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Your State has got to be the closest place to hell on earth

by PsyGuy

Sep 22, 2011

Have you read the following article???

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How could monsters like you be allowed to teach or even be considered part of the human race is beyond me???

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PsyGuy I mean they checked a NINE year old girl out like a used library book, to a serial pedo rapist!!!!!

Doesnt that resonate with you that something is wrong in your states approach to training teachers?

On 9/28/11, April wrote: > On 9/22/11, PsyGuy wrote: >> Have you read the following article??? >> >> [link re...See More

Sep 29, 2011

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Victoria I don't normally respond to posts like these because they are obviously meant to be inflammatory. But I also don't want people thinking we actually agree with posts like these.

First, this is an awful thing that happened and I hope all of those that were negligent face the most serious consequences possible.

Second, this is one ...See More

Oct 2, 2011

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PsyGuy Yes really this isnt a quantity issue but a quality issue, when the profession in your state fails a child so utterly and with such depraved in distance yes it reflects on your states entire educational system, and this incident was in the news.

Well if teachers dont regulate the signing out process, do you not train your staff??? What ab...See MoreYes really this isnt a quantity issue but a quality issue, when the profession in your state fails a child so utterly and with such depraved in distance yes it reflects on your states entire educational system, and this incident was in the news.

Well if teachers dont regulate the signing out process, do you not train your staff??? What about oh who are those leades responsible for the safety and education at a school who usually have their office in the front of the school, what are they called oh yeah PRINCIPALS and ASSISTANT/VICE PRINCIPALS. Do you have any of those? Are they Trained? Do they not go through Professional Education?

This isnt an issue of a single school its endemic of a larger failure in your states training and education of those in the education system.

On 10/02/11, Victoria wrote: > I don't normally respond to posts like these because they are > obviously meant to be inflammatory. But I also don't want people > thinking we actually agree with posts like these. > > First, this is an awful thing that happened and I hope all of those > that were negligent face the most serious consequences possible. > > Second, this is one school, one incident in our state and you have > generalized that all schools in Mississippi do this. Really? Seems > like that would be nation-wide news. > > Third, teachers do not normally check students out. So your > conclusion that something is wrong in how teachers are trained does > not even make sense. It is the office personnel (secretary usually) > that does this job. > > I definitely agree, they should all be checking id and making sure > those people are on the lists. I think that's true of every school > in every state. Tragedies like this should never, ever happen. > > But please do not assume that all schools in Mississippi are > negligent because one is. > > > On 9/29/11, PsyGuy wrote: >> I mean they checked a NINE year old girl out like a used library >> book, to a serial pedo rapist!!!!! >> >> Doesnt that resonate with you that something is wrong in your >> states approach to training teachers? >> >> >> On 9/28/11, April wrote: >>> On 9/22/11, PsyGuy wrote: >>>> Have you read the following article??? >>>> >>>> [link removed] !

Oct 4, 2011

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ona On 10/04/11, PsyGuy wrote: > Yes really this isnt a quantity issue but a quality issue, when the > profession in your state fails a child so utterly and with such > depraved in distance yes it reflects on your states entire educational > system, and this incident was in the news. > > Well if teachers dont regulate the signing out ...See MoreOn 10/04/11, PsyGuy wrote: > Yes really this isnt a quantity issue but a quality issue, when the > profession in your state fails a child so utterly and with such > depraved in distance yes it reflects on your states entire educational > system, and this incident was in the news. > > Well if teachers dont regulate the signing out process, do you not > train your staff??? What about oh who are those leades responsible for > the safety and education at a school who usually have their office in > the front of the school, what are they called oh yeah PRINCIPALS and > ASSISTANT/VICE PRINCIPALS. Do you have any of those? Are they Trained? > Do they not go through Professional Education? > > This isnt an issue of a single school its endemic of a larger failure > in your states training and education of those in the education system. > > > On 10/02/11, Victoria wrote: >> I don't normally respond to posts like these because they are >> obviously meant to be inflammatory. But I also don't want people >> thinking we actually agree with posts like these. >> >> First, this is an awful thing that happened and I hope all of those >> that were negligent face the most serious consequences possible. >> >> Second, this is one school, one incident in our state and you have >> generalized that all schools in Mississippi do this. Really? Seems >> like that would be nation-wide news. >> >> Third, teachers do not normally check students out. So your >> conclusion that something is wrong in how teachers are trained does >> not even make sense. It is the office personnel (secretary usually) >> that does this job. >> >> I definitely agree, they should all be checking id and making sure >> those people are on the lists. I think that's true of every school >> in every state. Tragedies like this should never, ever happen. >> >> But please do not assume that all schools in Mississippi are >> negligent because one is. >> >> >> On 9/29/11, PsyGuy wrote: >>> I mean they checked a NINE year old girl out like a used library >>> book, to a serial pedo rapist!!!!! >>> >>> Doesnt that resonate with you that something is wrong in your >>> states approach to training teachers? >>> >>> >>> On 9/28/11, April wrote: >>>> On 9/22/11, PsyGuy wrote: >>>>> Have you read the following article??? >>>>> >>>>> [link removed] !

I had not heard of this story before. This tragedy should send red flags throughout the country; however I think your tactic of hostility on a teacher's blog is misguided. I'm not even from Mississippi, but I couldn't help but want to defend their teachers from your attack. Another poster did a great job explaining to you the procedure of checking-out children from a school, but I'm compelled to elaborate further.

Teachers generally do very little in the office on a daily basis, other than sign in and check their mailboxes in the mornings. Our job is to teach children in our classrooms. We have never, ever been in charge of training the staff! A matter of fact, in my school system the principal or vice principal are not totally responsible for training secretaries, if at all. Most secretaries do receive some training from a district administrator at the School Board's District's Office. It is doubtful even still, that the district administrator in charge of secretaries is trained as an educator. My guess is that his or her background is business.

Now that being said, I agree that there appears to be a major break down in the checking-out procedure at that school. I don't know if it was negligence on the secretary's part, or the principal's lack of administrative directive, or a lack of an adequate school system's policy, or the lack of security procedures, or a lack of a child protection law or whatever. I think it’s prudent of us all not to place judgment or blame without knowing all of the details. As with all human interactions, it can be complicated. I am a teacher, and have limited knowledge of organizational management, but if I had to guess a solution, I would say it is simply at the school system’s superintendant's door.

It is clear that you are highly motivated, even passionate enough to alert people of this tragedy. In my opinion, it would be far more productive for the future safety of children, if you moved beyond a teacher’s blog, and instead become a problem solver. If lack of training or human error is the cause of this tragedy, then it could happen anywhere in the world, not just in Mississippi. Perhaps you should think of ways to rectify those issues that caused this tragedy.

If you are concerned and motivated enough to rectify this problem, may I suggest some ideas that may help you get started: Change your mode of thinking in order to become a change agent. Research the current procedures that are locally used in your city's school system. If you see failings in that system, research how to change it. There are probably books written about this very topic. Now days there are probably computer programs that can assist school systems with this effort. I believe my school office uses one. I will now definitely inquire about its effectiveness. If they have a fool proof system, research how to best let other systems know about it.

There are many ways to have an effect on school system's procedures from within and from without the school system. Sometimes, all it takes is to talk to the right person at the school board. I would start with the person who supervises or trains the secretaries. If that doesn't work, then you could talk to, e-mail, or send letters to one or all of the following: school administrators, school board members, the superintendent, the mayor, political types, the PTO or PTA, and local newspaper. If you are successful locally, and state-wide then you can address the issues regionally or on a national level. If you are in need of support for a major organized effort, you could approach church leaders, local college professors, politicians, and/or teacher organizations.

Good luck and God's speed.

Oct 14, 2011

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Don't let PsyGuy get you too worked up. Don't let PsyGuy gey you too worked up. He is a really sharp guy with a few twisted quirks. Check the Texas site. He posts to make you think but sometimes he goes overboard. I enjoy his posts because I think I understand him somewhat. Just understand he is one who likes to show he is smarter than you. And he may be! Good luck.

On 10/14/11...See MoreDon't let PsyGuy gey you too worked up. He is a really sharp guy with a few twisted quirks. Check the Texas site. He posts to make you think but sometimes he goes overboard. I enjoy his posts because I think I understand him somewhat. Just understand he is one who likes to show he is smarter than you. And he may be! Good luck.

On 10/14/11, ona wrote: > On 10/04/11, PsyGuy wrote: >> Yes really this isnt a quantity issue but a quality issue, when the >> profession in your state fails a child so utterly and with such >> depraved in distance yes it reflects on your states entire educational >> system, and this incident was in the news. >> >> Well if teachers dont regulate the signing out process, do you not >> train your staff??? What about oh who are those leades responsible for >> the safety and education at a school who usually have their > office in >> the front of the school, what are they called oh yeah PRINCIPALS and >> ASSISTANT/VICE PRINCIPALS. Do you have any of those? Are they Trained? >> Do they not go through Professional Education? >> >> This isnt an issue of a single school its endemic of a larger failure >> in your states training and education of those in the education system. >> >> >> On 10/02/11, Victoria wrote: >>> I don't normally respond to posts like these because they are >>> obviously meant to be inflammatory. But I also don't want people >>> thinking we actually agree with posts like these. >>> >>> First, this is an awful thing that happened and I hope all of those >>> that were negligent face the most serious consequences possible. >>> >>> Second, this is one school, one incident in our state and you have >>> generalized that all schools in Mississippi do this. Really? Seems >>> like that would be nation-wide news. >>> >>> Third, teachers do not normally check students out. So your >>> conclusion that something is wrong in how teachers are trained does >>> not even make sense. It is the office personnel (secretary usually) >>> that does this job. >>> >>> I definitely agree, they should all be checking id and making sure >>> those people are on the lists. I think that's true of every school >>> in every state. Tragedies like this should never, ever happen. >>> >>> But please do not assume that all schools in Mississippi are >>> negligent because one is. >>> >>> >>> On 9/29/11, PsyGuy wrote: >>>> I mean they checked a NINE year old girl out like a used library >>>> book, to a serial pedo rapist!!!!! >>>> >>>> Doesnt that resonate with you that something is wrong in your >>>> states approach to training teachers? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/28/11, April wrote: >>>>> On 9/22/11, PsyGuy wrote: >>>>>> Have you read the following article??? >>>>>> >>>>>> [link removed].

Feb 28, 2012

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