms," but we need to fight tooth and nail to avoid being screwed. Oh, I'm sure we'll be screwed, but it's just a matter of how much. We need to fight for every penny we're OWED, and it is a DEBT that the state owes us. Don't come to us and expect us to give and give and give. We're the victims here and we need to fight for our rights!
The truth is, our pensions were middle of the road 30-years ago. Most other workers gave up their rights to a decent retirement, and now are destined to live in poverty in their old age with (maybe) social security and their anemic 401Ks. Now a whole generation has gone by, and everyone with Wal-Mart benefits is attacking us because we might get a $35,000 per year pension and decent health insurance.
They're attacking US because we might, possibly remain lower-middle-class when we retire, instead of living hand-to-mouth. What they should be doing is fighting for THEIR own benefits, trying to make their lives better, not trying to take from some of the last workers in the country to have decent retirement benefits and standard of living into old age.
This nation and it's people are really messed up. I don't know if we can fix it...
On 10/05/11, Illinois Is Broke wrote: > Illinois is Broke – $140 BILLION in debt – and if you’re a > teacher its bad news for you. It’s basic math. There is not > enough money to pay benefits to current retirees, much less > you. That money being deducted from your pay check each > month is going to pay benefits to current retirees. So who > will pay for your retirement? > > Your future is at risk. Where will you be when the money > runs out? Sending your children to college? Preparing to > retire? Ask yourself, how can Illinois overcome a > staggering $140 BILLION retirement debt? > > To save the funds, we will need bigger contributions each > year. By 2045, we will need 50 percent of each tax dollar > collected in the state. The numbers don’t add up. > > Watch this video, then take action. Ask your legislators > and Union leaders the RIGHT questions and tell them to > “Reform Pensions Now.” Your future is in your hands. > > Find us on Facebook: > [link removed]
In respect of the Public Pensions, it is sad to see some groups attacking the state employees/teachers being attacked as if they are in some way responsible. There is a book that came out recently called 'Retirement Heist' written by a Wall Street Journal investigative reporter about the death of pensions in the private sector and how she is starting to see some of it in the public sector as well.
No one knows exactly what the future will hold for teachers' pensions in Illinois. I think one thing is clear: no matter what your profession is, you can't fully rely on your government or your company (or more accurately your politicians and the corporate executives) to provide you with something as important as your retirement.
It is on us to save for ourselves in addition to whatever plan is provided for us. I have made a few videos that can help teachers get on track to start saving for retirement. This is a video I normally only reserve for people who are on my email list but I live in Illinois and really feel for our teachers...the same ones who gave me a wonderful education.
Here is the link: [link removed]
Hope it helps at least one person out there.
Best,
Steve
On 10/05/11, sped wrote: > You're right, Illinois is broke. But it's not broke because > we're greedy or given over generous pensions. We paid into our > retirement fund (a MUCH higher contribution level already than > most states with NO social security benefits) every paycheck. > Every check we did our part! > > The state, when ran by both Republicans and Democrats alike, > DIDN'T contribute! They were supposed to, but they just put it > off to another day. The projections were out there as early as > the 1980s, but nothing. > > Now, we're greedy!?! No, we're the sensible ones who > contributed, but it was the state that dropped the ball! There > may be "reforms," but we need to fight tooth and nail to avoid > being screwed. Oh, I'm sure we'll be screwed, but it's just a > matter of how much. We need to fight for every penny we're > OWED, and it is a DEBT that the state owes us. Don't come to > us and expect us to give and give and give. We're the victims > here and we need to fight for our rights! > > The truth is, our pensions were middle of the road 30-years > ago. Most other workers gave up their rights to a decent > retirement, and now are destined to live in poverty in their > old age with (maybe) social security and their anemic 401Ks. > Now a whole generation has gone by, and everyone with Wal-Mart > benefits is attacking us because we might get a $35,000 per > year pension and decent health insurance. > > They're attacking US because we might, possibly remain > lower-middle-class when we retire, instead of living > hand-to-mouth. What they should be doing is fighting for THEIR > own benefits, trying to make their lives better, not trying to > take from some of the last workers in the country to have > decent retirement benefits and standard of living into old age. > > This nation and it's people are really messed up. I don't know > if we can fix it... > > On 10/05/11, Illinois Is Broke wrote: >> Illinois is Broke – $140 BILLION in debt – and if you’re a >> teacher its bad news for you. It’s basic math. There is not >> enough money to pay benefits to current retirees, much less >> you. That money being deducted from your pay check each >> month is going to pay benefits to current retirees. So who >> will pay for your retirement? >> >> Your future is at risk. Where will you be when the money >> runs out? Sending your children to college? Preparing to >> retire? Ask yourself, how can Illinois overcome a >> staggering $140 BILLION retirement debt? >> >> To save the funds, we will need bigger contributions each >> year. By 2045, we will need 50 percent of each tax dollar >> collected in the state. The numbers don’t add up. >> >> Watch this video, then take action. Ask your legislators >> and Union leaders the RIGHT questions and tell them to >> “Reform Pensions Now.” Your future is in your hands. >> >> Find us on Facebook: >> [link removed]
I was thinking mostly of the job market for teachers. Yes, you're probably right that schools on the North side are in greater demand for exactly the reasons you stated. I'll have to look at some of the other areas again and see if there would be a good fit somewhere else. Pretty m...See More