Hi! I am brand new to this forum! and I was wondering if I could get some feedback on the environment of special education in North Carolina? I know the dismal state of education in general in N.C. but does anyone here have some advice for someone wanting to teach mild/moderate elementary school? Thank you ahead of time for any and all advice!
Also, special ed teachers might be 5&37; or 10&37; of the teachers in a high school, but reliably make up 25&37; of the admin.
If you have a special ed background, you will almost certainly get hired as an admin as soon as you are qualified.
The good news from my perspective is that you probably are better off as a school if you have at least one admin who is familiar with the way special needs education works. Like A said, an important part of this is the legal issues, the paperwork, etc. An admin who has experience with special needs students probably improves the environment of understanding at a school.
On the other hand, I have recently been observed/evaluated by someone who has never taught a class bigger than 6 children. The observation went well for me, but this admin has only 4 years of teaching experience, and that experience was with special needs students. Can't really spell. Doesn't really seem to ever hang out near the special ed classroom (which is right next to my classroom). So, I am not sure if there was a lot of competition for the job this admin landed. This is a tough problem to unravel: this admin apparently has no idea what I am doing in my class. On the flip side, I would have no idea how to assess the effectiveness of the special needs faculty.
The students who are in service clubs at our school have activities which try to include the special needs students as much as possible. It helps that the lead teacher in our school's special needs dept is good at her job, super-involved in the school, laid-back, and cheery.
Elementary school specifically? It seems analogous to my situation with the older students from what I hear. Much depends on the principal at your school, the school district, etc. Commenter A suggested that there are ample resources for special ed, and I would agree. Most classroom funding seems to be driven my wants & needs, but funding for special needs seems to be driven and guaranteed by legalities and mandates.
I have never had a bad experience with special needs teachers, so either I am lucky or someone has been doing a good job of hiring. Most of the certified (teacher) job openings in our district seem to be for special needs, and these jobs stay open for weeks or even months. Therefore I assume that the pool of applicants for these positions is smaller than that for PE jobs - jobs which seem to get filled immediately. Either that, or like "A" said, people just burn out at every school but mine.
Those thoughts are based on my experiences, so others may have different views.
A friend of mine is a Principal in Loudoun County, Virginia(30 miles NW of Washington, DC/ nations wealthiest county) and they will be in the Greensboro Area recruiting teachers March 9th and 10th at the Hampton Inn, Greensboro Airport.
"SO I'm here at the state board mtg, listening to discussion on standard 6. DPI recommends removing standard 6 but to continue collecting testing and ASW data. Recommends giving to districts student artifacts (testing data) but that these not be used as indicators of employment.
Wait for it...
So instead of standard 6, there would be a recommendation of additional indicators about the impact of "student growth"...built into all 5 other standards.
Yes, embed student growth into the entire instrument...to help evaluators determine if teachers are meeting the standards. But wait, they also said this would not be punitive...um...
Anyone else see how this could be truly problematic??
Your growth score, based on a VAM calculation (which is akin to voodoo) would now not just be represented in one standard but in all of them!!
It would seem that in the long run the recommendation is to use a specious VAM measure to virally infect the entire evaluation instrument.
SO much for restricting testing...think that's gonna happen??"
Pretty much. I retired from a very rural school system. Many there, are still fighting the war between the states. Seriously. Most teachers are my middle school were hard core republicans; almost all of the science teachers were climate change deniers too.
Most irritation.
Yes, they got what they voted for, but it sure isn't what the children of north carolina needed
They don't care about kids- not really. Now, they do care about THEIR kids, mind you. Look- when you have a teaching cadre that overwhelmingly believes the Earth is 6000 years old, and is supporting Trump (just look at SC tonight)- and Cruz- what hope is there? Maybe their invisible Bronze Age sky daddy will swoop down and rapture them all up...we can only hope!
> When the state final exam is 20&37; of course grade and their > exam grade is a 50 and we are to record a passing > for the course. > Oh, and I really appreciate that a 40 question multiple choice > test is used to assess a course for which I planned and > executed 8000+ minutes of instruction and monitoring of > student learning. Just slap down a number based on that one > test to indicate my my effectiveness. And the content on the > exam from year to year varies too, but no feedback to me on > areas in which "i" was deficient. > Let me project that my EVAAS score for this year will follow the > downward trend. I am sure it is my lack of skill that is the > reason. > Standard 6 - what a farce.
I agree. We count the exam as 25&37; of the final grade. I very rarely had anyone score below a 70 but this year I had several. I'm convinced it is only because the bar was lowered and the kids are good at figuring out the minimum effort they need to put forth to get by. I wasn't aware the lowest grade one could get is a 50!! I did have a physical science student get 13/40 questions correct and the final score was a 62. In physics 14/40 garnered a 63. That's ridiculous, and the students know it!
High school > I agree. We count the exam as 25&37; of the final grade. I > very rarely had anyone score below a 70 but this year I > had several. I'm convinced it is only because the bar was > lowered and the kids are good at figuring out the minimum > effort they need to put forth to get by. I wasn't aware > the lowes...See More > I agree. We count the exam as 25&37; of the final grade. I > very rarely had anyone score below a 70 but this year I > had several. I'm convinced it is only because the bar was > lowered and the kids are good at figuring out the minimum > effort they need to put forth to get by. I wasn't aware > the lowest grade one could get is a 50!! I did have a > physical science student get 13/40 questions correct and > the final score was a 62. In physics 14/40 garnered a 63. > That's ridiculous, and the students know it! The &37; of exam to final grade and the minimal grade of 50&37; is an LEA decision I think. A colleague teaching an EOC had 5 kids who she had at A or B choose to just breeze through the exam and get the 50&37;. They honestly did not care and really are not bad kids (active in ROTC and sports), but grades are not important to them and telling them that it affects the school grade or the teacher's evaluation would not matter either. And these are kids who I believe like the teacher and really do not have a gripe with the school. Lower the bar and this is what we get, but wait, our graduation rate will magically go up! I have had fewer kids fail this year thanks to 60&37; = passing.
Board members are scheduled to meet on Friday at 3 p.m. to vote on changes in store for 2017, including some rises in costs for members.
But the trustees will not take on changes proposed for 2018 that could have eliminated the "80/20" coverage plan – a basic form of health insurance used by roughly 280,000 workers.
"Any further benefit changes beyond 2017, including the discussion regarding phasing out of the 80/20 Plan, will be delayed until a later date," said a news release issued by Brad Young, a spokesman for the State Treasurer's Office.
This Friday, the NC State Health Plan Board of Trustees is considering eliminating the 80/20 health insurance plan currently available to all NC teachers and state employees (for a fee). This would force them to take the more costly 70/30 plan (and also eliminate coverage for spouses). This change would increase healthcare costs significantly for our teachers and state employees, making NC’s state health plan the worst in the nation. I have located contact information of the current members of the Board of Trustees. Please email them TODAY and tell them not to cut the health benefits of teachers and state employees!
Can teachers join SEANC? Are any of you members. I have no interest in NCAE. Their dues are high and `I can't see a thing they have done for us. I heard legislators are more willing to work with SEANC. Do they let teachers join? I really don't see anything clear about that on their website. Do you belong?
I think your anger with NCAE is misplaced. They have been "busted" by an anti-teacher legislature. As long as SEANC is weak and submissive (which they have been), they have been left alone and pretty much ignored by the legislature. They don't have a long history of major accomplishments.
Direct your anger at your state legislature.
On 2/02/16, explorer wrote: > Well- that's good info to know..but I also see they are > fighting hard to retain our state benefits. It looks like if > someone doesn't fight our health care is going down the > toilet. NCAE seems powerless and ineffective. I like the > SEANC agenda regarding our benefits. Glad they indicted the > former director - can't fault the whole organization just for > his behavior. We as teachers get that treatment all the time. > I surely don't want to return it. Just exploring...not sure - > reading and listening. I just know someone has to go to bat > for our future as state employees. > > On 2/01/16, clc wrote: >> The former executive director of the SEANC was charged in >> 2015 with spending almost half a million dollars of SEANC >> funds for personal use. I'm not sure if the trial has >> happened yet. >> >> SEANC was angry with NCAE for a number of years because >> NCAE's teacher members were receiving raises while other >> state employees were being ignored. It was a legitimate >> grievance. SEANC played ball with the General Assembly >> when the NCAE was being critical of them. THE GA punished >> NCAE for their criticism by forbidding the automatic >> withdrawal of NCAE dues from teacher paychecks. SEANC >> members (non teacher state employees),however, could still >> have their dues automatically taken from their paychecks. >> The GA also offered professional liability insurance to NC >> teachers since NCAE had provided that as a benefit of >> joining. >> >> This was a pretty successful attempt by the GA to break the >> back of the closest thing NC had to a pro-teacher lobby. >> In effect, your Republican legislators did their version of >> union busting-although of course there are no public unions >> in NC by law. SEANC stood by and watched and hoped the GA >> would throw them some bones. >> >> I don't know if SEANC has teacher members. They'll >> probably take your money. >> >> On 2/01/16, explorer wrote: >>> Can teachers join SEANC? Are any of you members. I have >>> no interest in NCAE. Their dues are high and `I can't see >>> a thing they have done for us. I heard legislators are >>> more willing to work with SEANC. Do they let teachers >>> join? I really don't see anything clear about that on >>> their website. Do you belong?
On 2/02/16, clc wrote: > I'm a retired teacher. I remember when NCAE, working with > a more teacher friendly legislature, was able to > substantially improve the salaries and conditions of > teachers in NC. They fought loudly and actively for those > benefits and salaries that > you want. The more conservative legislature made it their > agenda to eviserate NCAE. SEANC kowtowed to the GA and > were not supportive of NCAE in any way. It is true that > salaries for non-teacher NC employees had not improved in > any major way for a number of years and SEANC members > were ticked off that teacher salaries had increased so > much more than theirs had. > > I think your anger with NCAE is misplaced. They have been > "busted" by an anti-teacher legislature. As long as SEANC > is weak and submissive (which they have been), they have > been left > alone and pretty much ignored by the legislature. They > don't have a long history of major accomplishments. > > Direct your anger at your state legislature. > > > On 2/02/16, explorer wrote: >> Well- that's good info to know..but I also see they are >> fighting hard to retain our state benefits. It looks >> like if someone doesn't fight our health care is going >> down the toilet. NCAE seems powerless and ineffective. I >> like the SEANC agenda regarding our benefits. Glad they >> indicted the former director - can't fault the whole >> organization just for his behavior. We as teachers get >> that treatment all the time. I surely don't want to >> return it. Just exploring...not sure - reading and >> listening. I just know someone has to go to bat for our >> future as state employees. >> >> On 2/01/16, clc wrote: >>> The former executive director of the SEANC was charged >>> in 2015 with spending almost half a million dollars of >>> SEANC funds for personal use. I'm not sure if the trial >>> has happened yet. >>> >>> SEANC was angry with NCAE for a number of years because >>> NCAE's teacher members were receiving raises while >>> other state employees were being ignored. It was a >>> legitimate grievance. SEANC played ball with the >>> General Assembly when the NCAE was being critical of >>> them. THE GA punished NCAE for their criticism by >>> forbidding the automatic withdrawal of NCAE dues from >>> teacher paychecks. SEANC members (non teacher state >>> employees),however, could still have their dues >>> automatically taken from their paychecks. The GA also >>> offered professional liability insurance to NC teachers >>> since NCAE had provided that as a benefit of joining. >>> >>> This was a pretty successful attempt by the GA to break >>> the back of the closest thing NC had to a pro-teacher >>> lobby. In effect, your Republican legislators did their >>> version of union busting-although of course there are >>> no public unions in NC by law. SEANC stood by and >>> watched and hoped the GA would throw them some bones. >>> >>> I don't know if SEANC has teacher members. They'll >>> probably take your money. >>> >>> On 2/01/16, explorer wrote: >>>> Can teachers join SEANC? Are any of you members. I >>>> have no interest in NCAE. Their dues are high and `I >>>> can't see a thing they have done for us. I heard >>>> legislators are more willing to work with SEANC. Do >>>> they let teachers join? I really don't see anything >>>> clear about that on their website. Do you belong?
NC Superintendent Seeking 10 Percent Salary Raise For Teachers By Jeff Tiberii • Jan 27, 2016 June Atkinson is the North Carolina Superintendent of Public Instruction.
State Superintendent June Atkinson is asking lawmakers to consider a 10 percent raise for teachers across the board. Atkinson delivered her proposals to a group of lawmakers Wednesday.
She asked them to consider teacher raises, bonuses for instructors in leadership roles and more money when students exceed growth expectations.
The state superintendent wants legislators to consider an across the board 10-percent raise for teachers. Jeff Tiberii reports from Raleigh.
"I believe that North Carolina needs to be bold. And we are grateful that our economy is becoming better, that the General Assembly has more money with which to deal, perhaps," Atkinson said.
Increasing teacher salaries by that figure would cost about $580 million. Following her presentation, some lawmakers expressed concern about the overall cost, while others asked about the practicality of implementing changes to the compensation system.
In an interview, Atkinson called on a layered approached to better compensation. In addition to across the board pay increases, Atkinson recommends more money for teachers in leadership roles, paying teachers to go to low performing schools, and bonus pay.
I know the district doesn't have to have them to us until early Feb. but we usually have ours electronically by now and it's not there. Anyone have theirs yet?
On 1/28/16, deadline wrote: > The law says you have to get it by January 31. > > On 1/27/16, Staying positive wrote: >> Thanks, guys. Good to know some have received them. I'm >> not worried but had hoped to get it in before the >> deadline for > this >> round of refunds. Last year I got it by January 16th. >> Still > not >> there today. Oh, well. :) >> >> >> On 1/27/16, catmeows wrote: >>> On 1/26/16, Steve wrote: >>>> On 1/26/16, Staying positive wrote: >>>>> I know the district doesn't have to have them to us >>>>> until early Feb. but we usually have ours >>>>> electronically by now and it's not there. Anyone have >>>>> theirs yet? >>>> >>>> Got mine yesterday.... Union county. >>> >>> Yes, got mine in the middle of the month. It says I >>> earned a lot more money than I know I did. ;-)
Agree 100&37; with A.
Also, special ed teachers might be 5&37; or 10&37; of the teachers in a high school, but reliably make up 25&37; of the admin.
If you have a special ed background, you will almost certainly get hired as an admin as soon as you are qualified.
The good news from my...See More