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by Ugh

Jan 18, 2011

Do any of you teachers who have made the transition from charter to public school employment have any encouraging words for us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is just feeling unbearable lately. The students are amazing... as all children are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How long till this blessed market turns around?

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Ugh? Well, I had an interview today for a position as a parapro. I think I may have gotten it... although it will be about 1/4 the pay I might take the job. It would be an "in" with a wonderful district, and our family is at a place where we can live off my husband's income. So, here's the big question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a parapro in ...See MoreWell, I had an interview today for a position as a parapro. I think I may have gotten it... although it will be about 1/4 the pay I might take the job. It would be an "in" with a wonderful district, and our family is at a place where we can live off my husband's income. So, here's the big question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a parapro in a good district with a possiblility of a teaching job?? Is it worth the pay cut??

Input is so appreciated... people on the outside always have a fresh perspective, thanks!

On 1/22/11, "hang in there" nfm wrote: > On 1/22/11, I hear ya...hand in there wrote: >> I worked in a horrible charter school for years but I kept >> applying every summer. I finally got lucky - it was really luck. >> I think thats what it comes down to sometimes. The one thing >> that the horrible charter school taught me ...if i could last >> years THERE, I can handle almost anything. The "problems" I >> experience at my present school are minuscule in comparison to >> what I put up with for years.. Now, I did have adjustment issues >> in the beginning of my present job. I had to make my >> expectations higher with the students etc. In some ways it was >> like student teaching again because I had never worked with >> experienced teachers and supportive parents in the charter >> school. Teachers were always new because of the high turn over. >> >> So, hang in there- when you get out of this, working in a public >> school will be like a breeze and you will be so appreciative >> because you will know what it is like to work without supplies >> and support.... >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/19/11, SrMays wrote: >>> On 1/18/11, Ugh wrote: >>>> Do any of you teachers who have made the transition from >>>> charter to public school employment have any encouraging >>>> words for us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is just >>>> feeling unbearable lately. The students are amazing... as >>>> all children are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How long >>>> till this blessed market turns around? >>> >>> >>> It's honest work. It takes a lot of determination to work in >>> a charter school. >>> >>> Public school jobs are good, but you will find problems with >>> them as well. The best thing I like about 'public school' is >>> having a union. It is nice having someone to stand up for the >>> teachers. >>> >>> In Michigan any teaching job right now is a treasure. It's an >>> opportunity to practice the craft of teaching. When a >> public >>> school job opens up, you will have experience. >>> >>> My first job teaching was in a charter school in Flint, >>> Michigan. I remember feeling frustrated and tired after only >>> a few months. >>> >>> tenga suerte (good luck

Jan 24, 2011

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take the parapro job If you can afford it for now, I would take the parapro job for sure - it will be a welcomed break and perhaps a new opportunity to teach in a wonderful district!

On 1/24/11, Ugh? wrote: > Well, I had an interview today for a position as a parapro. I think I > may have gotten it... although it will be about 1/4 the pay I might > t...See MoreIf you can afford it for now, I would take the parapro job for sure - it will be a welcomed break and perhaps a new opportunity to teach in a wonderful district!

On 1/24/11, Ugh? wrote: > Well, I had an interview today for a position as a parapro. I think I > may have gotten it... although it will be about 1/4 the pay I might > take the job. It would be an "in" with a wonderful district, and our > family is at a place where we can live off my husband's income. So, > here's the big question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a parapro > in a good district with a possiblility of a teaching job?? Is it worth > the pay cut?? > > Input is so appreciated... people on the outside always have a fresh > perspective, thanks! > > > > > On 1/22/11, "hang in there" nfm wrote: >> On 1/22/11, I hear ya...hand in there wrote: >>> I worked in a horrible charter school for years but I kept >>> applying every summer. I finally got lucky - it was really luck. >>> I think thats what it comes down to sometimes. The one thing >>> that the horrible charter school taught me ...if i could last >>> years THERE, I can handle almost anything. The "problems" I >>> experience at my present school are minuscule in comparison to >>> what I put up with for years.. Now, I did have adjustment issues >>> in the beginning of my present job. I had to make my >>> expectations higher with the students etc. In some ways it was >>> like student teaching again because I had never worked with >>> experienced teachers and supportive parents in the charter >>> school. Teachers were always new because of the high turn over. >>> >>> So, hang in there- when you get out of this, working in a public >>> school will be like a breeze and you will be so appreciative >>> because you will know what it is like to work without supplies >>> and support.... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/19/11, SrMays wrote: >>>> On 1/18/11, Ugh wrote: >>>>> Do any of you teachers who have made the transition from >>>>> charter to public school employment have any encouraging >>>>> words for us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is just >>>>> feeling unbearable lately. The students are amazing... as >>>>> all children are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How long >>>>> till this blessed market turns around? >>>> >>>> >>>> It's honest work. It takes a lot of determination to work in >>>> a charter school. >>>> >>>> Public school jobs are good, but you will find problems with >>>> them as well. The best thing I like about 'public school' is >>>> having a union. It is nice having someone to stand up for the >>>> teachers. >>>> >>>> In Michigan any teaching job right now is a treasure. It's an >>>> opportunity to practice the craft of teaching. When a >>> public >>>> school job opens up, you will have experience. >>>> >>>> My first job teaching was in a charter school in Flint, >>>> Michigan. I remember feeling frustrated and tired after only >>>> a few months. >>>> >>>> tenga suerte (good luck

Jan 25, 2011

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Hopeful Ugh! Thanks so much for your advice and help!

Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt SOOO good for the HR person to say, "welcome to this PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT (even though it's a para position... I'm filled with so much hope!) The people are so nice already and things function so much amazingly better... I can't wait to get st...See MoreThanks so much for your advice and help!

Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt SOOO good for the HR person to say, "welcome to this PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT (even though it's a para position... I'm filled with so much hope!) The people are so nice already and things function so much amazingly better... I can't wait to get started and make a difference for some kiddos! Starting in a charter makes you really appreciate the move to a district... that's for sure.

Thanks for being my sounding board!!

On 1/25/11, take the parapro job wrote: > If you can afford it for now, I would take the parapro job for sure - it > will be a welcomed break and perhaps a new opportunity to teach in a > wonderful district! > > > On 1/24/11, Ugh? wrote: >> Well, I had an interview today for a position as a parapro. I think I >> may have gotten it... although it will be about 1/4 the pay I might >> take the job. It would be an "in" with a wonderful district, and our >> family is at a place where we can live off my husband's income. So, >> here's the big question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a parapro >> in a good district with a possiblility of a teaching job?? Is it worth >> the pay cut?? >> >> Input is so appreciated... people on the outside always have a fresh >> perspective, thanks! >> >> >> >> >> On 1/22/11, "hang in there" nfm wrote: >>> On 1/22/11, I hear ya...hand in there wrote: >>>> I worked in a horrible charter school for years but I kept >>>> applying every summer. I finally got lucky - it was really luck. >>>> I think thats what it comes down to sometimes. The one thing >>>> that the horrible charter school taught me ...if i could last >>>> years THERE, I can handle almost anything. The "problems" I >>>> experience at my present school are minuscule in comparison to >>>> what I put up with for years.. Now, I did have adjustment issues >>>> in the beginning of my present job. I had to make my >>>> expectations higher with the students etc. In some ways it was >>>> like student teaching again because I had never worked with >>>> experienced teachers and supportive parents in the charter >>>> school. Teachers were always new because of the high turn over. >>>> >>>> So, hang in there- when you get out of this, working in a public >>>> school will be like a breeze and you will be so appreciative >>>> because you will know what it is like to work without supplies >>>> and support.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/19/11, SrMays wrote: >>>>> On 1/18/11, Ugh wrote: >>>>>> Do any of you teachers who have made the transition from >>>>>> charter to public school employment have any encouraging >>>>>> words for us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is just >>>>>> feeling unbearable lately. The students are amazing... as >>>>>> all children are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How long >>>>>> till this blessed market turns around? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's honest work. It takes a lot of determination to work in >>>>> a charter school. >>>>> >>>>> Public school jobs are good, but you will find problems with >>>>> them as well. The best thing I like about 'public school' is >>>>> having a union. It is nice having someone to stand up for the >>>>> teachers. >>>>> >>>>> In Michigan any teaching job right now is a treasure. It's an >>>>> opportunity to practice the craft of teaching. When a >>>> public >>>>> school job opens up, you will have experience. >>>>> >>>>> My first job teaching was in a charter school in Flint, >>>>> Michigan. I remember feeling frustrated and tired after only >>>>> a few months. >>>>> >>>>> tenga suerte (good luck

Jan 28, 2011

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SeÃ±or Mays Congrads! Best of luck!!

On 1/28/11, Hopeful Ugh! wrote: > Thanks so much for your advice and help! > > Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt > SOOO good for the HR person to say, "welcome to > this PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT (even though it's a para > position... I'm filled with so much hope!) The people &g...See MoreCongrads! Best of luck!!

On 1/28/11, Hopeful Ugh! wrote: > Thanks so much for your advice and help! > > Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt > SOOO good for the HR person to say, "welcome to > this PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT (even though it's a para > position... I'm filled with so much hope!) The people > are so nice already and things function so much > amazingly better... I can't wait to get started and > make a difference for some kiddos! Starting in a > charter makes you really appreciate the move to a > district... that's for sure. > > Thanks for being my sounding board!! > > > > On 1/25/11, take the parapro job wrote: >> If you can afford it for now, I would take the >> parapro job for sure - it will be a welcomed break >> and perhaps a new opportunity to teach in a wonderful >> district! >> >> >> On 1/24/11, Ugh? wrote: >>> Well, I had an interview today for a position as a >>> parapro. I think I may have gotten it... although >>> it will be about 1/4 the pay I might take the job. >>> It would be an "in" with a wonderful >>> district, and our family is at a place where we can >>> live off my husband's income. So, here's the big >>> question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a >>> parapro in a good district with a possiblility of a >>> teaching job?? Is it worth the pay cut?? >>> >>> Input is so appreciated... people on the outside >>> always have a fresh perspective, thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/22/11, "hang in there" nfm wrote: >>>> On 1/22/11, I hear ya...hand in there wrote: >>>>> I worked in a horrible charter school for years >>>>> but I kept applying every summer. I finally got >>>>> lucky - it was really luck. I think thats what >>>>> it comes down to sometimes. The one thing that >>>>> the horrible charter school taught me ...if i >>>>> could last years THERE, I can handle almost >>>>> anything. The "problems" I experience >>>>> at my present school are minuscule in >>>>> comparison to what I put up with for years.. >>>>> Now, I did have adjustment issues in the >>>>> beginning of my present job. I had to make my >>>>> expectations higher with the students etc. In >>>>> some ways it was like student teaching again >>>>> because I had never worked with experienced >>>>> teachers and supportive parents in the charter >>>>> school. Teachers were always new because of the >>>>> high turn over. >>>>> >>>>> So, hang in there- when you get out of this, >>>>> working in a public school will be like a >>>>> breeze and you will be so appreciative because >>>>> you will know what it is like to work without >>>>> supplies and support.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/19/11, SrMays wrote: >>>>>> On 1/18/11, Ugh wrote: >>>>>>> Do any of you teachers who have made the >>>>>>> transition from charter to public school >>>>>>> employment have any encouraging words for >>>>>>> us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is >>>>>>> just feeling unbearable lately. The >>>>>>> students are amazing... as all children >>>>>>> are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How >>>>>>> long till this blessed market turns around? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's honest work. It takes a lot of >>>>>> determination to work in a charter school. >>>>>> >>>>>> Public school jobs are good, but you will >>>>>> find problems with them as well. The best >>>>>> thing I like about 'public school' is having >>>>>> a union. It is nice having someone to stand >>>>>> up for the teachers. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Michigan any teaching job right now is a >>>>>> treasure. It's an opportunity to practice the >>>>>> craft of teaching. When a >>>>> public >>>>>> school job opens up, you will have experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> My first job teaching was in a charter school >>>>>> in Flint, Michigan. I remember feeling >>>>>> frustrated and tired after only a few months. >>>>>> >>>>>> tenga suerte (good luck

Jan 29, 2011

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I love public schools Hurray!!! You made a great choice and you will be a lot happier for it!!!

Congrads!

On 1/29/11, SeÃ±or Mays wrote: > > Congrads! Best of luck!! > > On 1/28/11, Hopeful Ugh! wrote: >> Thanks so much for your advice and help! >> >> Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt >> SOO...See MoreHurray!!! You made a great choice and you will be a lot happier for it!!!

Congrads!

On 1/29/11, SeÃ±or Mays wrote: > > Congrads! Best of luck!! > > On 1/28/11, Hopeful Ugh! wrote: >> Thanks so much for your advice and help! >> >> Well, I got my hiring packet/ID badge today... It felt >> SOOO good for the HR person to say, "welcome to >> this PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT (even though it's a para >> position... I'm filled with so much hope!) The people >> are so nice already and things function so much >> amazingly better... I can't wait to get started and >> make a difference for some kiddos! Starting in a >> charter makes you really appreciate the move to a >> district... that's for sure. >> >> Thanks for being my sounding board!! >> >> >> >> On 1/25/11, take the parapro job wrote: >>> If you can afford it for now, I would take the >>> parapro job for sure - it will be a welcomed break >>> and perhaps a new opportunity to teach in a wonderful >>> district! >>> >>> >>> On 1/24/11, Ugh? wrote: >>>> Well, I had an interview today for a position as a >>>> parapro. I think I may have gotten it... although >>>> it will be about 1/4 the pay I might take the job. >>>> It would be an "in" with a wonderful >>>> district, and our family is at a place where we can >>>> live off my husband's income. So, here's the big >>>> question: stay in an awful charter or go to be a >>>> parapro in a good district with a possiblility of a >>>> teaching job?? Is it worth the pay cut?? >>>> >>>> Input is so appreciated... people on the outside >>>> always have a fresh perspective, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/22/11, "hang in there" nfm wrote: >>>>> On 1/22/11, I hear ya...hand in there wrote: >>>>>> I worked in a horrible charter school for years >>>>>> but I kept applying every summer. I finally got >>>>>> lucky - it was really luck. I think thats what >>>>>> it comes down to sometimes. The one thing that >>>>>> the horrible charter school taught me ...if i >>>>>> could last years THERE, I can handle almost >>>>>> anything. The "problems" I experience >>>>>> at my present school are minuscule in >>>>>> comparison to what I put up with for years.. >>>>>> Now, I did have adjustment issues in the >>>>>> beginning of my present job. I had to make my >>>>>> expectations higher with the students etc. In >>>>>> some ways it was like student teaching again >>>>>> because I had never worked with experienced >>>>>> teachers and supportive parents in the charter >>>>>> school. Teachers were always new because of the >>>>>> high turn over. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, hang in there- when you get out of this, >>>>>> working in a public school will be like a >>>>>> breeze and you will be so appreciative because >>>>>> you will know what it is like to work without >>>>>> supplies and support.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/19/11, SrMays wrote: >>>>>>> On 1/18/11, Ugh wrote: >>>>>>>> Do any of you teachers who have made the >>>>>>>> transition from charter to public school >>>>>>>> employment have any encouraging words for >>>>>>>> us still stuck in a charter school? Mine is >>>>>>>> just feeling unbearable lately. The >>>>>>>> students are amazing... as all children >>>>>>>> are... but the admin is sooo... ugh. How >>>>>>>> long till this blessed market turns around? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's honest work. It takes a lot of >>>>>>> determination to work in a charter school. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Public school jobs are good, but you will >>>>>>> find problems with them as well. The best >>>>>>> thing I like about 'public school' is having >>>>>>> a union. It is nice having someone to stand >>>>>>> up for the teachers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Michigan any teaching job right now is a >>>>>>> treasure. It's an opportunity to practice the >>>>>>> craft of teaching. When a >>>>>> public >>>>>>> school job opens up, you will have experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first job teaching was in a charter school >>>>>>> in Flint, Michigan. I remember feeling >>>>>>> frustrated and tired after only a few months. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tenga suerte (good luck

Jan 29, 2011

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