LucyThe ultimate plight is the lack of parent involvement. We are here to teach your children academics. While I understand that ultimately we are role models and should model the behavior of a good citizen, please, teach them something about it at home!!!
On 6/10/11, pb wrote: > Rachel: > Congratulations to you. You must be at a school where you are > appreciated. > I do not mean to sound like I'm a nagging complainer, but you guys > and gals in Jersey, DO have it better than the teachers here(FL). I > understand that situations for teachers across the country are tough, > and seem to be getting tougher each year. > I truly feel badly for teachers everywhere. It's enough to deal with > children who have learning disabilities and/or behavior issues, and > their parents. When politicians and school administrators add to > those problems, the life of a teacher can become a living hell. > Once again, best wishes this coming school year. > > > On 6/09/11, Rachel wrote: >> Perhaps I had extremely good luck, but I interviewed for a long term >> sub position, fulfilled the position, and was asked to return this >> year. I will be finishing my first full year of teaching, and I am >> extremely happy. I knew no one in the district in which I work. I >> had NO connections. My advice is: do whatever you have to do. Sub >> without being disgruntled or bitter. People pick up on attitude, so >> if you seem bitter or frustrated, everyone will know. I have worked >> in the private sector and have found it to be an unfulfilling rat >> race. I truly believe that teachers complain way too much. Be >> grateful for what you have because there are many who have it a lot >> worse.
To give you s...See MoreMy husband are are (were) teachers in FL. PB is right on. Things here are so bad now we have just got to get out. (and we just moved back to FL last summer!) My husband grew up in NJ and wants us to move north.
I worked with a teacher who left FL and now has a job in NJ. Many of my former co-workers moved to Georgia.
To give you some perspective: in FL, family health insurance (a terrible plan by the way in our district) would cost us $800 a month. (that does not include dental, vision, or short/long term disability - those are extras if we want them)
Teachers are abused by Principals here and now you will be on annual contract forever! (the entire first year is "probation" now as well) NO tenure ever again. They took away the COLA for the pension, so you'll get a $20,000 pension in year one and you'll still be getting $20,000 twenty years from then (anyone call see that your purchasing power will be nada with any kind of inflation by that time)
Salaries are lower than Mississippi now. Your job automatically ends every June. That's what happened to my husband - we moved back and he had to start back on annual contract. His contract was not renewed because they had to place a tenured teacher into his job in June. He's had 3 interviews this summer, but there are so many teachers fighting for the same scraps now.
I'm ready to go back to my former career in human resources, but the pay is now lower than what I made back in 2001 for the same job!
In any case, we have to get out of FL. Things are just terrible all around down here. There were 2 home-invasions in our little neighborhood. A middle schooler set his girlfriend on fire. A high schooler body-slammed his teacher and then raped a girl on the bus. An illegal ran over and killed a boy at his bus stop. I could go ON and ON like this.
SO we WILL get back to a land with civility and the 4 seasons, one way or another.
On 6/14/11, Rachel wrote: > PB: > I should have made myself more clear. Since I do not have enough > information about teaching in other states, I cannot comment on that. I > meant that teachers in NJ complain too much. It is much better pay wise > in this state, but it should be. We certainly have a higher cost of > living than FL. However, all teachers should be treated with respect and > dignity as we do have the most difficult job in this country. Best of > luck to you. > > On 6/10/11, pb wrote: >> Rachel: >> Congratulations to you. You must be at a school where you are >> appreciated. >> I do not mean to sound like I'm a nagging complainer, but you guys >> and gals in Jersey, DO have it better than the teachers here(FL). I >> understand that situations for teachers across the country are tough, >> and seem to be getting tougher each year. >> I truly feel badly for teachers everywhere. It's enough to deal with >> children who have learning disabilities and/or behavior issues, and >> their parents. When politicians and school administrators add to >> those problems, the life of a teacher can become a living hell. >> Once again, best wishes this coming school year. >> >> >> On 6/09/11, Rachel wrote: >>> Perhaps I had extremely good luck, but I interviewed for a long term >>> sub position, fulfilled the position, and was asked to return this >>> year. I will be finishing my first full year of teaching, and I am >>> extremely happy. I knew no one in the district in which I work. I >>> had NO connections. My advice is: do whatever you have to do. Sub >>> without being disgruntled or bitter. People pick up on attitude, so >>> if you seem bitter or frustrated, everyone will know. I have worked >>> in the private sector and have found it to be an unfulfilling rat >>> race. I truly believe that teachers complain way too much. Be >>> grateful for what you have because there are many who have it a lot >>> worse.
when filling out the 100 hours form, how are formal graduate courses listed? For instance, I took about 15 credits last year. How many hours is that, or is it okay to just put "15 credits"? Also, how do I find out the provider number? Thanks for any help.
On 6/16/11, Thnx sneakjinx. sure wish I hadn't waited till last min. wrote: > On 6/16/11, sneakjinx wrote: >> First, you no longer need provider numbers, so don't worry >> about that. As far as the form goes, I believe each district >> has their own form. At least, every district I've been in (3 >> in NJ) has done it differently. You will need to convert >> credits to hours though because you get more than 1 hour per >> credit. I believe there's a standard value but I do not >> what it it is (15 hours for a 3 credit class comes to mind, >> but I could be completely wrong on that!) . I would ask an >> administrator or someone who has take grad classes from your >> district. >> >> >> On 6/16/11, gina wrote: >>> when filling out the 100 hours form, how are formal >>> graduate courses listed? For instance, I took about 15 >>> credits last year. How many hours is that, or is it okay >>> to just put "15 credits"? Also, how do I find out the >>> provider number? Thanks for any help.
I...See MoreOK, so I am 50, and have a few years of teaching experience, no tenure, and just got RIF'd. I JUST finished my M.Ed, and am sad to say that I think I need to cut my losses and go back to corporate. I used to be an executive assistant and I don't want to do that anymore.
so, if you were to leave the profession, what would you do?
I have some ideas but I thought maybe all you helpful folks here may be able to see more clearly than I can. I am so sad to leave this profession, but I need to find something little more stable (even tho there really is no such thing in this economy).
So far my teaching experience has sucked. There is no professionalism in the field and teachers are treated like second rate citizens.
The thing is I love working with the kids. I really felt I was making a difference and was a positive influence on them both academically and personally. It's the administrators that are the problem, most are egomaniacs, and have no balls to stand up to students and their parents.
I will give teaching another try, but if it doesn't work out, I'm going into business for myself. I don't like the corporate world anymore, it has changed considerably since when I started, too much greed, no loyalty.
On 6/19/11, throwing in the towel wrote: > OK, so I am 50, and have a few years of teaching experience, > no tenure, and just got RIF'd. I JUST finished my M.Ed, > and am sad to say that I think I need to cut my losses and > go back to corporate. I used to be an executive assistant > and I don't want to do that anymore. > > so, if you were to leave the profession, what would you do? > > I have some ideas but I thought maybe all you helpful folks > here may be able to see more clearly than I can. I am so > sad to leave this profession, but I need to find something > little more stable (even tho there really is no such thing > in this economy). > > Thanks...
it didn't slip by ...there's very little they can do to eliminate benefits except get rid of COLAs because the pensions are legally considered deferred payment.
And even the COLAs are included in this so they can't "get rid" of the COLAs. They didn't do this...they simply said postponed paying them until the fund is 80% funded. That could take 30+ years ...or never.
And yes there are legal actions being taken but that could take 5 years or more to settle. Most likely it will settle in favor or the retirees but that still might do any good. Legal fees will eat up quite a bit and the NJ fund is still in big trouble. The 5 years of accumulated COLA payments could eat up most of the fund.
I'm not in NJ but have been following your state closely because it will probably set the precedence for other states with public pension problems (and there are LOTS). Christi has already said other states have privately called him about how to do similar actions in their states.
One of the big problems with the NJ fund is all the skipped payments by the state. And the unions kept getting what they were asking for so minimal fuss was put up. NO ONE asked what was going to happen years down the line to the retirees when the money ran out. It's very difficult...well impossible...to play catch up on what should have been put in.
In my particular case....and I just retired...I'm not counting on my pension. I'm desperately trying to start a new career. I would like to basically bank my pension and build my private savings. If my pension holds then it's a fabulous plus and I'll spend away later in life. But if it doesn't then I can't afford to find out in my 80s.
The stuff you'll read on what has gone on with our pensions will make you beyond enraged but the bottom line is if the money isn't there ...it's not there. So better to have a backup plan in place and fight like hell for what's rightfully yours in the meantime.
My family really enjoys Ocean City because it's a true family resort with a great boardwalk and a nice beach. They let you ride bikes or use a surrey on the boardwalk early in the morning. The nighttime rides are good for children. If your rental is near the boardwalk--which happens to be really long, you can walk to the rides and restaurants. We do.
We've also vacationed in Brigantine, Avalon, Long Beach Island and Cape May.
Cape May is lovely with large Victorian homes/hotels. It's a quiet, classy town where you can enjoy nice walks. If you would rather stay in a hotel instead of a B and B or rental house, the Grand Hotel is nice, but kind of expensive in season. Be sure to take a trip to the Cape May Zoo if you haven't already been there.
Brigantine is lovely but there might not be enough for a family to do besides the beach activities.
Remember that Ocean City and Avalon are near Atlantic City but I would never consider renting in AC. Good luck in choosing a resort town. You'll definitely enjoy your NJ shore vacation. FYI, you have to pay for beach tags but the cost isn't bad.
Need help: teacher contract states that teacher will give sixty days notice for resigning. It doesn't say what happens if you don't give the sixty days notice. Does anyone know what the consequences would be of giving less than the sixty days notice? Thanks
On 7/16/11, birdmomma wrote: > > Need help: teacher contract states that teacher will give > sixty days notice for resigning. It doesn't say what > happens if you don't give the sixty days notice. Does > anyone know what the consequences would be of giving less > than the sixty days notice? Thanks
Depends on your administration....See Morebr> >> Need help: teacher contract states that teacher will give >> sixty days notice for resigning. It doesn't say what >> happens if you don't give the sixty days notice. Does >> anyone know what the consequences would be of giving less >> than the sixty days notice? Thanks
Depends on your administration. A teacher in my school left mid year with 2 weeks notice. The administrator had her certification pulled.
Teaching is my passion and life's path. I just need a venue! I have a Master's in Curriculum and Instruction, a NJ certification and experience. Right now, my focus is elementary education, but I am flexible. What kinds of teachers are needed the most in NJ? I welcome all comments, suggestions and advice. Thank you!
It's tough out there. I know dozens of elementary ed teachers who have never gotten their first job.
I don't know why the colleges keep cranking them out.
I started out in elementary ed and couldn't get a job, so I switched to high school. Teaching the little kids is so much more rewarding, but everyone knows that and EVERYONE wants those jobs. You can sub, but all the teachers who never got jobs do that too.
I think you have to face the fact that getting an elementary ed job is like winning the lottery. Getting certified as a special ed teacher used to help, but now there are thousands of those. Same thing for getting certified in Ortan-Gillingham.
You have two choices - 1) do what you're doing and accept the fact that getting an elem. ed job is like winning the lottery. It's probably not going to happen.
2) Take out more loans and go back to school to get certified in something for middle school or high school - just NOT social studies and probably not English unless you combine it with special ed. and reading.
These jobs are also hard to come by, and there's a lot of unemployment out there, but it's possible. The area that is most needed is science.
I know this isn't the advice you want to hear, but it's the truth.